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Old 10-14-2005, 02:22 AM   #1
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Cornelius and Co

Is it me, or has Griffin been silent so far this year? I love what he did last year and thought he was robbed of a pro bowl bid, but it seems like I'm not hearing his name as much. Same with Daniels and Wynn. I know our ends are so-so but we're not getting a good push up the middle to put pressure on the QB. They've been solid on stopping the run (the 2 Bell runs were missed tackles by linebackers and db's) but maybe Ron Warner could get some more reps to rush the passer.
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Old 10-14-2005, 07:26 AM   #2
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yeah i haven't heard much from C. Griff either. Btw, on that first td run it was Daniels who missed a tackle, then Holdman, then Bell was free. I think Ron Warner was cut.
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Old 10-14-2005, 09:09 AM   #3
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warner's gone... i only saw holdman with a chance (at least the easiest chance) on the first run.
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Old 10-14-2005, 09:23 AM   #4
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I think that more people are doubling Griffin this year...
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Old 10-14-2005, 09:56 AM   #5
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I think that more people are doubling Griffin this year...
I see Griffin getting doubled constantly. It's a shame that we don't have someone next to him to take advantage of that.
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Old 10-14-2005, 12:24 PM   #6
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I see Griffin getting doubled constantly. It's a shame that we don't have someone next to him to take advantage of that.
Yeah. Maybe we miss Noble more than we thought.
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Old 10-14-2005, 12:31 PM   #7
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Yeah. Maybe we miss Noble more than we thought.
Noble had 14 tackles and 1 sack in 16 starts last year. I don't think he's the answer, but apparently, neither are any of our other DT's.
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Old 10-14-2005, 03:14 PM   #8
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Noble had 14 tackles and 1 sack in 16 starts last year. I don't think he's the answer, but apparently, neither are any of our other DT's.
I have to agree, Salavea is as good or better than Noble.

Regarding C. Griffen, he is fine. He is a great DT.
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Old 10-14-2005, 12:28 PM   #9
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Since Griffin is the only real threat on the front four, he's been picking up double teams all season. Wynn has never been much of a factor as far as rushing the passer, and someone needs to explain the mechanics of the defensive end position to Phillip Daniels.

I made a point to watch Daniels on almost every defensive snap last week, and the funny thing is, he gets a decent push. The problem is, all he does is push. He makes no attempt to get around the tackle whatsoever. I guess he doesn't realize that an offensive tackle is perfectly content with letting you push him all over the field, as long as he keeps you in front of him.
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Since Griffin is the only real threat on the front four, he's been picking up double teams all season. Wynn has never been much of a factor as far as rushing the passer, and someone needs to explain the mechanics of the defensive end position to Phillip Daniels.

I made a point to watch Daniels on almost every defensive snap last week, and the funny thing is, he gets a decent push. The problem is, all he does is push. He makes no attempt to get around the tackle whatsoever. I guess he doesn't realize that an offensive tackle is perfectly content with letting you push him all over the field, as long as he keeps you in front of him.
Thats not nececcarily true. Some schemes that don't have prevelant pass rushers, will assign their d-line to push the linemen into the back field to close of lanes of escape from the backfield. Daniels was the first to miss the tackle on bell, and I haven't seen much of him, but I'm not so sure its the line that has the problem. I think its a combination of no depth in the secondary, leaving packages out that would normally cause pressure, having a lack of physical dominance at linebacker. Washington will shed blocks, but I havent seen marshall or holdman do much of it.
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Old 10-15-2005, 10:36 AM   #11
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Noble had 14 tackles and 1 sack in 16 starts last year. I don't think he's the answer, but apparently, neither are any of our other DT's.
I disagree. Stats you can't find are how many times he was doubled or how many times he prevented CG from getting doubled. He was not here to get sacks - he was here to absorb blockers.
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Old 10-14-2005, 12:39 PM   #12
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why not use arrington as a D-end?
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Old 10-14-2005, 12:42 PM   #13
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why not use arrington as a D-end?
The coaching staff has the best players on the field at all times...


God, that was hard to say with a straight face.
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Old 10-14-2005, 12:49 PM   #14
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why not use arrington as a D-end?
why ask why
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why ask why
I think they try and use Daniels more as a run stopper and use the LB and corners to apply the pressure on the QB. Daniels is a good end that takes up space, like big Joe S. Problem is we aren't even getting pressure with our LB. Dont look for too much pressure from Marcus this week either. He will probably be matched up w/ Tony G most of the day. Taylor may get some blitzing plays this week. This would actually be a good week to see if LaVar can play. To use his speed and athletic ability to keep up with KCs offense. there offense is mostly on timing and if we can get a good speed rush, or some pressure up the middle we should be able to knock the receivers off their routes. We will definately need to stop the screen this week, which LaVar would be better at than Holdman. Holdman just gets pushed out of the way too much. Clemons may play a bigger role this week too, hes a pretty good pass rusher from the outside.
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