Campbell's numbers dont lie

[CultBrennan59]

Gregg Williams, Rex Ryan have mental battle in Saints-Jets - Peter King - SI.com

i agree with everything peter king says in here about the redskins

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Have you been watched them play? Sanchez is the real deal. Cutler is the real deal. Campbell got the vast majority of his yards in and both of his TDs when opposing defenses were holding on to a lead and playing prevent. Rodney Harrison called Campbell out for what he is - a backup QB who no one is afraid of. He's certainly the best QB on our roster now, but come 2010, he won't be a starter for this team or any other in the NFL.

He will be a starter for another team. You can put money on that. If you go look at the free agent QBs for next year. He is by far the best out of all of them. Lets see..

NFL Free Agents: 2010 NFL Free Agents

* People may say Orton is better. He does look better in the Denver system. So maybe Campbell does need a change of venue. It worked for Orton who was horrible with Chicago. So if he does leave who do we pick up?

College:

Top 3 prospects:

Sam Bradford: Prototype NFL QB skills. SHoudl ahve came out last year. NOw he has injured his throwing shoulder and it seems to be worse thatn what was intially expected.

Tebow: A great leader. Athletic. But I dont think his athleticsm is going transfer to the NFL. He is not going to be running around like he did in college. I like the kid but either he is going to be a great pick or a great bust.

*Suffered a concussion

McCoy: Has taken a step back since last year. He hs 5 ints already and had only 8 last season. Will his athleticsm transfer to NFL. I would give Tebow the nod before him as far as athleticsm.

I dont even want to go past this. Because whomever we pick up, if we pick up someone in the draft, woudl have to be a sure shot. If not we will run him out of town also.

Unless we are going to make a trade with another team. Which would probably cost us a draft pick. Which we need for OLs and LBs. We also need to look for CP's future replacement.

Maybe picking up someone's back-up. Vick?

the options don't seem that great. Why do you think Vinny and DS were trying to grab someone so badly this offseason?

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

NFL Free Agents: 2010 NFL Free Agents

Looks like we can bring back Pat Ramsey. Yeah!

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

He will be a starter for another team. You can put money on that.

I'd be willing to put money on that! No way does he start for another team next year. He may still be our starter, but no one elses. You would lose your money sir. The people that are saying he's not starting material here on this site, just mirror what other GMs and apparently ex players are saying.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life

Please explain GTripp.

He had it earned last year at about midseason, then there were some doubts raised in the second half of the year about if he was regressing, and now he's proved that he's not.

I would extend him today, if I was in charge.

[dgack]

Harrison has Charles Barkley disease. A mic in your hand and success as a player doesn't mean the ego that's propelling your lips can suddenly turn conjecture into fact.

We can look at Shannon Sharpe as another fine example of this phenomenon.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

He had it earned last year at about midseason, then there were some doubts raised in the second half of the year about if he was regressing, and now he's proved that he's not.

I would extend him today, if I was in charge.

Why would you extend a QB when you have no idea who will be coaching your team and what offensive system you'll be running next year?

[dgack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

there were some doubts raised in the second half of the year about if he was regressing, and now he's proved that he's not.

Were it only so easy! "Proof" is so ... subjective. :vomit:

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

He had it earned last year at about midseason, then there were some doubts raised in the second half of the year about if he was regressing, and now he's proved that he's not.

I would extend him today, if I was in charge.

WOW...thank the good Lord you are not in charge. You'd give him an extension when he's 3 for his last 11, and because he played two of the worst teams in the NFL back tp back and lost to one of them? One of them that had lost 19 straight? What did Campbell do to win any game this year? NOTHING. We won despite of him during the Rams game...he was no where to be found in the Giants game, and he only came on at the end of the Lions game which people have already pointed out was against a weak prevent type defense.
Campbell will likely keep decent % numbers cause most of his passes are short, but he will always disappear when push comes to shove and we need him. His qb make up is weak and has no win at all costs attitude.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Why would you extend a QB when you have no idea who will be coaching your team and what offensive system you'll be running next year?

Good point -- why keep ANY continuity when you can just blow it all up and start over.

Every godforsaken year.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by dgack

Harrison has Charles Barkley disease. A mic in your hand and success as a player doesn't mean the ego that's propelling your lips can suddenly turn conjecture into fact.

We can look at Shannon Sharpe as another fine example of this phenomenon.

Barkley just randomly speaks, Harrison just has no filter, but usually he is right on.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I'll take a recent elite defensive player with a superbowl rings opinion over most others any day of the week.

I don't see how you can actually watch Cutler and Campbell play and think theyre equal. Theyre most certainly not. And Josh McDaniels, a guy who coached the best QB in the league, a guy who knows more about QBs than anyone here wanted Kyle Orton over Jason Campbell. If that's not damning for Campbell, then I dont know what is.

As to Sanchez, the Jets have far less talent on Offense than we do. That, combined with the fact that he's a rookie, makes his performance that more impressive. I'm impressed when i watch him and I respect Trent Diflers opinion on QBs and he's very high on Sanchez. In 5 years, or whenever Manning and Brady retire, Sanchez will be one of the top 3 QBs in the league. No, we were not in a position to draft him, but we should have tried harder to put ourselves in a position to be. Now we're gonna be stuck drafting one of the overrated QBs in the 2010 draft. On the bright side, atleast whoever we hire to replace Zorn will get to pick his own QB.

1. Since Harrison was part of a Super Bowl team, everything he says is correct? Now that's just poor critical thinking.

2. You are correct, I do not see Cutler and Campbell as equals, despite the fact that their stats are similar in many ways. Campbell is superior because he is not Captain Turnover like Cutler is.

3. What is the point of bringing up Cutler and Sanchez? Neither one of them will qb the Skins any time soon, if ever. It would be just as rewarding to discuss how Y.A. Tittle would do with the 2009 Skins.

4. You vastly underestimate the Jets offense.

5. Your sig has bugged me for some time because of its inaccuracy. Many studies have shown that dolphins do in fact "know what they are doing." They are quite intelligent and can recognize different shapes, different colors, and different verbal cues. They definitely know where the shore is and where open sea is because their food habits require such. Read the ethological literature about dolphins and you will realize that your sig advertises ignorance.

So, in sum, you have underestimated Campbell, the Jets offense, and dolphins. You have overestimated Rodney Harrison's insight. Good luck with all of that.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I'd be willing to put money on that! No way does he start for another team next year. He may still be our starter, but no one elses. You would lose your money sir. The people that are saying he's not starting material here on this site, just mirror what other GMs and apparently ex players are saying.

What GMs would these be? Not saying that some GMs haven't said that. But it seems like yoru just throwing that out there with out a name to back it. So tell me which GMs said that. Let's see. Would the Raiders possibly want him? Probably not. They got J. Russell..lol. NC. Naw they got Delhomme or maybe Feeley will be their starting QB. Jaguars..Naw they got Garrad. Tampa Bay..Naw they got Leftwich and 2 rookies. There are many possibilities. I haven't heard one analyst on NFL network ESPN or any other network say JC is garbage besides Harrison. The Dirty playing HGH user. JC is not a world beater but he is not what some people here make him out to be. IF he doesn't work. Who are we going to get to replace him. Maybe that's the question people should ask. Jason did well last year when he had a running game. Most QBs need a running game to be successful. He was 6-2 with a running game. When that went down hill. Everything else did as well. Actually I can't wait until he leave because the fans here treat him like shit. Maybe we should bring Shane Mathews Jeff George, Tony Banks or Danny Weurrfel back. Maybe We can get Heath Shuler to give up politics or bring back Gus Frerotte? In comparison to them does JC look that bad?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Why would you extend a QB when you have no idea who will be coaching your team and what offensive system you'll be running next year?

Good point. I'd have to think he's scheme adaptable. Given the evidence, I feel that applies.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by jsarno

WOW...thank the good Lord you are not in charge. You'd give him an extension when he's 3 for his last 11, and because he played two of the worst teams in the NFL back tp back and lost to one of them? One of them that had lost 19 straight? What did Campbell do to win any game this year? NOTHING. We won despite of him during the Rams game...he was no where to be found in the Giants game, and he only came on at the end of the Lions game which people have already pointed out was against a weak prevent type defense.
Campbell will likely keep decent % numbers cause most of his passes are short, but he will always disappear when push comes to shove and we need him. His qb make up is weak and has no win at all costs attitude.

Well, I also wouldn't have drafted Devin Thomas. Thank god for him, he's proved us doubters all wrong.