Skins vs Packers post game thread

[skinsfaninok]

well 0-2, It's a big difference than last year for this team so far, can they turn it around???

Will our d be historically bad?

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

well 0-2, It's a big difference than last year for this team so far, can they turn it around???

Will our d be historically bad?

Not so much the D but the offense is historically bad.

If the offense could get rolling I think if we didn't win games, they'd at least be competitive.

For the life of me, I don't understand why they've got the handcuffs on RG3. He's a terrible pocket passer and when he is paying attention to the pocket, he looks constantly paranoid. They need to be using rollouts, bootlegs and for the love of God, get rid of that horrible toss play and use the read option.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Not so much the D but the offense is historically bad.

If the offense could get rolling I think if we didn't win games, they'd at least be competitive.

For the life of me, I don't understand why they've got the handcuffs on RG3. He's a terrible pocket passer and when he is paying attention to the pocket, he looks constantly paranoid. They need to be using rollouts, bootlegs and for the love of God, get rid of that horrible toss play and use the read option.

I think the defense is historically bad, when a 5 - 10 yard reception turns into 15 or more yards. It's because the tackling is historically bad.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I think the defense is historically bad, when a 5 - 10 yard reception turns into 15 or more yards. It's because the tackling is historically bad.

They started out good though. We had them held for their first, what.. 2 or 3 series? But after 2 horrible punts and 3 and outs, this defense isn't good enough to keep holding them all game.

Our defense is like a... C/C+ type of team. Our front and line backers are decent and our secondary is drop dead terrible.

To balance that out your offense has got to be no less than a B- and we're playing a D level right now. They're putting an awful lot of pressure on our defense with no let up. The D can only keep it close but for so long.

[skinsfan69]

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1025830]Not so much the D but the offense is historically bad.

If the offense could get rolling I think if we didn't win games, they'd at least be competitive.

For the life of me, I don't understand why they've got the handcuffs on RG3. He's a terrible pocket passer and when he is paying attention to the pocket, he looks constantly paranoid. They need to be using rollouts, bootlegs and for the love of God, get rid of that horrible toss play and use the read option.[/

If a QB that we gave 2 fist rounds picks for can't play from the pocket then we blew that trade. Personally I don't think he's a "terrible" QB in the pocket, but he will never be Aaron Rodgers....and the price we paid paid to get him, he needs to be that guy.

And someone here compared RG3 to Warren Moon? Really? You're talking about one of the best pure ever.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

And someone here compared RG3 to Warren Moon? Really? You're talking about one of the best pure ever.

I did and I 100% stand by it, get a HC and OC that understand how to run an NFL offense and you'll see RG3 excel. Lose the Read-Option crap, run a Pats/Saints type O and use the entire field and you will see RG3 put up consistent HoF numbers.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

I did and I 100% stand by it, get a HC and OC that understand how to run an NFL offense and you'll see RG3 excel. Lose the Read-Option crap, run a Pats/Saints type O and use the entire field and you will see RG3 put up consistent HoF numbers.

If Warren Moon had been drafted in the 70's, like he should have been, he would most likely had every passing record there is. Sorry, RG3 does not have the passing ability that Warren Moon had. End of discussion.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If Warren Moon had been drafted in the 70's, like he should have been, he would most likely had every passing record there is. Sorry, RG3 does not have the passing ability that Warren Moon had. End of discussion.

Obviously only time will tell, but I'm not the only one who has compared RG3 to a HoF QB:

NFL - Bill Polian - Why RG3 is a prototypical QB - ESPN

Keep in mind in RG3's senior season at Baylor he completed over 72% of his passes and thru his first few games in 2011 had more TDs than incompletions. Even in the RO offense last year he completed 65% of his passes for a 102 QB rating.

Different eras of course, but Moon's completion % was over 60% in only 6 yrs. of his NFL career. RG3 has all the physical and mental tools to be every bit the passer Moon was.....it remains to be seen if Allen & Snyder can see how his growth as a passer is being stunted by MS/KS.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

I did and I 100% stand by it, get a HC and OC that understand how to run an NFL offense and you'll see RG3 excel. Lose the Read-Option crap, run a Pats/Saints type O and use the entire field and you will see RG3 put up consistent HoF numbers.

RG would be a monster paired with those coaches. There's lots of coaches that would maximize his potential WITHOUT also making him a human piñata. Anyone who's experienced with a spread style like NO and certainly anyone who's shown the ability to mold scheme around personnel: Darth Hoody, Harbough brothers, Pete Carol, Jon fox. Who else?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by The Goat

RG would be a monster paired with those coaches. There's lots of coaches that would maximize his potential WITHOUT also making him a human piñata. Anyone who's experienced with a spread style like NO and certainly anyone who's shown the ability to mold scheme around personnel: Darth Hoody, Harbough brothers, Pete Carol, Jon fox. Who else?

I like what Coach Sumlin has done at A&M, he's gone head-to-head with Bama two years in a row....granted and untimely Bama fumble helped A&M greatly on Sat., but still a great job by Sumlin at A&M.

Jim Mora's doing some good things at UCLA and may be looking to get back into the NFL. Both his OC & DC have NFL experience and are key to UCLA's revival.

[Ruhskins]

No defense is going to play well when the opposing teams controls the time of possession for three quarters.

[CrustyRedskin]

This thread could have been started hours ago.

[HailGreen28]

I wonder why RG3 doesn't look like the guy who won OROY?

I don't think it's the Shanahan's fault, unless you blame them for listening to their QB and others. In which case they may be damned if they do, same if they don't.

[skinsfaninok]

I actually don't think Robert is a horrible pocket passer but it definitely looks as if he won't be running much this season

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I actually don't think Robert is a horrible pocket passer but it definitely looks as if he won't be running much this season

The league fined us for being coy about injuries before. If he's still hurt, the Shannys and others should get hit up.

So is RG3 100% physically, or not?