Does 9-7 Get Us In?

[e16bball]

I've been doing some studying on the playoff picture, and the following is what I've come up with...

[e16bball]

We can get in at 9-7. Why, you might ask? Our conference record, I would answer.

If we win 4 out of the next 5 to go 9-7. our NFC record will be 9-3, thanks to losing all of our games to the AFC West.

Obviously it would be preferable to win out, but 9-7 can do it. Here's what needs to happen:

One of Dallas or the G-Men must go 2-3 the rest of the way, to end up at 9-7. Both of these COULD happen, as long as we beat the team who LOSES their matchup next week. Assume that the Cowboys lose, since it's at the Meadowlands. We then must beat the Cowboys at FedEx. Then, they would have to lose one more game of their remaining 3. Those games are vs. Kansas City, @Carolina, and vs. St. Louis. That, I believe, will happen. If we go 4-1 down the stretch and end up tying the Cowboys in this manner, we are the 2nd place team in the NFC East.

But what about the NFC South, you say? Here's what needs to go down. One of Carolina, Atlanta, and Tampa Bay must finish at 9-7. Carolina already has 8 wins, so I really doubt they end up 1-4 over the last 5. Thus, we'll have to concentrate on the Falcons and Bucs, both of whom would have to 2-3 or worse.

Here is the Falcons' schedule: @Carolina, vs. New Orleans, @Chicago, @Tampa Bay, vs. Carolina.

Here is the Bucs' schedule: @New Orleans, @Carolina, @New England, vs. Atlanta, New Orleans.

Either of those teams, in all honesty, could end up 9-7, or even worse. The only proviso is that if Tampa Bay is the 9-7 team, we also need Minnesota to be 9-7.

Why does it matter that teams get to 9-7? Because the number one tiebreaker (besides head-to-head) in wild card selection is conference record. And we will have the best conference record of any of these teams. As long as we aren't tied alone with Tampa Bay, we will win any tiebreaker.

To sum up...

ROOT FOR: Giants (against the Cowboys), Carolina (against ATL and TB), New Orleans (against everyone), Kansas City (against 'Boys and G-Men), Redskins (obviously), and Minnesota (to go 9-7).

ROOT AGAINST: Cowboys (also obviously), Tampa Bay, Atlanta.

[Beemnseven]

With the way they've been playing, I don't see them winning more than 2 games for the rest of the way -- Arizona and Philly. And their likely to drop one of those.

There's no other way to put it. This team is in freefall.

[e16bball]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

With the way they've been playing, I don't see them winning more than 2 games for the rest of the way -- Arizona and Philly. And their likely to drop one of those.

There's no other way to put it. This team is in freefall.

I just don't understand why you keep saying that. The Chargers are one of the best teams in football. It's not embarrassing to lose to them, regardless of circumstance. The Rams are NOT GOOD, why would we lose to them? They had to make a miracle comeback against the Texans, who are generally regarded as one of the worst teams ever. An absolute miracle. They were outplayed by the odds-on favorites to win the Reggie Bush sweepstakes. Sorry, but we won't lose that one.

Then we will beat the Cards, I agree. And we'll beat the Eagles, who yielded 100+ yards to Samkon Gado and barely snuck one out against the decimated Packers in their own house.

That means, to go 9-7, we only have to win one of the Giants/Cowboys games at FedEx. I'm not saying we will or we won't, but there's certainly a chance we do that.

[saskin]

Originally Posted by e16bball

I just don't understand why you keep saying that. The Chargers are one of the best teams in football. It's not embarrassing to lose to them, regardless of circumstance. The Rams are NOT GOOD, why would we lose to them? They had to make a miracle comeback against the Texans, who are generally regarded as one of the worst teams ever. An absolute miracle. They were outplayed by the odds-on favorites to win the Reggie Bush sweepstakes. Sorry, but we won't lose that one.

Then we will beat the Cards, I agree. And we'll beat the Eagles, who yielded 100+ yards to Samkon Gado and barely snuck one out against the decimated Packers in their own house.

That means, to go 9-7, we only have to win one of the Giants/Cowboys games at FedEx. I'm not saying we will or we won't, but there's certainly a chance we do that.

Everyone said Oakland wasn't good....and look what happened....in our house as well....

[bjschmonsees]

Originally Posted by Redskins88

Everyone said Oakland wasn't good....and look what happened....in our house as well....

So now everyone is saying the Redskins aren't good and will lose the rest of their games. Your own argument that they can't win proves they can win... Let's see what they do on the field...

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by e16bball

I just don't understand why you keep saying that. The Chargers are one of the best teams in football. It's not embarrassing to lose to them, regardless of circumstance. The Rams are NOT GOOD, why would we lose to them? They had to make a miracle comeback against the Texans, who are generally regarded as one of the worst teams ever. An absolute miracle. They were outplayed by the odds-on favorites to win the Reggie Bush sweepstakes. Sorry, but we won't lose that one.

Then we will beat the Cards, I agree. And we'll beat the Eagles, who yielded 100+ yards to Samkon Gado and barely snuck one out against the decimated Packers in their own house.

That means, to go 9-7, we only have to win one of the Giants/Cowboys games at FedEx. I'm not saying we will or we won't, but there's certainly a chance we do that.

We couldn't beat the sorry Raiders, at HOME!! what makes you think we can beat anybody on the road? the Rams will throw the ball all over the field against us. they have multiple weapons, bruce, holt, jackson, arizona has Fitzgerald, Boldin, Warner, who has been putting up some numbers. If we win one of those I would be suprised.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

With the way they've been playing, I don't see them winning more than 2 games for the rest of the way -- Arizona and Philly. And their likely to drop one of those.

There's no other way to put it. This team is in freefall.

AHHH, a fan that looks at the TRUE picture. We cant stop the pass, both St louis and Arizona have decent passing attacks. Arizona get Boldin back, OUCH

Giants and Cowboys are playing really good football. We could beat Dallas, but I dont see us beating the Giants and their offense, plus the defense is playing well. Maybe we beat Philly, but they didn't look bad the last game w/ Mcmann at QB. More plays for Westbrook, which he usually kills us.
Maybe two more wins, which let see, that puts us at 7-9 ANOTHER LOSING SEASON, As it is usually said around this year every year, we'll be better next year!! I will believe it when I see it

[VishsSkins]

Originally Posted by e16bball

We can get in at 9-7. Why, you might ask? Our conference record, I would answer.

If we win 4 out of the next 5 to go 9-7. our NFC record will be 9-3, thanks to losing all of our games to the AFC West.

Obviously it would be preferable to win out, but 9-7 can do it. Here's what needs to happen:

One of Dallas or the G-Men must go 2-3 the rest of the way, to end up at 9-7. Both of these COULD happen, as long as we beat the team who LOSES their matchup next week. Assume that the Cowboys lose, since it's at the Meadowlands. We then must beat the Cowboys at FedEx. Then, they would have to lose one more game of their remaining 3. Those games are vs. Kansas City, @Carolina, and vs. St. Louis. That, I believe, will happen. If we go 4-1 down the stretch and end up tying the Cowboys in this manner, we are the 2nd place team in the NFC East.

But what about the NFC South, you say? Here's what needs to go down. One of Carolina, Atlanta, and Tampa Bay must finish at 9-7. Carolina already has 8 wins, so I really doubt they end up 1-4 over the last 5. Thus, we'll have to concentrate on the Falcons and Bucs, both of whom would have to 2-3 or worse.

Here is the Falcons' schedule: @Carolina, vs. New Orleans, @Chicago, @Tampa Bay, vs. Carolina.

Here is the Bucs' schedule: @New Orleans, @Carolina, @New England, vs. Atlanta, New Orleans.

Either of those teams, in all honesty, could end up 9-7, or even worse. The only proviso is that if Tampa Bay is the 9-7 team, we also need Minnesota to be 9-7.

Why does it matter that teams get to 9-7? Because the number one tiebreaker (besides head-to-head) in wild card selection is conference record. And we will have the best conference record of any of these teams. As long as we aren't tied alone with Tampa Bay, we will win any tiebreaker.

To sum up...

ROOT FOR: Giants (against the Cowboys), Carolina (against ATL and TB), New Orleans (against everyone), Kansas City (against 'Boys and G-Men), Redskins (obviously), and Minnesota (to go 9-7).

ROOT AGAINST: Cowboys (also obviously), Tampa Bay, Atlanta.

These are good points. I was going over the playoff picture myself yesterday and pretty much came up with the same situations you listed. I am a little confused though about some of the things you said, like why we need Minnesota to get to 9-7 if Tampa ends up at 9-7. To try and clear things up, if we end up at 9-7, Tampa would have to be 8-8 since they beat us and therefore hold the tiebreaker. Since this is unlikely, they would get one of the wild card spots over us (assuming the panthers win the South). But even then, we can still get the final spot if the Falcons and either the giants or cowboys finish at 9-7, which, as you said, is not out of the question. Minnesota can finish 9-7 too and we would go over them but this is not necessary even if the Bucs go 9-7.

[dlwredskins]

HELLO I'm new to this site and I found your playoff senario very interesting....Wait I should introduce myself My name is Duane..been a skins fan since I was in first grade...I'm 33 now and no I'm no longer in first grade...lol....Anyway you just proved that we do have a snowball's chance in you know where of making it into the playoffs. I live in LA and traveled to DC to see them smack around the 49ers and I'll be in AZ to see them smack around Warner and the Cards (I hope) I was even planning to get the WE WANT DALLAS chant started but things look bleak...BUT I have another playoff possibility...that may be a bit easier...here goes
FIRST - WE NEED TO RUN THE TABLE AND HIT 10 - 6
SECOND - The Giants need to Blow 3 games (including against us in DC)
THIRD - The Cowboys need to Blow 2 games (including against us in DC)
That would give the Cowboys a record of 10 - 6 (we would have the season sweep and the tie breaker) The Giants would then go 9-7 (that gives us a game on them, and we could forget that nasty 36-0 thing) and by that scenario we take the division, and move into the playoffs as a division winner and we don't have to worry about the wildcard stuff that is much harder to come by with teams like the Vikings still in after a 4 game winning streak....That the deal I'm hoping for. HAIL REDSKINS!!!!!!!!!

[44deisel44]

Originally Posted by dlwredskins

HELLO I'm new to this site and I found your playoff senario very interesting....Wait I should introduce myself My name is Duane..been a skins fan since I was in first grade...I'm 33 now and no I'm no longer in first grade...lol....Anyway you just proved that we do have a snowball's chance in you know where of making it into the playoffs. I live in LA and traveled to DC to see them smack around the 49ers and I'll be in AZ to see them smack around Warner and the Cards (I hope) I was even planning to get the WE WANT DALLAS chant started but things look bleak...BUT I have another playoff possibility...that may be a bit easier...here goes
FIRST - WE NEED TO RUN THE TABLE AND HIT 10 - 6
SECOND - The Giants need to Blow 3 games (including against us in DC)
THIRD - The Cowboys need to Blow 2 games (including against us in DC)
That would give the Cowboys a record of 10 - 6 (we would have the season sweep and the tie breaker) The Giants would then go 9-7 (that gives us a game on them, and we could forget that nasty 36-0 thing) and by that scenario we take the division, and move into the playoffs as a division winner and we don't have to worry about the wildcard stuff that is much harder to come by with teams like the Vikings still in after a 4 game winning streak....That the deal I'm hoping for. HAIL REDSKINS!!!!!!!!!

We dont even need Giants to blow 3 if we win out, just lose to dallas and us then we have better div record. Oh yeah welcome...ill be in Tempe as well, vs Cardinals, behind skins bench....Ill chant with you!!!

[dlwredskins]

Originally Posted by 44deisel44

We dont even need Giants to blow 3 if we win out, just lose to dallas and us then we have better div record. Oh yeah welcome...ill be in Tempe as well, vs Cardinals, behind skins bench....Ill chant with you!!!

I will be sitting in the endzone with a group of at least 50 from XtremeRedskins.com...so if we get the chant started join in!!!! I even have a shirt I bought at Fed Ex Field that says on the front "The Rivalry Returns" and on the back the Redskins logo and under that "WE WANT DALLAS" This will be the third time I've gone to see the skin in Arizona...I'm 0-2 right now we lost in 98 with Trent Green and again in 2000 with Brad Johnson...We'll change that wil Brunell...hey e-mail me maybe I can say hello before I head to my seats dlwredskins@yahoo.com.
BTW I will be with a Buddy oddly enough he's a Charger Fan....but he's been instructed no cheering for anyone except the Redskins at the game. Thanks for the welcome!!!! HAIL REDSKINS!!!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by dlwredskins

HELLO I'm new to this site and I found your playoff senario very interesting....Wait I should introduce myself My name is Duane..been a skins fan since I was in first grade...I'm 33 now and no I'm no longer in first grade...

Congrats on making it to second grade!!!! Seriously though, welcome to the board. Good to have you here.

[Big C]

if we win out we should be able to win the division, and only need the giants and cowboys to lose one more game besides to us

[dlwredskins]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Congrats on making it to second grade!!!! Seriously though, welcome to the board. Good to have you here.

Thank you for your congrats on me making it to the second grade...lol thanks for the Welcome, and I see you have the Brunell Bandwagon name...well love Brunell wanted him from the Jags for a long time...The Jags were my DISTANT second team because of him.