News from the Combine

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by NFLeurope

See, i dont really understand why you would like this trade...

Here you are suggesting to trade down from number 6 to number 8, which in itself could command a 2nd or 3rd round pick...depending on how badly the team wanted to move up to get a player available at #6.

And then trading betts away for a 2nd round pick...

So if you count the value of going from 6th overall to 8th overall...then you are essentially suggesting we trade Betts and a 2nd or 3rd rd pick (which is the value we could get for dropping from 6th to 8th) for the texans 2nd rounder... I dont really see how this would be a beneficial trade from our angle.

Ideally I'd say #6 for #8 and #40 but it would seem like we may have to add a little extra for that.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by JGisLordOfTheRings

TO HELL WITH THAT! Betts had 1154 rushing yards last year and he only started 7 games I think. 7! Add 445 recieving yards and 5 overall TD's and I say thats pretty damn good. Why would we trade a back who has just proved himself as being able to carry a nice load of work AND a high pick for an above average LB and 25th pick? I like Vilma, he's cool and all but WTF! Trading down is not a good idea. On one hand, Vilma could really shore up the defense but then the quality of our pick decreases pretty greatly. Yeah, there might be people at that spot worth taking but, I think the draft could go any which crazy ways so.....ok...I'm too F-ed up right now from staying up all night partying, it's time to sleep. I'll finish this later. Hahah

yeah that pretty much sums it up if we odnt get an extra pick (like the one we gave them last year what the hell were we thinking then this deal is str8 up bulls***!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[offiss]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Ideally I'd say #6 for #8 and #40 but it would seem like we may have to add a little extra for that.

Well it alway's SEEEEEEEMS that way to a lot of people within the organization, thats why we constantly come out with the short end of the stick.

We will not make a trade until the draft starts to unfold and teams see the player their targeting become available, they will be willing to pay more as the pick approaches and they know they can get their guy, personally I believe Peterson can be a big chip for us to play if he's still there when we pick, the Panthers have a huge need a RB, they may be the team willing to give up the most to get Peterson if he's still available. Quinn could be another guy that's available when we pick and possibly bring back quite a bit.

[dmek25]

I'm not sure why people around here don't want to trade a back up running back( with fumbling issues) for a proven, pro bowl middle linebacker. we definitely need someone in the middle. yet, on the flip side, alot of these same people seem to have no problem signing a 32 year old middle linebacker, when the last 2 times we have tried that, have failed miserably( trotter, barrow)? by signing fletcher, this puts the skins in the exact same position they are in , about 2 seasons from now. this is assuming they can get 2 years out of fletcher

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by dmek25

I'm not sure why people around here don't want to trade a back up running back( with fumbling issues) for a proven, pro bowl middle linebacker. we definitely need someone in the middle. yet, on the flip side, alot of these same people seem to have no problem signing a 32 year old middle linebacker, when the last 2 times we have tried that, have failed miserably( trotter, barrow)? by signing fletcher, this puts the skins in the exact same position they are in , about 2 seasons from now. this is assuming they can get 2 years out of fletcher

I don't think that's the real concern. It's dropping from #6 to #25 and not adding any other picks that's the concern

[skinsfan69]

Calvin Johnson is 6'5 235 lbs and ran a 4.3. If he somehow slips to the 6th pick I hope like hell we take him. That is if we still have our pick.

[andtz0]

Originally Posted by dmek25

how much do you guys really think betts is going to carry the ball with portis healthy? remember how many carries larry johnson was getting when priest holmes was healthy? rock cartwright can pick up those 7-10 carries. we NEED vilma, a proven all pro middle linebacker

100 % percent agree, but Cartwright tends to fumble the ball.

[theJBexperience]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

They better get something else for that 6th pick. Betts for vilma, OK, but # 6 for just a #25, no second. that would be a questionable move on our part. we would still be stuck with 1 pick the first day, and a hole to fill at RB, since TJ is a free agent, and all we have is Rock.

BAD MOVE

I agree. The deal would be worht it with some more picks thrown into the mix. I thought the Skins FO had seen the light and realized they need to build through the draft. Trading down and still having one pick on day one wouldn't help. You'd think they'd realize when teams trade up they usually throw in a few more picks, especially since, that's how we've gotten rid of ours.

[holcknowsbest]

the jets have to sweeten the deal a little more, i agree with all the guys saying bad move if we dont get a 2nd or maybe even a 3rd rounder. heres my plan of action: 1) resign doc, 2) sign kerney, this guy is a total beast, 3) make the draft day deal with the jets if they sweeten it. IF LARON LANDRY IS AVALIABLE (HE WONT BE) PICK HIM OTHERWISE pick Willis, Posluszny, or Timmions. Then with the second or third pick cb-s eric weddle out of utah(smart/instinctive football player who can play the game at a high speed). Thats what our boys need to do. ..........its very hard for me to think like that because i think jamal anderson is the next coming.............oh and would anybody trade our 6th pick for juluis peppers?

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Calvin Johnson is 6'5 235 lbs and ran a 4.3. If he somehow slips to the 6th pick I hope like hell we take him. That is if we still have our pick.

man do i hope you dont work for the skins front office. with so many glaring needs, about the last thing the skins need is another wide out

[holcknowsbest]

oh and i forgot to tell you that rocky macintosh isnt good enough thats why we go lb at number 25 instead of db or dline. all three of those linebackers can out play him esspecially willis and posluszny. its hard to admit it but i said it was bust last year when they drafted him. i hope he works out but right now it was a idiot mistake to trade up to get him, awful.

[GiantsSuck703]

Originally Posted by dmek25

man do i hope you dont work for the skins front office. with so many glaring needs, about the last thing the skins need is another wide out

You mean the same way we picked Carlos Rogers when we had a glaring need at corner instead of picking Shawne Merriman, yeah passing on a phenom reciever who ran a 4.3 forty at 6'5" would definately be the smart thing, god knows Brandon Lloyd,James Thrash and Randle El just strike fear in the heart of opponents.

[dmek25]

so what do we do with him? hope we win every game 43-40? i think we are all in agreement that its the skins defense that needs the most work

[GiantsSuck703]

Originally Posted by holcknowsbest

oh and i forgot to tell you that rocky macintosh isnt good enough thats why we go lb at number 25 instead of db or dline. all three of those linebackers can out play him esspecially willis and posluszny. its hard to admit it but i said it was bust last year when they drafted him. i hope he works out but right now it was a idiot mistake to trade up to get him, awful.

Wow, your really good, you can tell Mcintosh is a bust after he played in a couple games, amazing. First off, Posluzny doesnt have half the athleticism that Rocky has and not to mention he has bad knees. Pat Willis is a monster, but again your comparing a speedy OLB to a bruising MLB, it just doesnt make sense, its sort of like comparing Ray Lewis to Cato June.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by dmek25

man do i hope you dont work for the skins front office. with so many glaring needs, about the last thing the skins need is another wide out

We are not good enough to draft for need. Did the Saints need a RB last year? No. They took the best player on the board. The Texans drafted for need and you see where it got them.

Only positions that are off limits are QB and RB. Otherwise it should be fair game.