Who is starting at Q.B?

love them hogs · 04-18-2004, 04:42 PM

If it were up to me I would go with Ramsey.He has a strong arm and after all the hits he took last year he deserves the job.I will admit that Brunell makes better football decisions,but ramsey will pick it up in time.He just needs more than the two seconds he was getting last year to get rid of the ball.

Gmanc711 · 04-18-2004, 04:50 PM

I say let the best man win. I really hate, however, how NO - ONE is giving Ramsey even a half of chance to win the starting job. I mean its all Brunell this, Brunell that. If he is better, than he should be out there, no doubt. However, I dont think Ramsey is getting enough credit or chance. I wouldnt be shocked at all if #11 is our opening day qb.

Sammy Baugh Fan · 04-18-2004, 05:01 PM

I hope Patrick wins his job. That is one tough kid with a strong arm that kept getting up after being pounded, never complained and went back in like a Redskin. The kid has my respect and I hope he get his job fair and square.

peace

Daseal · 04-18-2004, 05:05 PM

Gibbs is infatuated with the veteran player. Ramsey has absolutly no chance at this job because he hasn't even gotten to practice with the full squad yet, which gave Brunell a huge head start.

I think the starting job should be given to Ramsey, Arrington said something that I really agreed with. He told reporters that the job wasn't Ramsey's to win, it was his to defend and that Brunell should have to show a whole lot before having Patrick's team given to him.

SKINSnCANES · 04-18-2004, 05:40 PM

I agree with Lavars statement. It should be Ramseys job to lose. Now if Ramsey doesnt heal and get on the field and practice then it should be Brunells. But its only been one camp, they have plenty of camps and practice to go. Ramsey will get his shot at the next camp, you know damn well that Gibbs is going to throw a lot at both of them and see how then react to it. Even more so, you better beleive that Williams is going to throw a bunch at both of them in terms of blitzes and schemes.

SKINSnCANES · 04-18-2004, 05:42 PM

I think if we draft Taylor then the edge will go to Brunell, Brunell will better be able to read defenses and make decisions with a better secondary out there. If we draft KWII then I see the edge going to Ramsey. Ramsey would love to have a hback to be able to dump the ball off to when hes getting blitzed. KWII would become his saving grace. Not that Brunell couldnt use KWII, but I saw Ramsey a lot last year looking for the underneath man to make the easier pass. Ramsey didnt have a lot of conifdence at the end of the year and a killer hback would help bring that confidence back.

skins009 · 04-18-2004, 06:31 PM

I think Ramsey will eventually win the job for one reason. One Ramsey is gonna be a star. This is very evident to me. If you compare him to the other two quaterbacks that were drafted before him two years ago there is no comparison in who has played better so far.
Secondly I think Brunnell in no good. I hope I am wrong.
Either was both quaterbacks best friend is gonna be Portis, he will be in enphasis of the offense for a while I think.

Daseal · 04-18-2004, 06:52 PM

Uhm, No offense and I love Ramsey, but I'd take David Carr if I had a choice.

offiss · 04-18-2004, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Uhm, No offense and I love Ramsey, but I'd take David Carr if I had a choice.

Not me.

SKINSnCANES · 04-18-2004, 07:17 PM

Carr is tough to, he broke the record for how many times he got sacked his rookie year, and he kept playing. Potentially his tougher than Ramsey. People dont give Carr the credit he deserves. Id still rather have Ramsey becausae hes been with us for two years now and I think learned a lot from Spurrier. The potential is there, I hope he gets the chance to show it.

Riggo44 · 04-19-2004, 01:39 PM

. Id still rather have Ramsey becausae hes been with us for two years now and I think learned a lot from Spurrier. The potential is there, I hope he gets the chance to show it.[/QUOTE]
What do you think SS taught him??? How to get sacked?? I think that Spurrier might have actually set him back!!! I love Ramsey but I don't know if he is ready to run Gibbs system. It's defiantly a luxury to have to quality QB's on our roster.

JWsleep · 04-19-2004, 02:33 PM

Well, Brunell has won some NFL playoff games, he's seen a lot of defenses, and he's won a number of regular season games. He hasn't won a SB or a conference championship, but he's won in the NFL for a long time. That's not chopped liver. I think Ramsey is the QB of the future, but my bet is the future isn't for a season or so. Playing for Spurrier is like playing in college, except you get hit by NFL linemen. We need to see how Ramsey plays in Gibbs offense. I'm sure he'll do great, but my guess is the transition will be easier for Brunell becuase of his experience.

I actually think both QBs are quite similar in this respect: They're hard working, humble good guys, and together, they'll make up the best one-two QB duo in the league. Is there a better one-two? It's a great luxury, and it will be an incredible asset, especially late in the year. Remember, neither QB finished the year last season. We need both.

Daseal · 04-18-2004, 07:49 PM

As of right now, I'd take Ramsey. But if I had my pick and knew each of their potentials right now. I'd draft Carr (provided he wasn't gone at #1!)

lifetimeskin · 04-18-2004, 08:01 PM

Right now I would take Brunnel. He has gone through many more battles. I can only think of 3 QB's that started in their rookie year, and were successful...Marino, Manning (and just barely), and McNabb. Generally it takes a few years to fully understand a pro offense, not even to mention understanding a defense. I believe that Ramsey is the future here, but I think sitting out a year or two would do wonders for his ability to read defenses.

Gmanc711 · 04-18-2004, 08:02 PM

David Carr is a great QB, but out of the three ( harrington, carr, ramsey ) Ramsey has outplayed both of hte other two, thers no question about it. I'm one of the biggest Harrington fans out there too, I really love the guy but Ramsey is better than him and Carr, at least right now.

04-18-2004, 05:01 PM	#3
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04-18-2004, 05:40 PM	#5
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	I agree with Lavars statement. It should be Ramseys job to lose. Now if Ramsey doesnt heal and get on the field and practice then it should be Brunells. But its only been one camp, they have plenty of camps and practice to go. Ramsey will get his shot at the next camp, you know damn well that Gibbs is going to throw a lot at both of them and see how then react to it. Even more so, you better beleive that Williams is going to throw a bunch at both of them in terms of blitzes and schemes. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

04-18-2004, 05:42 PM	#6
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	I think if we draft Taylor then the edge will go to Brunell, Brunell will better be able to read defenses and make decisions with a better secondary out there. If we draft KWII then I see the edge going to Ramsey. Ramsey would love to have a hback to be able to dump the ball off to when hes getting blitzed. KWII would become his saving grace. Not that Brunell couldnt use KWII, but I saw Ramsey a lot last year looking for the underneath man to make the easier pass. Ramsey didnt have a lot of conifdence at the end of the year and a killer hback would help bring that confidence back. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

04-18-2004, 07:17 PM	#10
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	Carr is tough to, he broke the record for how many times he got sacked his rookie year, and he kept playing. Potentially his tougher than Ramsey. People dont give Carr the credit he deserves. Id still rather have Ramsey becausae hes been with us for two years now and I think learned a lot from Spurrier. The potential is there, I hope he gets the chance to show it. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

04-19-2004, 02:33 PM	#12
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,714	Well, Brunell has won some NFL playoff games, he's seen a lot of defenses, and he's won a number of regular season games. He hasn't won a SB or a conference championship, but he's won in the NFL for a long time. That's not chopped liver. I think Ramsey is the QB of the future, but my bet is the future isn't for a season or so. Playing for Spurrier is like playing in college, except you get hit by NFL linemen. We need to see how Ramsey plays in Gibbs offense. I'm sure he'll do great, but my guess is the transition will be easier for Brunell becuase of his experience. I actually think both QBs are quite similar in this respect: They're hard working, humble good guys, and together, they'll make up the best one-two QB duo in the league. Is there a better one-two? It's a great luxury, and it will be an incredible asset, especially late in the year. Remember, neither QB finished the year last season. We need both. __________________ Hail from Houston!

04-18-2004, 04:42 PM	#1
love them hogs Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baltimore for now Age: 46 Posts: 235	Who is starting at Q.B? If it were up to me I would go with Ramsey.He has a strong arm and after all the hits he took last year he deserves the job.I will admit that Brunell makes better football decisions,but ramsey will pick it up in time.He just needs more than the two seconds he was getting last year to get rid of the ball. Last edited by love them hogs; 04-18-2004 at 10:35 PM.

04-18-2004, 04:50 PM	#2
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	I say let the best man win. I really hate, however, how NO - ONE is giving Ramsey even a half of chance to win the starting job. I mean its all Brunell this, Brunell that. If he is better, than he should be out there, no doubt. However, I dont think Ramsey is getting enough credit or chance. I wouldnt be shocked at all if #11 is our opening day qb.

04-18-2004, 05:05 PM	#4
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Gibbs is infatuated with the veteran player. Ramsey has absolutly no chance at this job because he hasn't even gotten to practice with the full squad yet, which gave Brunell a huge head start. I think the starting job should be given to Ramsey, Arrington said something that I really agreed with. He told reporters that the job wasn't Ramsey's to win, it was his to defend and that Brunell should have to show a whole lot before having Patrick's team given to him.

04-18-2004, 06:31 PM	#7
skins009 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 528	I think Ramsey will eventually win the job for one reason. One Ramsey is gonna be a star. This is very evident to me. If you compare him to the other two quaterbacks that were drafted before him two years ago there is no comparison in who has played better so far. Secondly I think Brunnell in no good. I hope I am wrong. Either was both quaterbacks best friend is gonna be Portis, he will be in enphasis of the offense for a while I think.

04-18-2004, 06:52 PM	#8
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Uhm, No offense and I love Ramsey, but I'd take David Carr if I had a choice.

04-19-2004, 01:39 PM	#11
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 51 Posts: 2,390	. Id still rather have Ramsey becausae hes been with us for two years now and I think learned a lot from Spurrier. The potential is there, I hope he gets the chance to show it.[/QUOTE] What do you think SS taught him??? How to get sacked?? I think that Spurrier might have actually set him back!!! I love Ramsey but I don't know if he is ready to run Gibbs system. It's defiantly a luxury to have to quality QB's on our roster. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

04-18-2004, 07:49 PM	#13
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	As of right now, I'd take Ramsey. But if I had my pick and knew each of their potentials right now. I'd draft Carr (provided he wasn't gone at #1!)

04-18-2004, 08:01 PM	#14
lifetimeskin Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 59 Posts: 84	Right now I would take Brunnel. He has gone through many more battles. I can only think of 3 QB's that started in their rookie year, and were successful...Marino, Manning (and just barely), and McNabb. Generally it takes a few years to fully understand a pro offense, not even to mention understanding a defense. I believe that Ramsey is the future here, but I think sitting out a year or two would do wonders for his ability to read defenses. __________________ ---lifetime skin

04-18-2004, 08:02 PM	#15
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	David Carr is a great QB, but out of the three ( harrington, carr, ramsey ) Ramsey has outplayed both of hte other two, thers no question about it. I'm one of the biggest Harrington fans out there too, I really love the guy but Ramsey is better than him and Carr, at least right now.

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