Skins vs Seasquawks Positive and Negatives

[Chico23231]

No moral victory for me.

Accountability in the front office. Folks, take a look at Seattle's starting roster vs ours, as you can see it is stacked with players taken in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th rounds all drafted within the team. Seattle been able to pic and develop their own talent far better than we have. Bruce, Scott Campbell, Doug Williams and scouts need to be held accountable now that we have moved away from the stupidity which the Snyder/Ceratto strategy of trade drafts picks and over pay POS. We should see better results, we are not. This was just an observation when watching last night.

Special teams still suck ass. Our coverage units are terrible and we cant tackle. They execute a fake punt and we cant execute a cute kickoff where Seattle was fully prepared for it. I do like our punter.

Did you see Seattle's tackling vs our own tackling? Its an embarrassment of bad angles and poor execution.

Dropped passes. Paulson to start the game, Roberts a huge drop and D Jax with 2 drops. pathetic.

The team look completely unprepared the 1st quarter. You are on primetime, Monday night, at home and had extra time from the "Thursday" bye and you come out looking like pussies and punks. Scared bitches. Thats an embarressment.

I dont know, I thought the defense played inspired after the 1st quarter, but th offense is inept. I thought Cousins got decent protection against a above average dline, but couldnt make plays.

We got to do something about the TE and Safety positions in the offseason. Its piss poor.

[donofriose]

Well the new coaching staff and supposedly "new" front office has a long way to go. It took Seattle a while to accumulate all there talent. It will probably take Washington a couple of years as well.

[skinsguy]

Eh...you know, everyone and their brother expected this game to be a carbon copy of the Giants game, and it was much closer than that. With all the backups in there, the 'skins still put up a pretty impressive effort. The offensive line continues to be my biggest complaint. One minute, the line can't protect the quarterback, the next minute it can't open holes for Alfred Morris. I stick with the idea that it starts with the offensive line, and outside of Williams, there is nobody on the line worth keeping around - especially that right side.

As always, I give the first year coach a pass. Gruden is going to have to have some time to develop his offense without having to deal with the plethora of injuries he's had to deal with so far. There's still plenty of time for the 'skins to turn the season around and at least improve upon what they did last year (which shouldn't take much effort.) Several of us predicted 6-10 and 7-9 by season's end. I'd say if the 'skins wind up somewhere around there, it's probably a pretty decent effort considering what all the 'skins have had to deal with this year.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Well the new coaching staff and supposedly "new" front office has a long way to go. It took Seattle a while to accumulate all there talent. It will probably take Washington a couple of years as well.

Seattle was a middle of the road team when Carroll took over and after the second year they really took off. We have much further to go than they did because we seem to lack an identity. Our FO and coaches seem to switch styles back and forth decreasing continuity. B Mitch yesterday said what makes the Giants the best team in the division consistently is their continuity, their team dynamics don't change styles too much going way back to the 80s (maybe even further?) just the names change.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Seattle was a middle of the road team when Carroll took over and after the second year they really took off. We have much further to go than they did because we seem to lack an identity. Our FO and coaches seem to switch styles back and forth decreasing continuity. B Mitch yesterday said what makes the Giants the best team in the division consistently is their continuity, their team dynamics don't change styles too much going way back to the 80s (maybe even further?) just the names change.

YES! The cap penalty is a killer. 36 million worth of talent isn't going to appear as soon as it's lifted.

The FO has has done a good job finding bandaids (shorter term contracts) in free agency. Hatcher, Jackson, Roberts. (I like Roberts for the long run, he is good and won't break the bank)

The penalty killed our depth. Early injuries this season have exposed our lack of depth.

I believe Gruden and BA will begin to aquire talent similar to what he had in Cincinatti. It isn't going to happen overnight.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

YES! The cap penalty is a killer. 36 million worth of talent isn't going to appear as soon as it's lifted.

Yeah, Mara and Lurie and the other owners, really screwed us. Cheating m-f'ers.

As far as the Haynesworth contract goes, Vinny Cerratto really screwed us over on that too. Wonder if that d-bag knew he would be gone, by the time that contract really bit us in the ***.

[gregkthompson]

Didnt fisnish the game, but the just of it. We def need to work on some defense. They couldnt keep the QB in the pocket, and when he was out of the pocket, he was getting 1st downs every time you turned around.

Second, the Offense. Im not even sure RG3 could fix it. It was like watching small fish swim through the holes in a big net. We have some serious work to do and we def aint gonna fix it this season.

[Chico23231]

Line of Scrimage folks, Seattle owned it last night.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Line of Scrimage folks, Seattle owned it last night.

Pretty much sums it up. They're so much better in the trenches than we are. Also I think we all saw why Polumbus is the starter. Moses isn't anywhere near ready. He'll get the QB killed if he has to play.

[Ruhskins]

Only positive I would say would be seeing DJax score on the Legion of Boom.

Offense was horrible though and failed to come through at key times. Defense was okay despite what people think. Though no defense is going to look good with a bad offense.

[Coff]

Negatives: Not going for it on fourth and short deep in Seahawk territory, then immediately trying an onside kick after the field goal. What kind of asinine reasoning is that? To beat a team like Seattle, the Skins need to take risks, but in that case they took the wrong one. I can reluctantly agree with the decision to kick the FG (though that smacks of a team trying to lose by fewer points rather than trying to win), but to then try an onside kick with the league's worst special teams unit makes no sense.

And as we have seen so many times, when the defense is called upon to make a late fourth quarter stop, they allow a long drive that ends in points. Just once I'd like to see the defense come up with a stop in that situation.

All that aside, it was nice to see the team keep fighting and turn this into a game. On the heels of last week's debacle, things looked like they were about to get ugly quick on the first drive. The guys really hung in there and fought it out. I think conventional wisdom would say that if our starters were healthier, we would have played better. But sometimes there's something to be said about the additional effort you're going to get from guys who are out to prove they are more than backups, and I think we saw some of that spirit from the defense.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Coff

Negatives: Not going for it on fourth and short deep in Seahawk territory, then immediately trying an onside kick after the field goal. What kind of asinine reasoning is that? To beat a team like Seattle, the Skins need to take risks, but in that case they took the wrong one. I can reluctantly agree with the decision to kick the FG (though that smacks of a team trying to lose by fewer points rather than trying to win), but to then try an onside kick with the league's worst special teams unit makes no sense.

And as we have seen so many times, when the defense is called upon to make a late fourth quarter stop, they allow a long drive that ends in points. Just once I'd like to see the defense come up with a stop in that situation.

All that aside, it was nice to see the team keep fighting and turn this into a game. On the heels of last week's debacle, things looked like they were about to get ugly quick on the first drive. The guys really hung in there and fought it out. I think conventional wisdom would say that if our starters were healthier, we would have played better. But sometimes there's something to be said about the additional effort you're going to get from guys who are out to prove they are more than backups, and I think we saw some of that spirit from the defense.

I agree in the fight. Team looked more inspired in the second especially on defense. Id like to see Cousins or Alfmo get a little more angry on offense...get pissed when someone drops a pass or whiffs on a block. The offense line needs more nasty on it.

[Bushead]

It's clear that the skins need to get lots of players. I think when Orakpo walks (someone is going to over pay him and we see he isn't worth that kind of money) that will give them some room to do some signings, but it's time to spend high draft pics on Lineman. Both sides.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Bushead

It's clear that the skins need to get lots of players. I think when Orakpo walks (someone is going to over pay him and we see he isn't worth that kind of money) that will give them some room to do some signings, but it's time to spend high draft pics on Lineman. Both sides.

Yeah I've given a pass on Rak so far this year, no mas. 12 million dollars and now he is making excuses in the media? No I dont want to hear it. I dont see Trent Murphy as the answer next year, he was reach in the draft and needs work.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Yeah I've given a pass on Rak so far this year, no mas. 12 million dollars and now he is making excuses in the media? No I dont want to hear it. I dont see Trent Murphy as the answer next year, he was reach in the draft and needs work.

Yup. I liked Rak, but it is time to put up or shut up. He's a good solid OLB. Not a game-changer. He will tough to replace. Not sure Murphy is good enough, but he doesn't have to be an all-pro. Just solid. That's what Rak is.