Where Was Calvin Johnson?

[GMScud]

I'm happy CJ wasn't 100%, because he's nasty. Although Roy Williams is nasty too, and he didn't do squat either.

[dgack]

Let's not forget Landry sealed the Philly win with that last thunderous hit on "White Lightning". How many games has C. "The Other" Johnson won singlehandedly for Detroit?

[MTRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by Soup's Uncle

LaRon was a bomb pick. Arguably the best defender in the draft.

Agreed. He and Taylor seem to mesh real well and that's as important as Landry being the beast that he is.

[Ijaeger]

Hail.. first time poster, long time reader. just wanted to comment on the secondary. nasty. we held the #1 passing offense to 76yrds., and macklin wasn't even active. we constantly brought pressure and didn't even apply the blitz too often if at all.(memory a little fuzzy due to well, you know, alcohol the defense allowed a measely 144 total yards to a ferocious offense. anyone thinking the giants game could possibly be a fluke?,even though they don't look too shabby right now. if we continue to apply and execute the playcalling we did sunday, we stand a good chance. green bay will be tough, but they can be beat. stay positive and go skins.

[MTRedskinsFan]

good post. welcome to the board.

[holcknowsbest]

i think i was one of the first to post landry should be our first pick. after his combine and seeing those numbers compared to what he did at lsu...you just knew this guy was a stud...i love him and so glad we went defense and went secondary too. showing pretty good right now isnt it. i am telling you a back 7 is where its at, it allows for the front 4 to be more creative and less responsible for things....loved the pick, love landry.

[That Guy]

CJ's been fine, wrs don't usually go off their first season, but he's done well.

i liked bowe as the 2nd best wr, and he was a great value. okoye and carriker in a trade down seemed like good ideas at the time, and still are... we still could use another wr and a de, and either could be a better sum total (w/ prioleau or stoutmire at s) than landry with what we've got.

overall we're not doing too bad, and our young guys are getting big minutes, which is always nice.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by dgack

Let's not forget Landry sealed the Philly win with that last thunderous hit on "White Lightning". How many games has C. "The Other" Johnson won singlehandedly for Detroit?

C'mon. Landry didn't singlehandedly win the game for us. It would have been tied except McNabb missed a wide open wr at the goalline.

[WillH]

I wanted Okoye BAD!!! And Im still a little disappointed we didn't get him. He already has four sacks in his first five games and he's like what 19? He could have been a beast for us for a long time.

Don't get me wrong, Landry is a beast, and the best pick we could have made given the circumstances. He is the better player, and he and ST make the best Saftey Tandem in the league, but if someone were willing to trade up, and we could have gotten Okoye, AND some more young talent, I would have been much happier, but no complaints really, Im really excited to watch ST and Landry develop together.

[Crazyhorse1]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Like I said, I was all over CJ during the draft.

I think there's something in the water in Detroit.

Calvin Johnson's injured. He's not bust yet. You're a bit premature with your call.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Crazyhorse1

Calvin Johnson's injured. He's not bust yet. You're a bit premature with your call.

Point is he hasn't come right in and revolutionized the game as we were promised we would by the talking heads. Not that he's a bust, far from it. Just not worth the 2nd.

[MTRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by WillH

I wanted Okoye BAD!!! And Im still a little disappointed we didn't get him. He already has four sacks in his first five games and he's like what 19? He could have been a beast for us for a long time.

Don't get me wrong, Landry is a beast, and the best pick we could have made given the circumstances. He is the better player, and he and ST make the best Saftey Tandem in the league, but if someone were willing to trade up, and we could have gotten Okoye, AND some more young talent, I would have been much happier, but no complaints really, Im really excited to watch ST and Landry develop together.

I think what you said last about ST and Landry is huge important. Getting Okoye or one of the stud ends that each went to Atlanta and Tampa were 2nd best choices (even on a good trade down deal) because w/ Landry we basically got a better ST. Taylor trusts Landry to be a huge presence in the box so that he can contain the deep threat the way he did in college (tons of interceptions). I think Taylor's philosophy for SS is to punish guys so bad they don't want to go across the middle, and when we didn't have one who could do that Taylor had to play in the box way too much.
I'm just saying Landry was the very best pick to improve our D as a unit IMO.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

I think what you said last about ST and Landry is huge important. Getting Okoye or one of the stud ends that each went to Atlanta and Tampa were 2nd best choices (even on a good trade down deal) because w/ Landry we basically got a better ST. Taylor trusts Landry to be a huge presence in the box so that he can contain the deep threat the way he did in college (tons of interceptions). I think Taylor's philosophy for SS is to punish guys so bad they don't want to go across the middle, and when we didn't have one who could do that Taylor had to play in the box way too much.
I'm just saying Landry was the very best pick to improve our D as a unit IMO.

This is possible, but even this year, I've still watched plenty of receivers get behind Taylor in the secondary. The guy just takes bad angles and is easy to beat deep.

Landry is doing what is expected of him in his rookie year, and it IS allowing Taylor to contribute in other ways he couldn't last year. But at some point, someone is going to have to fix the gaping hole in deep pass coverage. Eventually teams are going to figure out that you can't hit the holes in the Redskins zone defense because Taylor is too aggressive and that the way to beat us is to be patient, and throw it deep late.

Not that Okoye could have done much about this, but the pressure up the middle he would have provided could have been invaluable. In any case, Landry will do his job for us for a long time and we will probably remain relatively strong on defense for a long time.

[MTRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

This is possible, but even this year, I've still watched plenty of receivers get behind Taylor in the secondary. The guy just takes bad angles and is easy to beat deep.

Landry is doing what is expected of him in his rookie year, and it IS allowing Taylor to contribute in other ways he couldn't last year. But at some point, someone is going to have to fix the gaping hole in deep pass coverage. Eventually teams are going to figure out that you can't hit the holes in the Redskins zone defense because Taylor is too aggressive and that the way to beat us is to be patient, and throw it deep late.

Not that Okoye could have done much about this, but the pressure up the middle he would have provided could have been invaluable. In any case, Landry will do his job for us for a long time and we will probably remain relatively strong on defense for a long time.

Seriously, I didn't know Taylor was still getting beat. I didn't even think there were more than one or two deep passes completed against us so far. Either way, I think the more confident Taylor gets w/ Landry dominating routes and runners in the box he should cover the deep threat better and better. If he's getting beat toward end of season there is a problem.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

Seriously, I didn't know Taylor was still getting beat. I didn't even think there were more than one or two deep passes completed against us so far. Either way, I think the more confident Taylor gets w/ Landry dominating routes and runners in the box he should cover the deep threat better and better. If he's getting beat toward end of season there is a problem.

Well, the passes haven't been complete. Chambers dropped about 3, and McNabb and Kitna missed about one each. My point is that they all were there if the offense had connected.

Now that the nature of the deep pass, you can't always complete it even when its open. That doesn't excuse Taylor's angles to the ball, which are always an adventure to say the least.