Skins punt Groom

offiss · 09-26-2005, 01:27 PM

Groom is gone here comes Derrick Frost.

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=10630

SmootSmack · 09-26-2005, 01:28 PM

Guess I had reason to think they might

skinsguy · 09-26-2005, 01:30 PM

Wow....another example of us not settling for medicore play.

illdefined · 09-26-2005, 01:36 PM

wha?? jeez, did Groom cause a turnover too? i liked the guy, strong leg and nothing but room to grow. oh well, hope this guy is good?

JWsleep · 09-26-2005, 01:41 PM

Wow, good cal TAFKAS! Surprise to me, though I will say that as I watched games yesterday, I was very aware of how weak our special team play has been--other teams are pinning people and getting serious return yardage; we're really not.

Groom had a weak average and couldn't pin folks. There are lots of punters out there, so bye-bye. Wonder if this new guy wil be an improvment.

So, we've lost our punter, our PK, and our return man. We've got to fix that part of our game. Specials all but lost the Dallas game with that kickoff return. And field position is crucial--we've been playing on a long field all year, it seems. That affects playcalling and makes it harder to score points.

WOnder if Danny Smith makes it through the year? Who coached specials in Gibbs first tenure?

FRPLG · 09-26-2005, 01:57 PM

Wayne Severe(sp?) and he was good. Real good. One of the best.

That Guy · 09-26-2005, 02:06 PM

our ST's still stink... coverage is improved, i'm not sure danny is that great though.

This new guys average is a whopping 1 yard more, or 0.6yards more net average... i'm not sure its really much of an upgrade.

TheMalcolmConnection · 09-26-2005, 02:10 PM

Hm, I'm concerned about this punter turnover. It's going to be hard for our kickers to get used to new holders.

celts32 · 09-26-2005, 03:37 PM

I think they pulled the plug a little to soon...hopefully Groom does not turn into the punting equivilent of David Akers.

skinsguy · 09-26-2005, 03:56 PM

The guy was punting awesome in preseason - I know it was only preseason, but that shouldn't matter how he was kicking the ball. Problem is, he hasn't shown the same leg during the regular season.

illdefined · 09-26-2005, 04:02 PM

i dont get it, the Skins have gotten even more impatient as a team.

MTK · 09-26-2005, 04:34 PM

Groom was near the bottom of the league in punting, if you can't get it done you're outta here, I like the message the team is sending. Losing Tupa really hurt us.

dblanch66 · 09-26-2005, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Wayne Severe(sp?) and he was good. Real good. One of the best.

Unfortunately he can't coach from heaven. He died a few years back. Otherwise, he'd be back with the rest of the "Old Gang".

saskin · 09-26-2005, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Groom was near the bottom of the league in punting, if you can't get it done you're outta here, I like the message the team is sending. Losing Tupa really hurt us.

Yeah, I gotta agree with that. We need our players to perform as best as they can.

JWsleep · 09-26-2005, 07:02 PM

In Gibbs' press conference on skins.com today, he mentioned that Groom got a good role on a few, so that raised the average up some. Bottom line, Groom wasn't hitting it where he had to, either too short or out of the endzone. THere are lots of punters out there, so you gotta produce, especially if you are a rookie.

We'll see if this new guy is the answer, or the first of a number of auditioning players. Special teams can really help and it can really hurt. And with our offense, losing the field position game is a big problem.

(Guess that's why the call it the NFL--Not for long, if you kick like that!)

09-26-2005, 01:27 PM	#1
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Skins punt Groom Groom is gone here comes Derrick Frost. http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=10630

09-26-2005, 01:28 PM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Skins punt Groom Guess I had reason to think they might __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-26-2005, 01:30 PM	#3
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Skins punt Groom Wow....another example of us not settling for medicore play. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

09-26-2005, 01:36 PM	#4
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	Re: Skins punt Groom wha?? jeez, did Groom cause a turnover too? i liked the guy, strong leg and nothing but room to grow. oh well, hope this guy is good? __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

09-26-2005, 01:41 PM	#5
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Re: Skins punt Groom Wow, good cal TAFKAS! Surprise to me, though I will say that as I watched games yesterday, I was very aware of how weak our special team play has been--other teams are pinning people and getting serious return yardage; we're really not. Groom had a weak average and couldn't pin folks. There are lots of punters out there, so bye-bye. Wonder if this new guy wil be an improvment. So, we've lost our punter, our PK, and our return man. We've got to fix that part of our game. Specials all but lost the Dallas game with that kickoff return. And field position is crucial--we've been playing on a long field all year, it seems. That affects playcalling and makes it harder to score points. WOnder if Danny Smith makes it through the year? Who coached specials in Gibbs first tenure? __________________ Hail from Houston!

09-26-2005, 01:57 PM	#6
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Skins punt Groom Wayne Severe(sp?) and he was good. Real good. One of the best.

09-26-2005, 02:06 PM	#7
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,574	Re: Skins punt Groom our ST's still stink... coverage is improved, i'm not sure danny is that great though. This new guys average is a whopping 1 yard more, or 0.6yards more net average... i'm not sure its really much of an upgrade.

09-26-2005, 02:10 PM	#8
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,254	Re: Skins punt Groom Hm, I'm concerned about this punter turnover. It's going to be hard for our kickers to get used to new holders. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

09-26-2005, 03:37 PM	#9
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 53 Posts: 2,665	Re: Skins punt Groom I think they pulled the plug a little to soon...hopefully Groom does not turn into the punting equivilent of David Akers. __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

09-26-2005, 03:56 PM	#10
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Skins punt Groom The guy was punting awesome in preseason - I know it was only preseason, but that shouldn't matter how he was kicking the ball. Problem is, he hasn't shown the same leg during the regular season. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

09-26-2005, 04:02 PM	#11
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	Re: Skins punt Groom i dont get it, the Skins have gotten even more impatient as a team. __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

09-26-2005, 04:34 PM	#12
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,741	Re: Skins punt Groom Groom was near the bottom of the league in punting, if you can't get it done you're outta here, I like the message the team is sending. Losing Tupa really hurt us. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-26-2005, 07:02 PM	#15
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Re: Skins punt Groom In Gibbs' press conference on skins.com today, he mentioned that Groom got a good role on a few, so that raised the average up some. Bottom line, Groom wasn't hitting it where he had to, either too short or out of the endzone. THere are lots of punters out there, so you gotta produce, especially if you are a rookie. We'll see if this new guy is the answer, or the first of a number of auditioning players. Special teams can really help and it can really hurt. And with our offense, losing the field position game is a big problem. (Guess that's why the call it the NFL--Not for long, if you kick like that!) __________________ Hail from Houston!

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