Great Win, Just 1 Question Though

#56fanatic · 11-07-2005, 12:20 PM

It was a great win last night. The team faught until the end, and showed alot of heart. It was awestome to see everyone who played on the D side of the ball contributing. My question : Is anyone else concerned with our lack of ability to run the ball? Are we running the right plays for Portis?

#56fanatic · 11-07-2005, 12:24 PM

I thought our whole defensive team played an outstanding game. We limited there big weapon(westbrook) in check. and Donovan, who usually finds a way to kill us didn't really do much out of the pocket other than a couple of nice escapes. It looked like we were getting some push up the middle with basically our DE playing DT. I am just a bit worried with our inability to run the ball with any consistancy. We have to be able to run the ball better late in games and grind it out. Plus I dont think any of us want to see Brunell back there throwing the ball 35 times a game. He will start to get T'd off on. All in all, a great effort by the Skins, from top to bottom. Bring on the Bucs!!!

skin4Life28 · 11-07-2005, 12:25 PM

I think everyone should be concerned about not being able to run. We have played some really tough run defense's too. Doesn't get any easier this week either.

Daseal · 11-07-2005, 12:29 PM

I'm extremely concerned with two major facts and a few other ones.
1) The running game -- I don't think we're catering to Portis' strengths. I'd like to see more to the outside, or just something to get him going.
2) Turnovers. Every Punt/Kickoff has me nervous now. Cooley is starting to build a slight reputation, two weeks in a row. Fumbles hurt us, we have a -8 turnover ratio -- that's awful!

Good thing we got that pick at the end of the game or it coulda been rough!

#56fanatic · 11-07-2005, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I'm extremely concerned with two major facts and a few other ones.
1) The running game -- I don't think we're catering to Portis' strengths. I'd like to see more to the outside, or just something to get him going.
2) Turnovers. Every Punt/Kickoff has me nervous now. Cooley is starting to build a slight reputation, two weeks in a row. Fumbles hurt us, we have a -8 turnover ratio -- that's awful!

Good thing we got that pick at the end of the game or it coulda been rough!

In responce to the running game, I agree we need to maybe put some more sweeps, draws or cut backs. Portis does not have any room to run up the middle or between the tackles. If we do open up the run a little more with stretch plays, sweeps, those kinds of plays it may open things up for the between the tackle runs. Cooley generally is pretty good at keeping a good hold on the ball. I dont know if anyone would have been able to keep there hand on the ball with the hit that Dawkins put on him. He put his helmit right on the ball, even though Cooley had both arms rapped around it. Special teams, Why is the Hell is James "fair catch every punt" Thrash even returning punts. Yeah he is pretty sure handed, but man there were a couple of punts last night that he could of returned, but he called for the fair catch. If we have Jacobs, or Moss or somebody else that could make things happen for us we should put them back there. Granted you dont want Moss to get hurt, but If we have a team punting deep from their end of the field, we should take advantage of that and have somebody back there that will make our field position that much better. I say we pick and choose our spots with Moss(like Carolina and Steve Smith) and put him back there.

bopst · 11-07-2005, 12:31 PM

You just got to keep banging away with Portis & Betts. Wearing down a defense is just as important as a big gain....

MTK · 11-07-2005, 12:37 PM

Philly did a great job at stuffing the run, throw out last week that was a fluke.

We're still averaging almost 120 yards rushing per game. Still room for improvement obviously, but the running game isn't exactly a huge problem area.

Turnovers would be my main concern right now.

jbcjr14 · 11-07-2005, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

It was a great win last night. The team faught until the end, and showed alot of heart. It was awestome to see everyone who played on the D side of the ball contributing. My question : Is anyone else concerned with our lack of ability to run the ball? Are we running the right plays for Portis?

I thought we ran the ball well....remember, this is an Eagle defense that shut down the best runner in the game (LT to 9 frickin yards!!!!) two weeks ago. I thought the game plan was good and we won with good solid bend, don't break defense.

dblanch66 · 11-07-2005, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jbcjr14

I thought we ran the ball well....remember, this is an Eagle defense that shut down the best runner in the game (LT to 9 frickin yards!!!!) two weeks ago. I thought the game plan was good and we won with good solid bend, don't break defense.

Good point. LT is the best runner in the game.

That Guy · 11-07-2005, 01:13 PM

portis may be hurt, hence no outside running... he was bashing with dlinemen regularly last night. Either way, I wouldn't have taken him out with how well he was doing in the non-running game.

#56fanatic · 11-07-2005, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

portis may be hurt, hence no outside running... he was bashing with dlinemen regularly last night. Either way, I wouldn't have taken him out with how well he was doing in the non-running game.

No doubt Portis was all over the place last night. Blocking down field, picking up blitzes and the tackle on the fumble was absolutely HUGE. Best all around game of the year, I think, for him. I just wish we could see him get some holes and run like we all know he can in the open field.

skindogger47 · 11-07-2005, 06:18 PM

FINALLY, we ran a toss to Portis. Result? 8 yard gain. It's no coincidence, the guy is an awesome runner outside the tackles. What bugs me is that we run Betts outside all the time and Portis inside, when I think everyone can agree that it should be the other way around.

Beemnseven · 11-07-2005, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by skindogger47

FINALLY, we ran a toss to Portis. Result? 8 yard gain. It's no coincidence, the guy is an awesome runner outside the tackles. What bugs me is that we run Betts outside all the time and Portis inside, when I think everyone can agree that it should be the other way around.

By my count, there were three pitch-outs to Portis. The other two got no gains.

onsidekick · 11-07-2005, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

By my count, there were three pitch-outs to Portis. The other two got no gains.

One thing I think that has been overlooked about Portis this year is the weight he put on in the offseason. He intentionally beefed up to withstand the pounding like he took last year but does anyone think he has looked a step slower with his cuts since gaining the LBS? I think it helps a ton with pass protection and running up the middle but might have hurt just a little with his ability to break big runs.

Hail2em · 11-12-2005, 11:25 AM

Im concerned with the running game as well and i to think they should have running plays to portis strengths which is to the outside...it's obvious becuase he can pick his holes whereas you run him in the middle and hes got dancy feets and i hate that type of running. this is what i think. I think if they're going to run up the middle so much keep betts in the game because he's a better inside runner then portis. They go out an spend all this money for portis and dont use him to his strenghs and that's silly as hell and if we can't run the ball there's no shot of going far in the playoff..... point blank period.

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11-07-2005, 12:20 PM	#1
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 50 Posts: 1,801	Great Win, Just 1 Question Though It was a great win last night. The team faught until the end, and showed alot of heart. It was awestome to see everyone who played on the D side of the ball contributing. My question : Is anyone else concerned with our lack of ability to run the ball? Are we running the right plays for Portis?

11-07-2005, 12:24 PM	#2
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 50 Posts: 1,801	Re: Great Win, Just 1 Question Thought I thought our whole defensive team played an outstanding game. We limited there big weapon(westbrook) in check. and Donovan, who usually finds a way to kill us didn't really do much out of the pocket other than a couple of nice escapes. It looked like we were getting some push up the middle with basically our DE playing DT. I am just a bit worried with our inability to run the ball with any consistancy. We have to be able to run the ball better late in games and grind it out. Plus I dont think any of us want to see Brunell back there throwing the ball 35 times a game. He will start to get T'd off on. All in all, a great effort by the Skins, from top to bottom. Bring on the Bucs!!!

11-07-2005, 12:25 PM	#3
skin4Life28 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 38 Posts: 447	Re: Great Win, Just 1 Question Thought I think everyone should be concerned about not being able to run. We have played some really tough run defense's too. Doesn't get any easier this week either.

11-07-2005, 12:29 PM	#4
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Great Win, Just 1 Question Thought I'm extremely concerned with two major facts and a few other ones. 1) The running game -- I don't think we're catering to Portis' strengths. I'd like to see more to the outside, or just something to get him going. 2) Turnovers. Every Punt/Kickoff has me nervous now. Cooley is starting to build a slight reputation, two weeks in a row. Fumbles hurt us, we have a -8 turnover ratio -- that's awful! Good thing we got that pick at the end of the game or it coulda been rough! __________________ Best. Player. Available.

11-07-2005, 12:31 PM	#6
bopst Camp Scrub Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Richmond, Va. Posts: 3	Re: Great Win, Just 1 Question Thought You just got to keep banging away with Portis & Betts. Wearing down a defense is just as important as a big gain.... __________________ The Bopst Show Monday-Friday 1-4PM WCLM 1450 AM Richmond, Va. Live on the net: http://www.wclmradio.com

11-07-2005, 12:37 PM	#7
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,511	Re: Great Win, Just 1 Question Thought Philly did a great job at stuffing the run, throw out last week that was a fluke. We're still averaging almost 120 yards rushing per game. Still room for improvement obviously, but the running game isn't exactly a huge problem area. Turnovers would be my main concern right now.

11-07-2005, 01:13 PM	#10
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Great Win, Just 1 Question Thought portis may be hurt, hence no outside running... he was bashing with dlinemen regularly last night. Either way, I wouldn't have taken him out with how well he was doing in the non-running game.

11-07-2005, 06:18 PM	#12
skindogger47 Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 43 Posts: 262	Re: Great Win, Just 1 Question Thought FINALLY, we ran a toss to Portis. Result? 8 yard gain. It's no coincidence, the guy is an awesome runner outside the tackles. What bugs me is that we run Betts outside all the time and Portis inside, when I think everyone can agree that it should be the other way around.

11-12-2005, 11:25 AM	#15
Hail2em Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Va. Beach, Virginia Posts: 229	Re: Great Win, Just 1 Question Though Im concerned with the running game as well and i to think they should have running plays to portis strengths which is to the outside...it's obvious becuase he can pick his holes whereas you run him in the middle and hes got dancy feets and i hate that type of running. this is what i think. I think if they're going to run up the middle so much keep betts in the game because he's a better inside runner then portis. They go out an spend all this money for portis and dont use him to his strenghs and that's silly as hell and if we can't run the ball there's no shot of going far in the playoff..... point blank period. Skins fan 4 life!!

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