It was just ONE game.. only 3 losses can go 13-3.. they were due this win!!!!!!

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

He was saying that Colt was a system QB and he knows about system QBs because he went to Texas Tech, not that Colt went to Texas Tech.

Oh, hahaha.. sorry

[warpaint]

Texanskin thanks for that. It has been real to swallow that lose sunday , but it is so hard right now to look at the positives. As you always hear you have to take it one game at a time. Painful as it looks right now I still think we can turn this thing around. You are right we have to give Zorn atleast 3 years.

I to live in Texas and I got to stay positive because. I'm neck deep with cowturds and it is starting to smell with this constent flow of cowshit around me. So I say screw it, Hail To The Redskins, win or lose I'd rather be skins fan right now because when we do have that winning season it will be oooh that much sweeter.

[skins89moss]

Great Post Texanskin

I think your right about letting Zorn try to fix this mess. Zorn has been here less than 2 seasons so its not his entire fault that we have a teribble O-Line. I wonder what Joe Bugle has to say about us not drafting O-Lineman since he returned for Gibbs II. Oh lets count Rhinehart (3rd pick). Losing sucks but we need to learn that to be a winner you have to have patients with a new coaching staff. Zorn should not get fired unless he loses the locker room and the players mail it in. Like you said replacing Zorn dosen't mean we will be a winning team, we have to learn how to win again. If the players truly like and repect Zorn they will play their hearts out for him.

[Skinny Tee]

Current poll being run on Redskins.com

Can you even read the last one without cracking a smile?

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Who is the team to beat in the NFC right now?
Atlanta Falcons 1% (14)
Chicago Bears 0% (5)
Minnesota Vikings 19% (453)
New Orleans Saints 19% (435)
New York Giants 50% (1157)
Philadelphia Eagles 2% (50)
I still say the Redskins 9% (215)

Total participants: 2329
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[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Texanskin

Ok fans......when you call for the coaches head in his 2nd year, in the middle of the season ...this is the SAME AS how our front office looks to "change" things quickly instead of allowing things to mature....but yet everyone calls for Vinny to be fired. We as Redskins fans have become so familiar with chaos that we actually LOOK to blow things up just to make us believe things will be different when THEY WONT if WE still have the same mentality.

2) Our stupid Front office thinks bringing in a new head coach every few years will solve the problems of having a well paid roster full of talent with no structure from the top. Every team you know that is succesful has One Goal from the top to the bottom and dont mind waiting it out for things to develop. If you noticed... Marvin Lewis had his head on a platter by the "media" and not so much by the fans (some did though)...but look at them now....patience is the key with a head coach. Our front office looks at young coaches from ATL or Denver or the Jets and say.... why cant we have instant success????...well...those org have structure....ours doesnt.(like bringing an "extra set of eyes" without telling the head coach...
****but we as fans....DO THE SAME THING!!!!! we are screaming loud for a new coach in THE MIDDLE OF THE SEASON!!!!

We hear this a lot. People complaining about changing coaches so often that there's never any continuity.

But if continuity is what we should be after, then Jim Zorn should never have been hired as offensive coordinator and Al Saunders' system should have been left in place, with Gregg Williams as head coach. That would have been an example of continuity. Instead, they completely change the offensive system of a playoff team in 2007 and implement a new system that everyone says takes two full years to learn.

I've said it before -- the deterioration of this roster isn't Jim Zorn's fault. But right now he's lost, his game plan, in-game adjustments and scheming isn't very impressive. It was an experiment that has clearly failed -- and things aren't going to get any better. I don't like mid-season firings, but if things really start to spiral out of control, he has to go.

[SBXVII]

TexanSkin, do me a favour....tell that story to Atlanta, Baltimore and Miami ....you know the three teams that started fresh and went to the play offs. ....and....you might as well tell Detroit and the Jets this yr. I know that Detroit is not special but they kicked our butts. The Jets however are looking pretty good.

So please go sell them the whole 3-4 yr growth deal and allow us to be pissed off. Than You.

[SmootSmack]

Texanskin, nice post and I largely agree with your point. I've often said one of Snyder's biggest weakness is he still thinks he's that high school kid from Maryland who grew up a fan of the team so he acts irrationally. But he can't do that anymore as the owner of the team. We fans can act well "fanatically" but we expect ownership to act prudently...all that said though and as much as we all should preach patience sometimes you just have to realize when something isn't working. And right now things just aren't working.

[Texanskin]

I really appreciate the repsonses...I have been feelin like that for awhile. Again...if you want to look at 1st year coaches that turn things around as the standard..go ahead..I won't. That is not the rule but exception in those cases. What happenes if we change coaches and it looks the same way in 1 ½ years...we change again b/c it looks like its not workin??? The more money we pay a big name coach = the faster we will be disappointed cuz things didn't happen fast enough.

[warpaint]

I going to put this out there. Do you think if we were Playing Dallas that could be a game that would first of all get our attention, nothing like a big division game to set the mood. We need to play a team that can get us hyped instead of this current winless tour. It hasn't been good for our spirit, this winless tour is killing our resolve. We need a division game stat.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by warpaint

I going to put this out there. Do you think if we were Playing Dallas that could be a game that would first of all get our attention, nothing like a big division game to set the mood. We need to play a team that can get us hyped instead of this current winless tour. It hasn't been good for our spirit, this winless tour is killing our resolve. We need a division game stat.

The Skins are who we thought they were...they're not getting off the hook!


There's no magic elixir that is going to transform this team into dynamos. In the spirit of Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes..."If you don't know them by now, you'll never know them....ooooooooOOOOOOeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwooooooooo"

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

LOL! If Gibbs was still here, I would still believe things could turn around. But this year, nah. Even I can't be that optimistic.

If Gibbs were here, we'd be 4-1 at the worst.

[DAVID]

4-12. bottom line. I have been saying that for years

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by skinny tee

the skins are who we thought they were...they're not getting off the hook!


There's no magic elixir that is going to transform this team into dynamos. In the spirit of harold melvin and the blue notes..."if you don't know them by now, you'll never know them....ooooooooooooooeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwooooooooo"

Im blind with hope Ill admit.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by DAVID

4-12. bottom line. I have been saying that for years

you've been saying 4-12 for the 2009 Skins for years? Are you nostrodamus?
When will the world end? Seriously?
When will be the next disaster and what will it be?
Best of all...why in the world would you predict 4-12 for YEARS? Cause either you meant this year, which is pretty dumb to predict 4-12 for this year YEARS AGO, or you gave predicted 4-12 every year for years, which would make you dead wrong for years. Either way, you're wrong.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by DAVID

4-12. bottom line. I have been saying that for years

You've been wrong most of them.