Adam Archuleta

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So I guess we should just cut AA and Carter right now?

Hopefully you were being sarcastic. If not, maybe I should ban you.

Definitely sarcastic!

[MTK]

phew, I heard the parrot calling there for a minute

[DaveyFoSho]

Do you guys jump on everyone when they do not do spectacular things right away??? 3 games guys give him time!! Rome was not built in 1 or even 3 days :-)

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by DaveyFoSho

Do you guys jump on everyone when they do not do spectacular things right away??? 3 games guys give him time!! Rome was not built in 1 or even 3 days :-)

Well if God had played for our team and hadn't gotten Rome built in three days we'd be pissed I guess.

[diehardskin2982]

I won't judge aa until springs comes back because then we will see what he was orininally brought in for. I do however also feel that we should have never let Ryan Clark go he was developing as a leader for this team

[hail_2_da_skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Williams has stated that he had his eye on Arch for a long time.

I know it might be hard to believe, but he just might pan out if we give him more than a few games to show his stuff.

Williams tends to know what he's doing when it comes to picking his players. The benefit of the doubt has to go his way.

Archuleta was a bad aquisition. The reason the Rams let him go, "HE CANNOT COVER". Williams may have thought that he could hide him in the scheme, but offensive coordinators will exploit his weakness. I think the best thing that can happen to the Redskins is to get Shawn Springs back on the field. Having Springs will improve the entire coverage. Rogers is a good corner, he just isn't a #1 at this point in his career. Rumpf has done a decent job, he would be even better at nickel.

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Williams has stated that he had his eye on Arch for a long time.

I know it might be hard to believe, but he just might pan out if we give him more than a few games to show his stuff.

Williams tends to know what he's doing when it comes to picking his players. The benefit of the doubt has to go his way.

You bring up a good point that many seem to forget - this is Gregg Williams' defense!

Whether it's AA or Carter or letting Clark go it all falls on Williams' shoulders at the end of the day. I highly doubt Mr. Snyder forced these guys onto Williams, it was probably the exact opposite. Danny probably offered to add a few guys to help out the D and these are the guys that Williams thought would make the biggest improvement.

Whether he's right or wrong remains to be seen in the long run, but let's put the blame (or credit) where it belongs.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

The reason they're throwing at Rogers is because

1) HE is not a number 1 corner...
2) He's guarding their best receiver.

It makes total sense why they aren't throwing to their lesser receivers, because they can throw to their best one... duh..


Actually I'll follow your advice and argue with the numbers. Those numbers don't mean anything. The league changes every year... teams get better... teams get worse. I'm positive a team has been ranked high, improved, and the following year was ranked lower. The line of reasoning is flawed. Those numbers should be used as a guideline, and not a rule. Especially when your talking about 5 or 6 places.

Duh? Is Marcus Robinson a #1 receiver? Is Travis Taylor? Is Eric Moulds a #1 receiver? Is Terry Glenn? Watch a game or two before you make an idiotic comment to me.

Why don't the numbers mean anything? Back up your point. Teams get better, teams get worse? What the hell does that mean? Why, because you said so? So the fact that they were 3rd in the league with Pierce and Smoot even though that defense had to deal with a horrendous offense means absolutely nothing. Whatever you say...

They are currently ranked 15th and if you think that this year's version is anywhere near 2004's or the defense that played the last 7 games last year then you are blind.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

You would think that opposing teams would go after Wright or Rumph. Instead they victimize our new #1 corner.

They know he's not a #1 caliber corner yet. So they throw the ball who they feel is there best receiever. If someone guarding your best weapon on offense isn't your best weapon on defense, you exploit that mismatch. When Springs is in, they know he's a veteran that has played consistently, so they avoid him. Are you saying other teams believe Rodgers is our worst corner, and therefore "victimizing" him is the result? No, that's where they see the biggest mismatch. Where Sean Taylor is on the field can help also play a role. Regardless, my point was that you can't assume Rodgers is worse than Rumph or Wright because other teams are picking on him. They're exploiting the biggest mismatch in the defense and thats why they're going after him.
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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

My original point was that the defense would have been better last year and this year with those guys. The defense with Pierce was 3rd in the NFL. They were top 10 last year and a disappointment this year. I would rather have the 2004 version. If you don't agree, argue with the number.

My comment was being critical of you praising Pierce with defensive ranking. I think that's way to broad of a catagory to attribute to one player. The redskins defense falling down the rank doesn't necessarily point as a direct result from Pierce's departure either. Team rankings aren't a consistent enough statistic to assume that one player leaving directly impacted the ranking of the team the following year. Theres too many variables, including other defenses improving from year to year. I don't feel that's an impossible concept to grasp, and I apoligize if I was being too vague.

I'm sorry if I offended you, I simply was disagreeing with the methods you used to prove your point.

[theJBexperience]

Originally Posted by mike340

Both corners we got when we had #28 here developed very quickly and well (Bailey and Smoot.) I don't think this is a coincidence. We need to get him back as a DB coach. The publicity would also help his charity.

As far as comparing Smoot and Rogers, they are both #2 corners, so that part (at least) is comparable. But you can't compare Rogers covering the #1 receiver vs. Smoot covering the #2.

Most of our weaknesses on defense are on pass coverage. I feel that when Springs comes back it will about as much impact as when Portis came back (if not more) on offense. Rogers will be back to his #2. The other guys won't be shading over to Rogers 'cause they won't be worried about him doing his job. And Arch and co. who aren't good in coverage won't have to do it any more (or much), thus freeing them up to do what they do best. Just about everybody's playing suboptimally, since they're trying to adjust to help each other out. To me, it feels like, with Springs, we'll be able to bring an extra defender at the QB on pass plays. That's huge.

So my verdict on Arch and Carter: they've looked (worse than) useless so far, but I'm reserving judgement until after Springs is back.

I also liked Smoot, and he should regret leaving here. After all, I'm sure "love boats" happen here all the time, so if he'd invited some politician on the boat that the incident would never have reached the papers! ;-)

Sorry about this stream-of-consciousness post.

I agree. Arch looked good in the pre season blitzing and stuffing the run, but without Springs in the lineup, the Skins haven't been able to use him as much in the same role. We'll see when/if Springs returns.

[4mrusmc]

A. Archulata sucks balls for now but, maybe he will get better. I still liked M. Bowen better. Our defense is missing that something special right now.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

Archuleta was a bad aquisition. The reason the Rams let him go, "HE CANNOT COVER". Williams may have thought that he could hide him in the scheme, but offensive coordinators will exploit his weakness. I think the best thing that can happen to the Redskins is to get Shawn Springs back on the field. Having Springs will improve the entire coverage. Rogers is a good corner, he just isn't a #1 at this point in his career. Rumpf has done a decent job, he would be even better at nickel.

when williams got him, prioleau wasn't on IR. AA would have been used like matt bowen, with a guy like prioleau (or ryan clark) spelling him depending on the situation. Still too much money, but it wouldn't have seemed soo bad that way.

[Alvin#40]

Originally Posted by That Guy

when williams got him, prioleau wasn't on IR. AA would have been used like matt bowen, with a guy like prioleau (or ryan clark) spelling him depending on the situation. Still too much money, but it wouldn't have seemed soo bad that way.

I agree. People dont realize just how damaging that was to lose him, and on the VERY 1st play of the year too. He also brought corner depth as well.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

They know he's not a #1 caliber corner yet. So they throw the ball who they feel is there best receiever. If someone guarding your best weapon on offense isn't your best weapon on defense, you exploit that mismatch. When Springs is in, they know he's a veteran that has played consistently, so they avoid him. Are you saying other teams believe Rodgers is our worst corner, and therefore "victimizing" him is the result? No, that's where they see the biggest mismatch. Where Sean Taylor is on the field can help also play a role. Regardless, my point was that you can't assume Rodgers is worse than Rumph or Wright because other teams are picking on him. They're exploiting the biggest mismatch in the defense and thats why they're going after him.
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My comment was being critical of you praising Pierce with defensive ranking. I think that's way to broad of a catagory to attribute to one player. The redskins defense falling down the rank doesn't necessarily point as a direct result from Pierce's departure either. Team rankings aren't a consistent enough statistic to assume that one player leaving directly impacted the ranking of the team the following year. Theres too many variables, including other defenses improving from year to year. I don't feel that's an impossible concept to grasp, and I apoligize if I was being too vague.

I'm sorry if I offended you, I simply was disagreeing with the methods you used to prove your point.

All I need is my eyes. That is how I know that they were a better defense than last year's version or this years. The numbers just back it up.

One player can make that much difference. Look at the loss of Springs. They will be a much better defense when he gets back but until that happens they will look bad. As for Pierce, we aren't talking about a nickel corner. The middle linebacker has a huge role in a defense. Look how crappy the Giants were when they lost him last year.

I love Marshall but he is not as good as Pierce and last year's version and this year's pale in comparison to the '04 unit.

[724Skinsfan]

If having Pierce is so great why are the Giants are ranked 27th in the league this year in total defense, whereas the Redskins (w/o Pierce) are ranked 15th. He's a very good LB but he's starting to look more like just another product of GW's system since Marshal is putting up similiar stats that Pierce did in 2004 through the first three games.