Brett Favre Decision

[Sociofan]

Originally Posted by Bushead

I want to ask one thing: How is it when Brett Farve becomes addicted to Pain Killers, everyone views it as a tradgedy and horrible,but when,Let's say Randy Moss, has a little Mary Jane, every wants to call him a thug?

I think of Randy Moss as a thug because he tried running over a police officer with his car; because he threw a full water bottle at an official; because Notre Dame had to pull his scholarship when he got involved in a racially-motivated fight in high school; because he never fails to find a way to embarrass himself and his team.

I don't give a crap about his nugs, but the guy does need to grow up.

[jdlea]

Well, if it's so annoying to everyone, don't pay attention to it. I'm not saying that tragedy makes it okay for him to take this long. I think the fact that he's one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time gives him the right to take so long making this decision. They weren't going to get a QB in free agency, they have Aaron Rogers. And if you think that I'm wrong, you're lying to yourself. This team won't even address obvious needs. I don't think that Favre thinks the NFL needs him in any way.

I would agree that it's not good for his team to take this long making the decision, but he doesn't tell people to ask John Clayton and Mort to see what his decision will be. It's the intrigue of everyone else that's causing this. I'm sure it's frustrating to the Packers organization and Packer fans, but the fact is, he's one of the best to ever play the game, so people give him a pass. I don't begrudge him in the least for wanting to make sure that he makes a decision he won't regret.

While I'm sure people will tear this apart cause you don't like Salisbury, Sean Salisbury was talking about what it was like to decide to retire. He said, "You're damn right you miss it. You'll never 100% sure you made the right decision. That's just something you have to deal with, I understand why it's taking him so long and I wish I had evaluated this heavily." At least it was something very close to that, back around the time of the Super Bowl. That comes from a guy who was holding a clipboard about 90% of the time. It's not an easy decision to make and the Packers aren't making it any easier.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by saden1

Tragedy is part of life. My grandfather died a couple of months ago. I miss him but life goes on. There is nothing especial about Favre's circumstances besides him having 10 million more in his bank account if he decides to stay. Personally, I hate indecisiveness...make a decision already!

And, I just wanted to ask you, would you have showed up for work like 2 days after your father died? Cause I know for one, that I damn sure would not have, but Favre went out and had an amazing game.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by jdlea

And, I just wanted to ask you, would you have showed up for work like 2 days after your father died? Cause I know for one, that I damn sure would not have, but Favre went out and had an amazing game.

Fortunately I haven't had to deal with my father passing away. I did, however, go to a job interview and then to work the day after finding out my grandfather passed away and I was certainly very close to my grandfather. I sent 5 years living with him and my grandmother from age 4 to 9.

[Dirtbag59]

Hey you guys are forgetting a few things. First of all the Brett Farve has recently experienced the following:

1. The death of his father
2. The death of his brother in law on his property in some sort of ATV accident
3. His wife being diagnosed with Brest Cancer
4. His family became stranded by Katrina with no power for weeks. He also lost his childhood home.

and finally
5. The last bastian of pleasure and joy he had left in his life, the Green Bay Packers, have gone from automatic NFC North Champs to Bottom Dwellers.

Plus lets not forget the fact that before he was drafted he got in a career threatining car accident. The fact that he has become the NFL's ironman, painkillers or not, with an injury that made docs advise him to hang up his cleats might make him comprable to my childhood hero Cal Ripken.

Bret Farve has been through a lot of shit in his life. And for a bunch of people to just pile on and say stuff like well hes rich and this happened to me is bull. Hes never asked for sympathy and everytime somethings challenged him hes toughed it out. The only reason it recieves so much attention is because hes Bret Farve, NFL Legend for the leagues most storied franchise (in the medias eyes) not because he gets up on the podium at press confrences and cries like a little bitch.

[STPainmaker]

He got a huge free pass by the NFL and media on the pain killer thing. If he was not white he would have gotten killed by the media.

He has had a stretch of tragedy thats awful but he is being selfish with the decision. Let go already, you and you're team have slipped. You are rich, accomplished and have a family. Do the right thing and don't go out like a prize fighter...all punchy and disabled. Be with your family, friends and let your team rebuild.

[Sociofan]

Originally Posted by STPainmaker

He got a huge free pass by the NFL and media on the pain killer thing. If he was not white he would have gotten killed by the media.

He has had a stretch of tragedy thats awful but he is being selfish with the decision. Let go already, you and you're team have slipped. You are rich, accomplished and have a family. Do the right thing and don't go out like a prize fighter...all punchy and disabled. Be with your family, friends and let your team rebuild.

Dude, pulling the racial card is just ridiculous. People still cheer for guys like Dexter Manley to stay clean. Why? Because he was a stud on the field and he was generally a good guy. Koren Robinson? He's being admired for his determination and the way he has turned around his life and pushed out his addiction. Brett Favre has EARNED his admiration. Of course people are aware of his issues, but like Dexter and Koren, it is a personal problem that people hope he can overcome. In general, I think the media respect addiction problems and don't beat guys up too badly over it unless it gets/can get others hurt (e.g. DUI, gun involvement).

[dmek25]

just remember with stpainmaker,its always either black or white.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by dmek25

just remember with stpainmaker,its always either black or white.

While I don't agree with painmaker's assessment that this is a black or white issue, I think you're confusing him with ST21. This is the first time, that I can recall, that painmaker has mentioned race as an issue on any subject.

[KLHJ2]

I think that you all are blinded by the bonus he gets if he hangs onto his indecision a little while longer.

[SamSneed36]

People say the Favre career cant be tarnished, but over the past year or so I have been shocked by just how selfish this guy has been. Yes he did play after several tragic deaths in his family, props for that. But first the comments about not wanting to mentor Arron Rogers, now this whole retire/dont retire BS. He needs to man up and think of the team and the fans at some point. Go out with a little dignity man

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by SamSneed36

People say the Favre career cant be tarnished, but over the past year or so I have been shocked by just how selfish this guy has been. Yes he did play after several tragic deaths in his family, props for that. But first the comments about not wanting to mentor Arron Rogers, now this whole retire/dont retire BS. He needs to man up and think of the team and the fans at some point. Go out with a little dignity man

Amen

[STPainmaker]

Originally Posted by dmek25

just remember with stpainmaker,its always either black or white.

You must have confused me with someone else. I really do feel though he got a huge free pass on that thing.

[dmek25]

tafkas,you are right.stpainmaker i apoligize

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by SamSneed36

People say the Favre career cant be tarnished, but over the past year or so I have been shocked by just how selfish this guy has been. Yes he did play after several tragic deaths in his family, props for that. But first the comments about not wanting to mentor Arron Rogers, now this whole retire/dont retire BS. He needs to man up and think of the team and the fans at some point. Go out with a little dignity man

Totally! Great Post. Brett is taking me from huge fan to view him as rather T.O.ish with all the drama. What next, on the Red carpet with Joan and Melissa????????