Salary Cap Analysis

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Monksdown

Pretty sure the J. E. T. S. Jets, Jets, Jets, are in worse shape than we are. Unless they can convince Chad to agree to a 8 million dollar a year pay cut.

It's not a good sign though when we are comparing our cap situation to the Jets. Maybe this cap thing actually exists after all.

[Monksdown]

So if it doesnt get extended, then this year we will be screwed. But after that there is no cap?

If that is the case then isnt Dan Snyder's dream coming true in 2007?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Monksdown

So if it doesnt get extended, then this year we will be screwed. But after that there is no cap?

If that is the case then isnt Dan Snyder's dream coming true in 2007?

Yes. If the CBA doesn't get extended this spring, the Gang of 9 (the 9 high revenue clubs) are just going to dig in their heels and take the league to an era of no salary cap. We'll be buying free agents left and right.

I did realize something though, even though the league will be worse off without a salary cap and will resemble MLB going forward, all the NFC East teams are part of the Gang of 9. Our division should remain very strong and stay very competitive, because every team can afford to bid for free agents. I think as Redskins fans we'd still have a fair amount to look forward to if the salary cap ceases to exist. It would be a shame for the league, but the NFC East should return to the dominance seen in the 80s and 90s.

[Monksdown]

Hot dogs are going to cost $14 in 07

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yes. If the CBA doesn't get extended this spring, the Gang of 9 (the 9 high revenue clubs) are just going to dig in their heels and take the league to an era of no salary cap. We'll be buying free agents left and right.

From the look of things (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/s...=ESPNHeadlines) 2007 is going to be a capless season. Dan Snyder will be living in a perpetual wet dream.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yes. If the CBA doesn't get extended this spring, the Gang of 9 (the 9 high revenue clubs) are just going to dig in their heels and take the league to an era of no salary cap. We'll be buying free agents left and right.

I did realize something though, even though the league will be worse off without a salary cap and will resemble MLB going forward, all the NFC East teams are part of the Gang of 9. Our division should remain very strong and stay very competitive, because every team can afford to bid for free agents. I think as Redskins fans we'd still have a fair amount to look forward to if the salary cap ceases to exist. It would be a shame for the league, but the NFC East should return to the dominance seen in the 80s and 90s.

You don't think that if there was an uncapped season that the blockbuster deals that the Yankees strike to bring people like A-Rod to New York would also happen in the NFL? It would just get worse and worse until the average fan could no longer afford to go to a game.

It's expensive enough to make it to a football game and some of those salaries are no where near the level of professional baseball. I couldn't imagine the contracts. It might seem cool in the long-term and for the people who watch it on TV, but I try my hardest to make it to at least 3-4 Skins games a year and I don't want to spend 200 bucks a ticket to make it.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

As fans we WOULD have a lot to look forward to if you don't look at the big picture. I know the Redskins fall into the category of the "haves" but will we all be so happy if/when Dan steps aside and the Skins become the "have-nots".

Hopefully by that time we would have had 10 Super Bowl trophies in a row.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I personally do not want the cap to disappear. The cap makes seasons unpredictable and exciting. The NFL is the model sports league, so if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

People do realize that if the cap goes away and Gibbs leads us to more trophies, people will say, "yeah, but they only did it because they outspend everyone." I strongly believe that we can be a great franchise with the cap and I'd love to see Gibbs lead us to the promised land with the cap in place.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

You don't think that if there was an uncapped season that the blockbuster deals that the Yankees strike to bring people like A-Rod to New York would also happen in the NFL? It would just get worse and worse until the average fan could no longer afford to go to a game.

It's expensive enough to make it to a football game and some of those salaries are no where near the level of professional baseball. I couldn't imagine the contracts. It might seem cool in the long-term and for the people who watch it on TV, but I try my hardest to make it to at least 3-4 Skins games a year and I don't want to spend 200 bucks a ticket to make it.

Good point, didn't think of that. I don't go to games, I like watching on TV better. It probably will affect ticket prices.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

As fans we WOULD have a lot to look forward to if you don't look at the big picture. I know the Redskins fall into the category of the "haves" but will we all be so happy if/when Dan steps aside and the Skins become the "have-nots".

Hopefully by that time we would have had 10 Super Bowl trophies in a row.

Do you see Snyder selling the Skins? I could never see that in a million years, the franchise is a friggin cash cow. Especially if revenue sharing stays limited. He'll never sell the team as long as the market support is as good as it is.

Snyder's going to own them up until the day he dies just like Cooke did.

Secondly, who the owner is won't make a bit of difference. The market and the private stadium are the two biggest reasons why the franchise is raking in the money. That wouldn't change if a new owner came to town.

I'd MUCH prefer the cap stay in place, because as Ramseyfan says, people respect you more if you win without buying every stud in the game. And it makes the league much more exciting. I'm just doing my best to come to terms with the fact that the salary cap very well may be finished after this season. While that's a really bad thing for the NFL, I'm doing my best to look on the bright side, and at bare minimum we should still have a strong rivalry with the Cowboys, Giants, and Eagles; even if the smaller market teams will be at a disadvantage.

[Hog1]

Pre-salary cap, the NFL was great (not to say it is not good now). The NFC east was a dogfight every year (except for the stinking cardinals). the East was the dominant for many years...................it was GREAT.
It may have already been posted, but, as far as I know, my man Dan ponied up his own jack for land and stadium. That makes him signifigantly more invested than most other owners, as stadiums are mostly funded by cities. I don't know the details of the owners proposal, but all things cannot possibly be equal. It is beyond me how you can apply an equal equation for sharing?

[DCopper04]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

It's expensive enough to make it to a football game and some of those salaries are no where near the level of professional baseball. I couldn't imagine the contracts. It might seem cool in the long-term and for the people who watch it on TV, but I try my hardest to make it to at least 3-4 Skins games a year and I don't want to spend 200 bucks a ticket to make it.

This is a valid point, and I'm sure a lot of people are turned away from football games due to the already pricey tickets. But in reality, tickets cost much less right now than they should. The Skins have a waiting list of thousands of people wanting to get tickets. If Snyder charged the true market value, and eliminated the waiting list, tickets could probably be 3 times more expensive, and FedEx would still sell out every night. You could realistically say that right now we are spoiled by being able to get tickets far below their true value. If the cap goes away, ticket prices would definitely increase, but we shouldn't be unhappy that tickets would become more expensive, we should be happy that tickets remained (relatively) inexpensive for so long.

[Sean Taylor is God]

That is a great analysis but what about the rule of 51 that says the salaries of your highest 51 players must be in compliance by march 3rd. also your predictions for players willingness to prolong bonuses is a bit optimitstic. i think raymer is gone and so are hall and tupa. we should go young with frost and novak and after watching combine footage today we should be able to get a quality backup center late in the draft. where do your #'s come from cause one site i saw said if we trade ramsey we only save 1.4 mill.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Sean Taylor is God

That is a great analysis but what about the rule of 51 that says the salaries of your highest 51 players must be in compliance by march 3rd. also your predictions for players willingness to prolong bonuses is a bit optimitstic. i think raymer is gone and so are hall and tupa. we should go young with frost and novak and after watching combine footage today we should be able to get a quality backup center late in the draft. where do your #'s come from cause one site i saw said if we trade ramsey we only save 1.4 mill.

Unfortunately, $1.4 million is a lot. We have only two of three players (Harris, Bowen, and Noble) who would save us more by axing.