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Old 07-02-2017, 10:05 PM   #31
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obviously,they need to teach it to veterans.portis is not the only redskin this happened to,the same thing happened a few years ago to mark brunnell,which is why he stayed inthe league so long.
Veterans know it all already,some just don't listen.
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Re: Clinton Portis, great human being, contemplated murder after NFL Career

I echo the sentiments that you have to be a moron to lose this much money.

I don't know about the rest of you guys but we covered basic budgeting and the differences between savings accounts, bonds, stocks, mutual funds, all that stuff in high school.

Every adult should know there are safe vehicles to park your money. Once you've "made it", where someone has given you millions to sign a contract to play football, you should be looking to protect that nest egg, not put it at risk.

Assessing risk is just a matter of basic common sense. Sure it happens to veterans and rookies alike but I still think you have to be an idiot to let it happen to you.
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Old 07-03-2017, 10:12 AM   #33
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I echo the sentiments that you have to be a moron to lose this much money.

I don't know about the rest of you guys but we covered basic budgeting and the differences between savings accounts, bonds, stocks, mutual funds, all that stuff in high school.

Every adult should know there are safe vehicles to park your money. Once you've "made it", where someone has given you millions to sign a contract to play football, you should be looking to protect that nest egg, not put it at risk.

Assessing risk is just a matter of basic common sense. Sure it happens to veterans and rookies alike but I still think you have to be an idiot to let it happen to you.
I'm guessing that you come from a background different from Portis. It's easy for YOU to say this when you grew up on a different side of the railroads tracks then a lot of these guys. You can't put yourself in someone's shoes until you're actually in them.

I'm guessing you don't think Joe Gibbs is an idiot but he put himself and his family in a terrible situation as well.
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I'm guessing that you come from a background different from Portis. It's easy for YOU to say this when you grew up on a different side of the railroads tracks then a lot of these guys. You can't put yourself in someone's shoes until you're actually in them.

I'm guessing you don't think Joe Gibbs is an idiot but he put himself and his family in a terrible situation as well.
But there's a major difference between Gibbs and Portis, and you know it. Portis exposed his money to major downside risk after he was done playing. Meaning the golden goose was dead, he couldn't go back to the NFL to earn another big pay day, his prime was gone. He had a nest egg built up, and no significant skills to fall back on. Yet still exposed his money to great risk.

Gibbs was not in that position - as a coach he always knew he could get another head coaching job when he wanted. And proved it, by the way.

But I hear your point - the background matters. His lack of foresight here points to a) few strong role models in his life who showed him how to think critically and b) a straight up lack of intelligence that hampered his ability to do so independently. But at the same time, Portis went to college. He got tutored so he could stay eligible. He's been exposed to some smart people and no doubt has gotten strong guidance along the way, including advice made available through the NFL and NFLPA. Given those resources available to him I have a hard time understanding how he let this happen to him.
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Re: Clinton Portis, great human being, contemplated murder after NFL Career

Ultimately if I was given enormous amounts of money in my early 20s I think the impacts of my parents and how I raised would have blunted the impact of losing large amounts of wealth.

But I can say easily without that, I would have lived the rick James life in the Chappell show with about 50 baby mamas and cocaine would still be a hellavu drug.
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People from all walks of life make mistakes when it comes to money.
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But there's a major difference between Gibbs and Portis, and you know it. Portis exposed his money to major downside risk after he was done playing. Meaning the golden goose was dead, he couldn't go back to the NFL to earn another big pay day, his prime was gone. He had a nest egg built up, and no significant skills to fall back on. Yet still exposed his money to great risk.

Gibbs was not in that position - as a coach he always knew he could get another head coaching job when he wanted. And proved it, by the way.

But I hear your point - the background matters. His lack of foresight here points to a) few strong role models in his life who showed him how to think critically and b) a straight up lack of intelligence that hampered his ability to do so independently. But at the same time, Portis went to college. He got tutored so he could stay eligible. He's been exposed to some smart people and no doubt has gotten strong guidance along the way, including advice made available through the NFL and NFLPA. Given those resources available to him I have a hard time understanding how he let this happen to him.

As Matty said people from all different walks of life have made mistakes with money.You make it sound like just becuase he went to college he should have known better and I must correct you.I know a Rhodes scholar that went bankrupt.Wall street is full of dead bodies of people that should have known better what to do with their own money.
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If you have 10 million bucks and put it in a 1% savings account thats 100k in interest. Way more than i make in a year and very livable.

I don't get why athletes all feel the need to invest. Sit on that shit. Or at least a huge chunk of it.
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If you have 10 million bucks and put it in a 1% savings account thats 100k in interest. Way more than i make in a year and very livable.

I don't get why athletes all feel the need to invest. Sit on that shit. Or at least a huge chunk of it.
Many feel the need to help the people that help them achieve their goals,it's not hard to understand.Most professional athletes have a agent, manager,accountant,wife,kids,mother or grandmother or father they are taking care of and $100,000 grand won't cut it.Not hard to understand at all.
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Yes it is. It's very hard for me to understand. If you can understand it then you might be the idiot.
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Yes it is. It's very hard for me to understand. If you can understand it then you might be the idiot.
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Are you trying to tell me 70% of Earth's population aren't idiots? Because I sure as hell ain't buying that one.
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Many feel the need to help the people that help them achieve their goals,it's not hard to understand.Most professional athletes have a agent, manager,accountant,wife,kids,mother or grandmother or father they are taking care of and $100,000 grand won't cut it.Not hard to understand at all.
How much money are you giving these people every year? I also find it hard to understand. The 100k is just interest, doesn't even account for all the money you actually have plus future earnings that you can use for anything mentioned above without investing millions in something you have no clue about.
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How much money are you giving these people every year? I also find it hard to understand. The 100k is just interest, doesn't even account for all the money you actually have plus future earnings that you can use for anything mentioned above without investing millions in something you have no clue about.
You're the one that threw out the $100,000 in post #38.
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Are you trying to tell me 70% of Earth's population aren't idiots? Because I sure as hell ain't buying that one.

Not what it says ,so keep up.


All anyone is saying is that it's easier than you think to lose your money and even very smart educated people have lost it all. These people lost lots of money and all thought they were doing the right thing.


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The people that had their money here are so thought they had done the right thing......
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