Redskins vs. Giants Gameday thread, Opener 2009

[irish]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Looked like 2008 all over again! Same old Offense, different year!

D looked like shit to....piss poor outing! Need to learn how to Tackle.

I am surprised at how suspect the D looked.

I dont know if its the talent or the coaching but the O line just isnt good enough to allow the Skins to do anything on O. If they are goinbg to avg less than 20 ppg then they just cant win.

In the end its obvious that the Skins are nowhere close to an elite NFL team.

[70Chip]

Initial thoughts:

1. I've said it a thousand times. Save your trick play for the third quarter. The Giants defensive staff probably showed them that play (from last years Eagles game) a million times.

2. Deangelo Hall is a defensive Brandon Lloyd. If there were a tree on the field, he would jump up in it to avoid physical contact.

3. What you gain in pass pro by exchanging Janson/Kendall for Heyer/Dockery, you lose in the running game.

4. The Giants hold all the time and never get called for it.

5. Chris Wilson is suppossed to catch an onside kick?

6. Smoot has a huge bullseye on his back.

7. Carlos Rogers dropped two that I saw.

8. Zorn with his play calling and Jason with his play both seem scared to death.

9. Sellers non-existent. Davis non-existent. Thomas (same reverse as last year's game, again film), Kelly one catch.

10. It's the same old shit.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Or DeAngelo Hall could cover the guy in front of him at some point during the four quarters that he's on the field.

But yeah, let's blame Carlos for lunging for the pass breakup instead of trying to one hand stab an INT when no one else at the cornerback position made a play all day.

Deangelo cant cover anyone, Rogers is clearly our best cover corner...too bad he cant catch.

[TheSmurfs22]

I thought we played a rather vanilla game esp on offense but it is one game and we were playing one of the best in the league. No need to hit the panic button or demand anyone's heads yet.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by irish

I am surprised at how suspect the D looked.

I dont know if its the talent or the coaching but the O line just isnt good enough to allow the Skins to do anything on O. If they are goinbg to avg less than 20 ppg then they just cant win.

In the end its obvious that the Skins are nowhere close to an elite NFL team.

Not at this point, they sure aren't!

[TheSmurfs22]

We do need to stop with the stupid penalties that hurt us today. No sense in that.

[T.O.Killa]

God, I wish we had got Jay Cutler or Mark Sanchez.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by irish

I am surprised at how suspect the D looked.

I dont know if its the talent or the coaching but the O line just isnt good enough to allow the Skins to do anything on O. If they are goinbg to avg less than 20 ppg then they just cant win.

In the end its obvious that the Skins are nowhere close to an elite NFL team.

This is something I think we can all agree on.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by TheSmurfs22

I thought we played a rather vanilla game esp on offense but it is one game and we were playing one of the best in the league. No need to hit the panic button or demand anyone's heads yet.

I beg to differ. This Giants team was beat up, bad and we looked like crap. Ya! Next week we beat the Rams to hold onto the 29th spot on the power polls, so fucking excited!

[itvnetop]

I think the O-line gave Campbell good time to make reads today... there is a marked improvement along the trenches this season, imo.

[skinsfan_nn]

Zorn is up to speak.

[TheSmurfs22]

Again, it is the first game of the season no sense in stroking out yet.

We have a lot to work on, we need to play more disciplined and more focused. These things are fixable.

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

God, I wish we had got Jay Cutler or Mark Sanchez.

Dont worry, looks like we will be in a great position to draft a QB next yr. I dont care if we kill the next 3 sorry teams. We cant hang with the contenders. Looks like a .500 season again.

[DynamiteRave]

I don't know what to say about Zorn's post game interview.. Is he delusional?

[insideman]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Initial thoughts:

1. I've said it a thousand times. Save your trick play for the third quarter. The Giants defensive staff probably showed them that play (from last years Eagles game) a million times.

2. Deangelo Hall is a defensive Brandon Lloyd. If there were a tree on the field, he would jump up in it to avoid physical contact.

3. What you gain in pass pro by exchanging Janson/Kendall for Heyer/Dockery, you lose in the running game.

4. The Giants hold all the time and never get called for it.

5. Chris Wilson is suppossed to catch an onside kick?

6. Smoot has a huge bullseye on his back.

7. Carlos Rogers dropped two that I saw.

8. Zorn with his play calling and Jason with his play both seem scared to death.

9. Sellers non-existent. Davis non-existent. Thomas (same reverse as last year's game, again film), Kelly one catch.

10. It's the same old shit.

Good quote here also. We need to start with is a new owner, a new front office and new coachs. Then except the fact that the team needs rebuilding from top to bottom and quite trying to break the bank on high price players. Also in my opinion Zorn is sending negative waves to his players that he in fact does not have any faith in his players. I'm sorry but I believe others may have been right about zorn. coaching as a head coach is not his thing and he has no idea how to get the job done. Also I feel there is no discipline worth a crap on this team. And that is all to be blamed on the wonderous Jim Zorn.