The D. Hall incident

[over the mountain]

i'm bored at work so i replayed this thing a few times, breaking it down. no. 51 on teh falcons is talking ish and/or grabbing at landry for the late hit. hall comes over and brushes/knocks no. 51's hands off landry, landry walks away, falcons strength coach snatches hall up, hall gets circled, shit pops off.

go skins!!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

i'm bored at work so i replayed this thing a few times, breaking it down. no. 51 on teh falcons is talking ish and/or grabbing at landry for the late hit. hall comes over and brushes/knocks no. 51's hands off landry, landry walks away, falcons strength coach snatches hall up, hall gets circled, shit pops off.

go skins!!

Landry should thank Hall for getting him out of there and for getting the heat off him regarding that personal foul.

[firstdown]

Not sure if its been post but the NFL is looking into this today.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Not sure if its been post but the NFL is looking into this today.

Yup, they are...

NFL will look into altercation in Falcons-Redskins game

[DynamiteRave]

Coaches getting involved in an altercation with players is the ultimate fail. And it wasn't like Smith was trying to break it up, only make it worse. Can coaches get fined for that sort of thing?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Coaches getting involved in an altercation with players is the ultimate fail. And it wasn't like Smith was trying to break it up, only make it worse. Can coaches get fined for that sort of thing?

That's probably going to be the only punishment, I doubt the league will hand out any other punishment.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Coaches getting involved in an altercation with players is the ultimate fail. And it wasn't like Smith was trying to break it up, only make it worse. Can coaches get fined for that sort of thing?

Think of it this way, if DeAngelo Hall had not been there none of this would have happened. Two wrongs do not make a right, there's no way Hall can be absolved of complete responsibility because he was someplace doing something he had absolutely no business doing or being.

One of our players had just hit thier QB out of bounds on their sideline. It's a normal reaction in the NFL for both players and coaches to come to the rescue of their player in such circumstances, espically when the the play resulted in a PF being called by the side judge.

BL, Hall was where he should not have been, all that happens after that is on him. He has a fabulous defense however, it was someone elses' fault that he was WRONG, just blame it on the Falcon's coaches, they did it.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Think of it this way, if DeAngelo Hall had not been there none of this would have happened. Two wrongs do not a right, there's no way Hall can be absolved of complete responsibility because he was someplace doing something he had absolutely no business doing or being.

One of our players had just hit thier QB out of bounds on their sideline. It's a normal reaction in the NFL for both players and coaches to come to the rescure of their player in such circumstances, espically when the the play resulted in a PF being called by the side judge.

BL, Hall was where he should not have been, all that happens after that is on him. He has a fabulous defense however, it was someone elses' fault that he was WRONG, just blame it on the Falcon's coaches, they did it.

I get what you're saying I don't think D.Hall was right for what he did but I understand why he got riled up.

Because its kinda like if your ex-gf walked up to you and punched you in the junk. If I did that to a guy I wouldn't expect him to just sit there and take it.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So how come you're not complaining about Haynesworth walking over and joining the altercation?

And you're so full of it...watch the tape again Hall got Landry out of there, that's why "Landry walked away". Hall was running towards both Landry and Ryan, and you clearly see the ATL sideline get on Landry.

I don't have a problem with Haynesworth coming over to play enforcer. The damage was already done. But fine..we'll just agree to disagree.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't have a problem with Haynesworth coming over to play enforcer. The damage was already done. But fine..we'll just agree to disagree.

Given the reaction of the ATL sideline, either Landry would have gotten in an altercation with them or Hall. Either way the damage was done by Landry's late hit and the ATL's sideline response to the hit.

Although I actually think what Haynesworth did was helpful (he shoved half of the ATL sideline away from the Redskins player) he still got called for a PF.

In the end, this shouldn't have happened if Landry had not done something that has been a problem in his discipline since he was a rook. What is upsetting is that fans like you have such biased opinion against Hall, that it takes away from the bigger picture of this situation. The league should punish both Hall and Smith, and the Redskins defensive coaching staff need to get on Landry's ass about the late hit.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Think of it this way, if DeAngelo Hall had not been there none of this would have happened. Two wrongs do not a right, there's no way Hall can be absolved of complete responsibility because he was someplace doing something he had absolutely no business doing or being.

One of our players had just hit thier QB out of bounds on their sideline. It's a normal reaction in the NFL for both players and coaches to come to the rescure of their player in such circumstances, espically when the the play resulted in a PF being called by the side judge.

BL, Hall was where he should not have been, all that happens after that is on him. He has a fabulous defense however, it was someone elses' fault that he was WRONG, just blame it on the Falcon's coaches, they did it.

You're right, but then you might as well say 'if Deangelo Hall simply stood on the other side of the field and watched...'

When I watched the replay last night I saw Hall come in during the end of the play on the sideline, i.e. he was pursuing the ball. He was already on the sideline when Landry hit Ryan (which btw, wasn't as late as it looked). Did he need to take a couple steps over to where Landry was? Probably not, and who knows what he said.

I don't want to take up for Hall, the dude has always been a problem, but in this case, the coaches coming over to get involved is just a bit much. They deserve a slap on the wrist if nothing else.

[SolidSnake84]

latest word says that the falcons coach is indeed going to be disciplined. Video shows him directly putting hands on Hall. If coaches put their hands on a player like that, angrily or attempt to hurt, i think they should be fired.....

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Given the reaction of the ATL sideline, either Landry would have gotten in an altercation with them or Hall. Either way the damage was done by Landry's late hit and the ATL's sideline response to the hit.

Although I actually think what Haynesworth did was helpful (he shoved half of the ATL sideline away from the Redskins player) he still got called for a PF.

In the end, this shouldn't have happened if Landry had not done something that has been a problem in his discipline since he was a rook. What is upsetting is that fans like you have such biased opinion against Hall, that it takes away from the bigger picture of this situation. The league should punish both Hall and Smith, and the Redskins defensive coaching staff need to get on Landry's ass about the late hit.

You're damn right I do. And he's given me every reason to be biased against him because of the things he's done since he's been here. Talk shit about the FO and your teammates, then tackle like a bitch and I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt. He still needs to get his jock strap from the Jake Delhomme play. lol.

[GTripp0012]

The only thing that changed for me after this event was my level of respect for Mike Smith. You expect this kind of crap from Hall, if you've been paying attention. Now I expect this kind of behavior from Mike Smith as well.

The event was not just one persons fault, and shame on anyone who is trying to pin it on one party. It takes multiple douchebags to have an altercation as such, and they just happened to meet by chance on the Falcons sideline.

Nothing really terrible happened, and Hall has handled it properly post-game.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You're damn right I do. And he's given me every reason to be biased against him because of the things he's done since he's been here. Talk shit about the FO and your teammates, then tackle like a bitch and I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt. He still needs to get his jock strap from the Jake Delhomme play. lol.

I've watched the guy since he came into the league, he has played with 3 different teams and it's the same old story. When will people wake up? Maybe after he's done all 32 teams? By the way the altercation started when he was jawing with 2 Falcons on the sideline and then he got dragged in. Who knows what he said?