2015 Draft Prospects... First Edition

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Hog1

According to Kevin and Thom, SD is offering Phillip Rivers and their first rounder for a top 5 pick this draft...
You in?

Yes please.

[Hog1]

Work out some details and..........
Hell Yes!!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I really like rivers, I'm a little torn just because I feel like I've seen this movie before. Unfortunately I think the Titans would probably be the team that offer would go too. Because we get the 17 pick along with rivers I would lean yes.

I hope you don't mean the McNabb trade, this is a completely different situation.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Rivers is in the last year of his contract, with a cap hit of $17.4 million dollars in 2015, so no unless he extends the contract

Renegotiate-and-trade. Happens all the time.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I hope you don't mean the McNabb trade, this is a completely different situation.

2 qbs, both 33 years old being trading away...let me emphasize being traded away...let me emphasize the San Diego Chargers are picking up the phone calling folks...both pro bowl, face of the franchise, both with decent success on the only team they've ever been on...come on, this doesn't seem familiar?

I love rivers, love the dude, but I have concerns. And i totally think he is a better passer than mcnabb ever was but still It's reasonable

You know it just pisses me the fuck off we can't fucking develop either one of the qbs we just drafted 3 years ago.

[Skinzman]

Philip Rivers to be Chargers' QB for foreseeable future - NFL.com

Wonder if the Chargers are being serious or just trying to inflate his value? I guess thats always the problem when a GM/team says something.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

2 qbs, both 33 years old being trading away...let me emphasize being traded away...let me emphasize the San Diego Chargers are picking up the phone calling folks...both pro bowl, face of the franchise, both with decent success on the only team they've ever been on...come on, this doesn't seem familiar?

I love rivers, love the dude, but I have concerns. And i totally think he is a better passer than mcnabb ever was but still It's reasonable

You know it just pisses me the fuck off we can't fucking develop either one of the qbs we just drafted 3 years ago.

McNabb had a bad year before being traded to us, Rivers had a terrific year without a lot of good receivers or a running game.

I think giving up our #5 for Rivers and their #17 is a big difference than giving up what we did for McNabb.

Dropping down to #17 gives us some options in getting players in areas of need (safety or OL) and getting Rivers gives the team the opportunity to develop some of our young o-linemen. Hell, if the team believes that much in Cousins, they can even develop him behind Rivers.

As with any trade, FA acquisition, and draft pick, there are always risks. And SD is blowing up their team and Rivers is not committing to them beyond this upcoming season due to the possible move to LA. Big difference than when the Iggles were trying to unload McNabb b/c they saw the writing on the wall for him.

[SirLK26]

I don't like this idea in so many ways.

First of all, the Chargers have a much better team, both offensively and defensively, than we do. Rivers almost certainly wouldn't be as successful here as in San Diego.

Second, the guy is 33 years old. How much longer is he really going to play at a high level? Someone pointed to Brady's longevity, but that's like saying that because Darrell Green played 'til he was 42 Hall can do the same. Poor argument. Of course, that was also the same guy that said Blanda retired at 65.

Third, there's the salary/contract issue. He has one year left on his current contract. Once that expires, are you really going to want to pay a declining 34 year old QB the kind of insane salaries QBs make these days? If he'd accept, you could sign him to more of an easily escapable year-to-year deal, but even then, what if he flops after a year or two? Then you're basically missing out on the best crop of edge rushers to come out in some time in exchange for a few years worth of good QB play that almost certainly won't get you to the playoffs anyway. Potentially elite pass rusher for the next 10 years or a QB who you may or may not get a few good years out of? Easy choice. Lotus mentioned a "renegotiate-and-trade", but what kind of salary is Rivers going to take if he knows he's coming to Washington? ( Also this.)

Finally, I though Scot was here to build up the team the "right way", through the draft. Then he trades the #5 overall pick for a declining 33 year old QB? Wat.

[Ruhskins]

I don't think we should go out of our way to get Rivers. But if the offer is right, we can get him without affecting our rebuilding so much.

Rivers has thrown for over 4,000 yds and over 30 TDs in the past two seasons, so he's far from declining.

I don't think getting Rivers will equal a winning season and playoff/SB run. But if we don't have to give up a lot, other than dropping from #5 to #17, we can have a QB that can make our offense decent and help our young players on the offense to develop (especially those in the OL).

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I don't think we should go out of our way to get Rivers. But if the offer is right, we can get him without affecting our rebuilding so much.

Rivers has thrown for over 4,000 yds and over 30 TDs in the past two seasons, so he's far from declining.

I don't think getting Rivers will equal a winning season and playoff/SB run. But if we don't have to give up a lot, other than dropping from #5 to #17, we can have a QB that can make our offense decent and help our young players on the offense to develop (especially those in the OL).

Why is San Diego moving on from him? Why is sd proactively trying to move rivers? Not very classy IMO

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I don't think we should go out of our way to get Rivers. But if the offer is right, we can get him without affecting our rebuilding so much.

Rivers has thrown for over 4,000 yds and over 30 TDs in the past two seasons, so he's far from declining.

I don't think getting Rivers will equal a winning season and playoff/SB run. But if we don't have to give up a lot, other than dropping from #5 to #17, we can have a QB that can make our offense decent and help our young players on the offense to develop (especially those in the OL).

I think Rivers and #17 is enough for #5. Also, I think it is possible that we could have a winning season in 2015 with him at QB. We have some very good receivers and a decent running game. With a good QB, we could put up a lot of points and win more close games and even shootouts.

One other thing that I don't think has been mentioned in regard to this is that having Rivers might just be enough to convince DJax (and possibly others) to stick around after next season.

If there is any truth to this rumor, then it could make the draft even more interesting.

[Chico23231]

I remember several years ago everybody was saying Rivers was done....

Ill say this: IM GOOD AS LONG AS SCOTT McC IS 100% BEHIND THIS MOVE AND SIGNS OFF ON IT

Because we all know what this would look like, another Snyder absolute shit move...another effing mistake at the hands of Snyder and his bs "yes" men in the FO. Persception is reality

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I think Rivers and #17 is enough for #5. Also, I think it is possible that we could have a winning season in 2015 with him at QB. We have some very good receivers and a decent running game. With a good QB, we could put up a lot of points and win more close games and even shootouts.

One other thing that I don't think has been mentioned in regard to this is that having Rivers might just be enough to convince DJax (and possibly others) to stick around after next season.

If there is any truth to this rumor, then it could make the draft even more interesting.

Throw a 2nd on there and then we can talk. (Possibly)

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I don't think we should go out of our way to get Rivers. But if the offer is right, we can get him without affecting our rebuilding so much.

Rivers has thrown for over 4,000 yds and over 30 TDs in the past two seasons, so he's far from declining.

I don't think getting Rivers will equal a winning season and playoff/SB run. But if we don't have to give up a lot, other than dropping from #5 to #17, we can have a QB that can make our offense decent and help our young players on the offense to develop (especially those in the OL).

This.

Rivers would not be a long-term solution. But, for the short term, we have no starting QB's at all and Rivers would fix this without setting us back too much.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I remember several years ago everybody was saying Rivers was done....

Ill say this: IM GOOD AS LONG AS SCOTT McC IS 100% BEHIND THIS MOVE AND SIGNS OFF ON IT

Because we all know what this would look like, another Snyder absolute shit move...another effing mistake at the hands of Snyder and his bs "yes" men in the FO. Persception is reality

Everyone is an idiot. Rivers is nowhere near done