Dr. Andrews Using Stem Cells to Speed Recovery??

[SkinsGuru]

Interesting . . . It is believed that Dr. Andrews injected stem cells into the injured area of RGIII's knee . . .

Source (HogsHaven):

For the past three years, however, Andrews has been experimenting with a new strategy. "Stem cells," he says. "What we call biologics. They're on their way, and that will be a transformational event." Very quietly -- "We don't advertise it," Andrews says, "and we don't want to sensationalize it" -- he and his colleagues at clinics in Birmingham, Ala., and Gulf Breeze, Fla., have been performing stem cell injections on professional athletes. He won't name names, but Andrews has mostly employed stem cells in the deteriorated knees of football players, and virtually all of them have reported significant decreases in pain and inflammation. "It's early," he says, "but the results have been remarkable."

very interesting for sure . . . hopefully RGIII's recovery allow Dr. Andrews to continue to use the term remarkable when discussing how the stem cells helped speed his recovery!!

[firstdown]

Nothing I just read said anything about him injecting RGIII's knee with stem cells.

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Nothing I juet read said anything about him injecting RGIII's need with stem cells.

so you read the article in which he says he has been using stem cells to speed the recovery of his patients for 3 years, but that means to you that he chose not to do so in RGIII ??? Also see the question marks in the thread title . . . this is because while it was assumed he did, he did not straight out say that!!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

so you read the article in which he says he has been using stem cells to speed the recovery of his patients for 3 years, but that means to you that he chose not to do so in RGIII ??? Also see the question marks in the thread title . . . this is because while it was assumed he did, he did not straight out say that!!

Your reading more of what the author of the article was saying then what the DR actually said. He could be but you stated in your post that "The Dr HAS INJECTED stem cells into his knee".

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Nothing I juet read said anything about him injecting RGIII's need with stem cells.

Your spell checker sucks red baboon a$$.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Nothing I just read said anything about him injecting RGIII's knee with stem cells.

You're right, this does need to be said. Nowhere does the article, or any other piece of journalism, say that RG3 had stem cells injected into his knee.

But I'm comfortable assuming that he did. I'd be willing to bet that's how Adrian Peterson came back so well.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

You're right, this does need to be said. Nowhere does the article, or any other piece of journalism, say that RG3 had stem cells injected into his knee.

But I'm comfortable assuming that he did. I'd be willing to bet that's how Adrian Peterson came back so well.

Yeah wouldn't surprise me at all either if that's the case.

The wonders of modern medicine.

[CultBrennan59]

Manning did it to his neck going to Europe, he came back looking as good as ever. I think this is the new break through in medicine.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Manning did it to his neck going to Europe, he came back looking as good as ever. I think this is the new break through in medicine.

Manning did not play football for about a year after he had it done and the reports are not clear if it worked.

[Daseal]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

Interesting . . . Dr. Andrews injected stem cells into the injured area of RGIII's knee . . .

Source (HogsHaven):



very interesting for sure . . . hopefully RGIII's recovery allow Dr. Andrews to continue to use the term remarkable when discussing how the stem cells helped speed his recovery!!

They seem to be controversial, but I think they really will change medicine forever once they really start to gain momentum (likely in Europe first.) Hopefully they can help rebuild RGKnee.

[Lotus]

It is striking how opposed some people are to stem cell research despite the obvious benefits of stem cell medicine. Hence the need for hush hush on this.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Lotus

It is striking how opposed some people are to stem cell research despite the obvious benefits of stem cell medicine. Hence the need for hush hush on this.

Whats stiking is that you would question why some people are opposed to embryonic stem cell research - whether you agree with their point of view or not.

There was arguably scientific benefit to the horrific research the nazis did experimenting on prisoners in WWII. I hate to use such a extreme comparison to prove a point, as no rational person would equate what the nazis did to embryonic stem cell research, but the underlying principle is the same - Scientists can't just perform research because of the potential benefits. Ethical concerns should be weighed against potential benefits in any type of research.

The reasons many peope oppose research using embryonic stem cells are obvious. Whether you agree with their point of view is entirely another matter, and its entirely reasonable for a person to have no problems with embryonic stem cell research.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Whats stiking is that you would question why some people are opposed to embryonic stem cell research - whether you agree with their point of view or not.

There was arguably scientific benefit to the horrific research the nazis did experimenting on prisoners in WWII. I hate to use such a extreme comparison to prove a point, as no rational person would equate what the nazis did to embryonic stem cell research, but the underlying principle is the same - Scientists can't just perform research because of the potential benefits. Ethical concerns should be weighed against potential benefits in any type of research.

The reasons many peope oppose research using embryonic stem cells are obvious. Whether you agree with their point of view is entirely another matter, and its entirely reasonable for a person to have no problems with embryonic stem cell research.

Just for clarity, nothing in this article or thread was talking about embryonic stem cells except your post.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Just for clarity, nothing in this article or thread was talking about embryonic stem cells except your post.

Just for clarity my response was to Lotus' post, which in turn was a comment on other peoples comments indicating opposition to "stem cell research."

No sane person is opposed to "stem cell research." SOME PEOPLE are opposed to EMBRYONIC stem cell research for ethical reasons. That is the context of my post. It wasnt a rant on stem cell research by someone who didnt read the article, because i did read the article.

The purpose of my post was to explain why SOME PEOPLE are opposed to EMBRYONIC stem cell research -a distinction Lotus didnt make in his post by just referring to "stem cell research" in the general sense. The distinction is important.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Whats stiking is that you would question why some people are opposed to embryonic stem cell research - whether you agree with their point of view or not.

There was arguably scientific benefit to the horrific research the nazis did experimenting on prisoners in WWII. I hate to use such a extreme comparison to prove a point, as no rational person would equate what the nazis did to embryonic stem cell research, but the underlying principle is the same - Scientists can't just perform research because of the potential benefits. Ethical concerns should be weighed against potential benefits in any type of research.

The reasons many peope oppose research using embryonic stem cells are obvious. Whether you agree with their point of view is entirely another matter, and its entirely reasonable for a person to have no problems with embryonic stem cell research.

Of course scientific research must follow ethical paths. There is no question in that. The question is, which ethics? The ethical stance which conflates stem cell research with abortion issues? Or the ethical stance which holds that healing people is a central good, so stem cell research should be expanded?

It seems to me that RGIII's case is an example which teaches that we should be expanding stem cell research of various types rather than being, as a society, so squeamish about stem cells. Just my opinion.