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Old 10-01-2009, 04:51 PM   #31
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who are you talking about?......JC?
Naw I'm talking about Drew Brees of course Jason. You don't agree ?
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Old 10-01-2009, 05:11 PM   #32
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The problem with Marty is that he arrived right after Norv Turner. Under Turner, there was no accountability and that's a big reason why we underachieved for years under him. Marty came along and said you know what, I don't care how much talent we have here, how many Hall of Famers are on the roster, we're going to work hard and be accountable. But then guys like Darrell Green and Bruce Smith said "Wait a minute, we've been to the Super Bowl and you haven't. We're future Hall of Famers wrapping up our careers. Don't tell us how to play the game."

I would love, love, love for Marty to come back. Love it
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How old is Marty?
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The problem with Marty is that he arrived right after Norv Turner. Under Turner, there was no accountability and that's a big reason why we underachieved for years under him. Marty came along and said you know what, I don't care how much talent we have here, how many Hall of Famers are on the roster, we're going to work hard and be accountable. But then guys like Darrell Green and Bruce Smith said "Wait a minute, we've been to the Super Bowl and you haven't. We're future Hall of Famers wrapping up our careers. Don't tell us how to play the game."

I would love, love, love for Marty to come back. Love it
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Old 10-01-2009, 05:31 PM   #36
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Re: Michael peels back the curtain at Redskins Park in interview with Wise

He also wants mike shanahan
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Old 10-01-2009, 05:34 PM   #37
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Fair enough, but my point was simply that, regardless of the real reason why Marty was fired, the fact is that Michael's comment on the matter sure seemed to place blame on Marty's ability to play well with others.
I always liked Marty going back to his Browns days. But there are a couple of negative undeniable truths about him:

1) Doesn't win big games even when it seems his team is more talented.
2) Has had relationship problems in his career, usually w/FO staff. In fact, that's why he isn't working now. So, Michael might just be giving a pretty objective opinion of him.

That said, he made great strides here & I thought he should've been given the chance to come back. He can build a winner, even if he hasn't won the big games, his teams win consistently.
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Old 10-01-2009, 06:58 PM   #39
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Re: Michael peels back the curtain at Redskins Park in interview with Wise

I feel good about us turning this thing around this year. It's barely week 4. My whole thing is V.Cerrato I dont know anything about him but for some reason he is the only one who hasnt been fired threw all these years. Can anyone enlighten me if able thanks.
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Re: Michael peels back the curtain at Redskins Park in interview with Wise

Marty is now a host on NFL radio -- he seems pretty content in retirement folks, don't hold your breath.
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Re: Michael peels back the curtain at Redskins Park in interview with Wise

Faith in the team this year equalls 8-8 season Next yr, First of all a GM with evaluation skills...2nd bring in Gruden as head coach, Colt McCoy at QB(Gruden pick) & SEVERAL OT/OG ..draft prospects. Start from the top-down
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Everyone hated Tom Coughlin and were ready to fire him if you remember. They start winning and he's a god now.

Players and FO's like to win. Winning cures alot. Marty is a winner. He has been no matter where he goes.

I too would welcome a new GM and an experienced OC/DC as our new coach like a Brian Schott. FO has got to change though.

The same thing will hapen here if the team starts winning games. Not winning games is what's sparked all the negative talk about Zorn. Everybody loves a winner. Should we be fortunate enough to go on a winning streak starting Sunday, Zorn will be god too.
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Naw I'm talking about Drew Brees of course Jason. You don't agree ?
Uh, No. I'm not going to argue the stats cause I don't keep up and you most likely looked it up, but I would not agree that he's as good as you are making him seem.
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The problem with Marty is that he arrived right after Norv Turner. Under Turner, there was no accountability and that's a big reason why we underachieved for years under him. Marty came along and said you know what, I don't care how much talent we have here, how many Hall of Famers are on the roster, we're going to work hard and be accountable. But then guys like Darrell Green and Bruce Smith said "Wait a minute, we've been to the Super Bowl and you haven't. We're future Hall of Famers wrapping up our careers. Don't tell us how to play the game."

I would love, love, love for Marty to come back. Love it
Exactly, I recall all the older vets complaining that they should not have to do all the same work that the younger rookies were doing. Maybe he was trying to build team unity, who knows but some didn't like it.
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He also wants mike shanahan
I'm not going to say anything bad about Shanahan. I think he would be good also and early over the summer I thought him or Cowher would be a good choice. As HC. I've just had time to think about it and if..."if" DS brought in a decent GM, someone who knows football, ie; Marty, then the GM would have to be able to get a long with his HC. Which is why I say Marty and his son Brian.

If we pick one of the others, Shanahan or Cowher as HC who do we pick up as GM that would get a long with them well enough? Just asking.
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