Skins' QB in 2005?

Beemnseven · 11-15-2004, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

As for him getting plenty of work in practice I guess that's true if you consider 10% of the snaps and running the practice squad a lot of work.

Do we know that this is the case? 10% of snaps is all Ramsey has been getting?

There is one positive thing to remember -- did anyone else notice Ramsey getting into a pretty good rhythm with Laveranues Coles in the 4th quarter? On one drive Coles caught 3 out of 4 passes, which were mainly 10 yard hook patterns. He and Ramsey seemed to be getting into a pretty good groove there for a while. Rod Gardner though, had one of his less memorable games.

And that was another thing plaguing our team yesterday. Quarterback isn't the only problem with this offense. In addition to the drops from our wideouts, there are still major issues with the offensive line to address. Dockery still seems to be good for either a holding penalty or false start in just about every game. Ditto for Cory Raymer. Chris Samuels and Randy Thomas seem to be holding their own. But Ray Brown is probably running on fumes at right tackle. Whatever happened to Kenyatta Jones?

For all the problems Gibbs is having with his quarterbacks, Joe Bugel is having his own problems with the O-line. Plus, there isn't consistent run blocking that we can depend on when we really need it. Yesterday would have been one of those games when we should have been able to simply hand the ball to Portis, get him his 30 or more carries and hope he can break one.

Point is, quarterback isn't the only problem with this team.

BossHog · 11-15-2004, 05:13 PM

I'm so pissed off right now, I can't even see straight! Hasselbeck has the most potential and value. Have we seen what Ramsey can do? I know one thing he hasn't lived up to be a first round pick. And he's not worth being paid any more money. If our front office was smart, they would keep Ramsey on the sidelines in hope that another team still wants him! If he starts from here on out, his stock will drop. And that's real! All the money and the draft pick given up for Brunell?! Instead of short changing Sean Taylor they should've been negotiating an incentive laden contract along with a conditional draft pick for Brunell. Deion. 8 million dollars. Brunell. 8 milion dollars. A new GM. Priceless. And don't get me started on Gibbs...

BIGREDSKINFAN63 · 11-15-2004, 05:13 PM

for all intensive purposes,ramsey had a good game.on the other hand,if the bengals dbs had better hands,he would have thrown at least 8 ints yesterday.

i do'nt think it would be fair to NOT let ramsey start the rest of the season.

BIGREDSKINFAN63 · 11-15-2004, 05:16 PM

i do think the skins need a gm badly.gibbs is a great coach,but if not for beatheard and casserley,and the scouts.he would have been just another coach.

itvnetop · 11-15-2004, 07:45 PM

kitna... cuz he's a cheap alternative. if rams shows something the rest of this season, then it's PR.

wolfeskins · 11-15-2004, 08:07 PM

BOSSHOG , can we at least give ramsey a chance first , before we start calling for hasselback? ramsey has not looked very good in relief of the old shatty one but he's come into the games trying to bring the team back from behind, let him have some practice with the starters and let him play a game or two from start to finnish, if he still looks bad then maybe it's time for hasselback. i must say though, having watched hasselback last year, he looked no better than ramsey and watching him in the pre-season is not a good way to guage how good he is because he only played against 3rd and 4th string players. the best thing about hasselback is he can scramble and run better than brunell and ramsey.

Redskins_P · 11-15-2004, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BossHog

I'm so pissed off right now, I can't even see straight! Hasselbeck has the most potential and value. Have we seen what Ramsey can do? I know one thing he hasn't lived up to be a first round pick. And he's not worth being paid any more money. If our front office was smart, they would keep Ramsey on the sidelines in hope that another team still wants him! If he starts from here on out, his stock will drop. And that's real! All the money and the draft pick given up for Brunell?! Instead of short changing Sean Taylor they should've been negotiating an incentive laden contract along with a conditional draft pick for Brunell. Deion. 8 million dollars. Brunell. 8 milion dollars. A new GM. Priceless. And don't get me started on Gibbs...

How does Hasselbeck have more potential and value than Ramsey?

MTK · 11-15-2004, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskins_P

How does Hasselbeck have more potential and value than Ramsey?

Seriously, I'd love to hear more on that

GoSkins! · 11-15-2004, 10:29 PM

Ramsey is the man. After the money that we spent on Brunnel, we can't afford to play "Guess the next Quarterback". Brunnel won't get dropped before June 2005 for cap reasons and I would be surprised if he doesn't end up back next year in a back up roll. Then again, he may just look back at his games and deside to retire. That would be a nice out. I bet we draft a big time o-lineman next year and get our defense healthy. Ramsey, Coles, and Portis could have a monster year.

Gmanc711 · 11-15-2004, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BossHog

I'm so pissed off right now, I can't even see straight! Hasselbeck has the most potential and value. Have we seen what Ramsey can do? I know one thing he hasn't lived up to be a first round pick. And he's not worth being paid any more money. If our front office was smart, they would keep Ramsey on the sidelines in hope that another team still wants him! If he starts from here on out, his stock will drop. And that's real! All the money and the draft pick given up for Brunell?! Instead of short changing Sean Taylor they should've been negotiating an incentive laden contract along with a conditional draft pick for Brunell. Deion. 8 million dollars. Brunell. 8 milion dollars. A new GM. Priceless. And don't get me started on Gibbs...

Actually, I'd love to know what your reffering to w/ Gibbs?

CrazyCanuck · 11-15-2004, 11:45 PM

I'll be really disappointed if Ramsey isn't the man in 2005. He really showed me a lot last year in Spurrier's deathtrap. It's a pleasure watching him over Brunell. Not that he doesn't give me heart attacks, but I think if he can improve his footwork, decision making, and knowledge of the offense, he can be really good. The kid's got a gun and he's tough as hell.

Keep in mind that the guy hasn't been in a "normal" situation yet. Spurrier's protection was non-existant. And this year he's been brought in both times when we've been way behind and the whole world knows we're passing. I'm very excited to see what he can do with the score tied and an established running game.

SUNRA · 11-15-2004, 11:49 PM

I voted for Drew Brees. But I really like Tim Hasselbeck.

View Poll Results: Who will be the Redskins' starting QB in 2005?
Ramsey	48	75.00%
Brunell	0	0%
Hasselbeck	2	3.13%
Brees	9	14.06%
Kitna	2	3.13%
other	3	4.69%
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11-15-2004, 05:13 PM	#33
BIGREDSKINFAN63 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: bassett-va Age: 61 Posts: 289	for all intensive purposes,ramsey had a good game.on the other hand,if the bengals dbs had better hands,he would have thrown at least 8 ints yesterday. i do'nt think it would be fair to NOT let ramsey start the rest of the season. __________________ "7 days without the redskins, makes one weak!!!"

11-15-2004, 05:16 PM	#34
BIGREDSKINFAN63 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: bassett-va Age: 61 Posts: 289	i do think the skins need a gm badly.gibbs is a great coach,but if not for beatheard and casserley,and the scouts.he would have been just another coach. __________________ "7 days without the redskins, makes one weak!!!"

11-15-2004, 11:49 PM	#42
SUNRA The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,680	I voted for Drew Brees. But I really like Tim Hasselbeck. __________________ Redskins Member since 1970

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11-15-2004, 05:13 PM	#32
BossHog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 665	I'm so pissed off right now, I can't even see straight! Hasselbeck has the most potential and value. Have we seen what Ramsey can do? I know one thing he hasn't lived up to be a first round pick. And he's not worth being paid any more money. If our front office was smart, they would keep Ramsey on the sidelines in hope that another team still wants him! If he starts from here on out, his stock will drop. And that's real! All the money and the draft pick given up for Brunell?! Instead of short changing Sean Taylor they should've been negotiating an incentive laden contract along with a conditional draft pick for Brunell. Deion. 8 million dollars. Brunell. 8 milion dollars. A new GM. Priceless. And don't get me started on Gibbs...

11-15-2004, 07:45 PM	#35
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 47 Posts: 3,007	kitna... cuz he's a cheap alternative. if rams shows something the rest of this season, then it's PR.

11-15-2004, 08:07 PM	#36
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	BOSSHOG , can we at least give ramsey a chance first , before we start calling for hasselback? ramsey has not looked very good in relief of the old shatty one but he's come into the games trying to bring the team back from behind, let him have some practice with the starters and let him play a game or two from start to finnish, if he still looks bad then maybe it's time for hasselback. i must say though, having watched hasselback last year, he looked no better than ramsey and watching him in the pre-season is not a good way to guage how good he is because he only played against 3rd and 4th string players. the best thing about hasselback is he can scramble and run better than brunell and ramsey.

11-15-2004, 10:29 PM	#39
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 55 Posts: 1,587	Ramsey is the man. After the money that we spent on Brunnel, we can't afford to play "Guess the next Quarterback". Brunnel won't get dropped before June 2005 for cap reasons and I would be surprised if he doesn't end up back next year in a back up roll. Then again, he may just look back at his games and deside to retire. That would be a nice out. I bet we draft a big time o-lineman next year and get our defense healthy. Ramsey, Coles, and Portis could have a monster year.

11-15-2004, 11:45 PM	#41
CrazyCanuck Serenity Now Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,008	I'll be really disappointed if Ramsey isn't the man in 2005. He really showed me a lot last year in Spurrier's deathtrap. It's a pleasure watching him over Brunell. Not that he doesn't give me heart attacks, but I think if he can improve his footwork, decision making, and knowledge of the offense, he can be really good. The kid's got a gun and he's tough as hell. Keep in mind that the guy hasn't been in a "normal" situation yet. Spurrier's protection was non-existant. And this year he's been brought in both times when we've been way behind and the whole world knows we're passing. I'm very excited to see what he can do with the score tied and an established running game.

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