Do you expect Zorn to be fired

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

thanks smoot, so you were there? i knew you had connections, but i didnt think you were a member of the press.

Well I'm a member of the media, but not on the press side (not anymore at least).

But anyway, no I wasn't there. But when I watch the press conference on television I watch it through a "raw feed" so basically I can hear and see what's going on at the press conference before and after what you see on tv and online.

[REDSKINS1980]

Don't be surprised if Zorn is fired after the Kansas City Game, I feel that Snyder will not want to be embarrassed any further by getting demolished at home against the Philadelphia Eagles.

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

Well, I'm going to the KC game so it's a lock that win that one. Maybe he gets fired anyway.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS1980

Don't be surprised if Zorn is fired after the Kansas City Game, I feel that Snyder will not want to be embarrassed any further by getting demolished at home against the Philadelphia Eagles.

The bye makes sense only because it gives the team some extra time to put a new guy in place. It won't happen after the KC game.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There are some things that are Zorn's fault though. Case in point...calling timeout on 4th down and justifying it by saying "well we weren't sure where they were going to spot it. Would it be 4th and 2, 4th and 5, 4th and 7." That's weak. Even if the spot is questionable, it's never a matter of 5 yards. That's ridiculous

The other part of this, is it makes me never has 2 plays called. If he can't give JC a play if it's less than 2, and a play if it's more than 2 than that's a huge fail anyways. I think that's why Campbell did better when he is running the 2 minuted drill, he was calling on his own and prepping the huddle based on what might happen.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well I'm a member of the media.....<SNIP>

I *KNEW* it! SS is Illuminati/lizard/grey!

[DynamiteRave]

The way I feel about Zorn is this: After the loss yesterday I saw one thing I thought I'd never see a coach do; hang his head. Right out on the sidelines with the last few seconds ticking away. NOT good. Simply put, it was a man defeated. It looked like all his will and hope got sucked out of him while each second ticked away. Then he went into the press conference and B.Mitch put it best... And I know most people want Mitch's head on a stake around here, but he said that every time Zorn goes to the press conference he goes to answer the questions of the press. So what does he do? He answers the questions. So. It's not that Zorn is doing the wrong thing, as B.Mitch put it, he's doing his job. But it feels like he's just going through the motions. I feel like Zorn is doing what he does, because he has to do it. I'll say it, I don't think he has the love of HCing or the passion to do it. I feel like he's coaching because that's what they paid him to do so... He's gonna do it. There's no personality to him. And you don't have to be boisterous and throwing chairs angry, but you gotta have some sort of... Oomph to you. Zorn doesn't have that. I can't remember the last time he did have that. That "Hip hip hooray" moment last year? Gibbs had it almost all the time. I don't ever think I ever saw Gibbs hang his head, at least not in front of the cameras. Hanging your head means you've given up on not only yourself, but your players. Players hang their head after the game but your coach is supposed to be your rallying cry, the one who won't let you hang your head even if your loss was incredibly embarrassing. When your coach is out there hanging their head with you? Something is extremely wrong.

Overall Zorn is in way over his head and someone needs to start hitting the brakes (or at least consider it) on this runaway train before we crash. Maybe Zorn has the potential to be a good HC someday, but IMO I think he's lacking some of the core of HC fundamentals (other ones that I didn't talk about but I'm sure you can throw a few out there).

[REDSKINS1980]

well said

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Since there weren't any "Hell No" or "God I Hope Not" options, I had to just go with "No".

[KLHJ2]

Jim Zorn is only 1 game back from .500. There are still 11 games left this season. There is still time to turn around. There is no need for a knee jerk reaction and fire him at anytime during the season. Just let him finish it out and have a chance to right the ship (since everybody want to compare a football team to a boat these days). It can't get any worse and if nothing else an experience like this will build some character. In Jim Zorn’s defense he has the hardest job in the NFL and he hasn't thrown the towel in like some other NFL head coach who couldn't even make it through one season in Atlanta. The man is fighting his guts out but he is stuck in quicksand. Let him finish the job that he is getting paid to do.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

The way I feel about Zorn is this: After the loss yesterday I saw one thing I thought I'd never see a coach do; hang his head. Right out on the sidelines with the last few seconds ticking away. NOT good. Simply put, it was a man defeated. It looked like all his will and hope got sucked out of him while each second ticked away. Then he went into the press conference and B.Mitch put it best... And I know most people want Mitch's head on a stake around here, but he said that every time Zorn goes to the press conference he goes to answer the questions of the press. So what does he do? He answers the questions. So. It's not that Zorn is doing the wrong thing, as B.Mitch put it, he's doing his job. But it feels like he's just going through the motions. I feel like Zorn is doing what he does, because he has to do it. I'll say it, I don't think he has the love of HCing or the passion to do it. I feel like he's coaching because that's what they paid him to do so... He's gonna do it. There's no personality to him. And you don't have to be boisterous and throwing chairs angry, but you gotta have some sort of... Oomph to you. Zorn doesn't have that. I can't remember the last time he did have that. That "Hip hip hooray" moment last year? Gibbs had it almost all the time. I don't ever think I ever saw Gibbs hang his head, at least not in front of the cameras. Hanging your head means you've given up on not only yourself, but your players. Players hang their head after the game but your coach is supposed to be your rallying cry, the one who won't let you hang your head even if your loss was incredibly embarrassing. When your coach is out there hanging their head with you? Something is extremely wrong.

Overall Zorn is in way over his head and someone needs to start hitting the brakes (or at least consider it) on this runaway train before we crash. Maybe Zorn has the potential to be a good HC someday, but IMO I think he's lacking some of the core of HC fundamentals (other ones that I didn't talk about but I'm sure you can throw a few out there).

Wow. Did not see the game (only painful highlights) or the post-game conference, but this is sad.

You're right though.

[REDSKINS1980]

wow, you must be the only surviving Zorn supporter on here. Yes one game from .500. This year the skins were given a gift with the cupcake schedule. Easily could have gone 5-1. The schedule will not get any easier.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Angry

Jim Zorn is only 1 game back from .500. There are still 11 games left this season. There is still time to turn around. There is no need for a knee jerk reaction and fire him at anytime during the season. Just let him finish it out and have a chance to right the ship (since everybody want to compare a football team to a boat these days). It can't get any worse and if nothing else an experience like this will build some character. In Jim Zorn’s defense he has the hardest job in the NFL and he hasn't thrown the towel in like some other NFL head coach who couldn't even make it through one season in Atlanta. The man is fighting his guts out but he is stuck in quicksand. Let him finish the job that he is getting paid to do.

If the team was a ship: The Captain would be counter flooding to stop the listing from the three fish that already went in. He knows that there's not much he can do, the boilers are out. The best seaman are exhausted from trying to put out the fires and reinforcing bulk-heads.

The owners of the ship are baffled. In their eyes the good ship lollipop had good enough armour (1 inch) to stop torpedos and a great AA battery. Radar/Sonar, bah, that's witch craft!

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS1980

wow, you must be the only surviving Zorn supporter on here. Yes one game from .500. This year the skins were given a gift with the cupcake schedule. Easily could have gone 5-1. The schedule will not get any easier.

That's what is scary.

[Hog1]

I just heard a......shocking stat. Yesterday was the first time in 10 F..N GAMES that we scored a first qtr TD..........
unbelievable