What is RG3 worth to us?

SkinItup · 12-30-2011, 08:48 PM

So in response to the Andrew Luck thread, What if any thing are you willing to give up to get RG3?

I like RG3 and think he could be a star at the next level, but with that said, I don't think he is worth trading away any future 1st round picks for. He is worth a high pick based on potential, not current performance.

He could prove to be better prospect thorough the draft process but as of now I wont give more than 2012 1st and 4th to trade up for him.

SkinzWin · 12-30-2011, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinItup

So in response to the Andrew Luck thread, What if any thing are you willing to give up to get RG3?

I like RG3 and think he could be a star at the next level, but with that said, I don't think he is worth trading away any future 1st round picks for. He is worth a high pick based on potential, not current performance.

He could prove to be better prospect thorough the draft process but as of now I wont give more than 2012 1st and 4th to trade up for him.

But unless the Redskins change their offense to fit his style of play, which I do not believe they will do, is it worth giving up that much for a player who may not even been the best possible choice at QB for the offensive system we run? I don't think so.

Landry44 · 01-01-2012, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinzWin

But unless the Redskins change their offense to fit his style of play, which I do not believe they will do, is it worth giving up that much for a player who may not even been the best possible choice at QB for the offensive system we run? I don't think so.

What makes you think that we would have to change our scheme to fit his skill set? He he's smart, mobile, and accurate with short, intermediate, and deep passes. What exactly would we have to change?

skinsfan57 · 01-01-2012, 08:21 PM

I think the redskins are in good shape to draft RGIII if he comes out.they will pick #6 and other than Luck going #1 to colts,the other teams ahead of us don't need a QB.

NYCskinfan82 · 01-01-2012, 08:37 PM

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I think the redskins are in good shape to draft RGIII if he comes out.they will pick #6 and other than Luck going #1 to colts,the other teams ahead of us don't need a QB.

Please remember other teams can trade up and the browns might be looking for a QB.

skinsguy · 01-02-2012, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinzWin

But unless the Redskins change their offense to fit his style of play, which I do not believe they will do, is it worth giving up that much for a player who may not even been the best possible choice at QB for the offensive system we run? I don't think so.

This right here says it all. I think RG III goes to a team that brings in a new offensive system at the same time, and one with a head coach/offensive coordinator who's willing to build that new offense around RG III's strengths. I don't think you have that in Washington.

GusFrerotte · 12-30-2011, 11:36 PM

Hey listen, the QB position is very, very deep this draft. If RG III is gone by the time our pick comes we have plenty of guys there to still consider. I think this stuff about focusing on one guy as our savior is a big mistake. An even bigger one is giving up draft picks for a guy who may be a bust in the NFL, and that goes for any QB prospect, including Luck. We are very lean depthwise on defense and linemen. Giving up picks to fill those needs is dumb. Luck or RG III or whomever we land is going to suck if our line isn't upgraded.

Big C · 12-31-2011, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Hey listen, the QB position is very, very deep this draft. If RG III is gone by the time our pick comes we have plenty of guys there to still consider.

i disagree. i do not think there is much top-end talent at qb in this draft. landry jones had a very bad end to the season and may not come out this year. RG3 may not even come out. at this point, there may only be 2 1st round qbs assuming RG3 comes out. thats not depth. if we miss on luck and rg3, we will likely be waiting til round 2 to get a qb, and tannehill doesnt wow me either. foles could be an option but again not much of a wow prospect either.

diehard · 12-31-2011, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Hey listen, the QB position is very, very deep this draft. If RG III is gone by the time our pick comes we have plenty of guys there to still consider. I think this stuff about focusing on one guy as our savior is a big mistake. An even bigger one is giving up draft picks for a guy who may be a bust in the NFL, and that goes for any QB prospect, including Luck. We are very lean depthwise on defense and linemen. Giving up picks to fill those needs is dumb. Luck or RG III or whomever we land is going to suck if our line isn't upgraded.

I feel you Gus' but, the depth of quality QBs in any draft, in any round is scarce. Luck, RGIII, Jones, or Tannehill may not even turn out to be the QB-star of the draft. So, in my oinion it's not worth giving up too much to get any one player. Sure, if the Skins nee to manuver up with their second pick or down with their first pick that's understandable

redskin29633 · 12-31-2011, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinItup

So in response to the Andrew Luck thread, What if any thing are you willing to give up to get RG3?

I like RG3 and think he could be a star at the next level, but with that said, I don't think he is worth trading away any future 1st round picks for. He is worth a high pick based on potential, not current performance.

He could prove to be better prospect thorough the draft process but as of now I wont give more than 2012 1st and 4th to trade up for him.

I would give up nothing to get him. Redskins should dump Beck, notwithstanding the $1,000,000 we owe him for 2012. We should re-sign Grossman; also sign Hoyer, Quinn, Henne, or another comparable FA QB. Let Grossman and Hoyer/Quinn/Henne compete for the starting job. That strategy should result in improved play at the QB position. Then get the best QB we can when our turn comes in the draft and groom him for the future. The goal should be to make the team better, and by making the QB position better that will happen. We could all wait "forever" for the next franchise QB; there are no guarantees that RGIII, or even Luck, would be that special guy. Just get better at QB and continue improving the team is the best strategy.

skinsfan69 · 12-31-2011, 10:34 AM

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I would give up nothing to get him. Redskins should dump Beck, notwithstanding the $1,000,000 we owe him for 2012. We should re-sign Grossman; also sign Hoyer, Quinn, Henne, or another comparable FA QB. Let Grossman and Hoyer/Quinn/Henne compete for the starting job. That strategy should result in improved play at the QB position. Then get the best QB we can when our turn comes in the draft and groom him for the future. The goal should be to make the team better, and by making the QB position better that will happen. We could all wait "forever" for the next franchise QB; there are no guarantees that RGIII, or even Luck, would be that special guy. Just get better at QB and continue improving the team is the best strategy.

Are you serious? Brady Quinn? He can't even beat out Orton. Henne? Average. You want to see more of Grossman and his 2-3 turnovers a game? Hoyer is unknown. We need a baller.

Carnage · 12-31-2011, 02:37 PM

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Are you serious? Brady Quinn? He can't even beat out Orton. Henne? Average. You want to see more of Grossman and his 2-3 turnovers a game? Hoyer is unknown. We need a baller.

Brady DID beat out Orton, thats why he is currently a Bronco and Orton is not.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-31-2011, 03:10 PM

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Brady DID beat out Orton, thats why he is currently a Bronco and Orton is not.

You sure that's why Orton isn't in Denver??

CultBrennan59 · 12-31-2011, 02:50 AM

RG3 isn't worth but maybe a third and possibly a fourth from where we'll be drafting and where he'll be going (maybe a future 2nd). But he isn't the can't miss prospect that Andrew Luck is. Andrew Luck has been talked about for almost 3 years now; RG3 just got talked about this year, as a possible top 15 pick. He's a great player, but athletes like RG3 come out from year to year, QB's with great size, intelligence, speed, system like luck don't come out but once every 25 years.

Chico23231 · 12-31-2011, 09:28 AM

If we have the ability to jump a couple spots ahead of Cleveland to get him, by all means do it. Tremendous upside and ability. send a 3rd to Jacksonville for a couple spots and nab him

01-01-2012, 08:21 PM	#4
skinsfan57 Camp Scrub Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Herndon,Virginia Posts: 83	Re: What is RG3 worth to us? I think the redskins are in good shape to draft RGIII if he comes out.they will pick #6 and other than Luck going #1 to colts,the other teams ahead of us don't need a QB.

12-30-2011, 11:36 PM	#7
GusFrerotte Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 4,153	Re: What is RG3 worth to us? Hey listen, the QB position is very, very deep this draft. If RG III is gone by the time our pick comes we have plenty of guys there to still consider. I think this stuff about focusing on one guy as our savior is a big mistake. An even bigger one is giving up draft picks for a guy who may be a bust in the NFL, and that goes for any QB prospect, including Luck. We are very lean depthwise on defense and linemen. Giving up picks to fill those needs is dumb. Luck or RG III or whomever we land is going to suck if our line isn't upgraded.

12-31-2011, 02:50 AM	#14
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,526	Re: What is RG3 worth to us? RG3 isn't worth but maybe a third and possibly a fourth from where we'll be drafting and where he'll be going (maybe a future 2nd). But he isn't the can't miss prospect that Andrew Luck is. Andrew Luck has been talked about for almost 3 years now; RG3 just got talked about this year, as a possible top 15 pick. He's a great player, but athletes like RG3 come out from year to year, QB's with great size, intelligence, speed, system like luck don't come out but once every 25 years. __________________ "Anyones better than Madieu Williams"

12-31-2011, 09:28 AM	#15
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,419	Re: What is RG3 worth to us? If we have the ability to jump a couple spots ahead of Cleveland to get him, by all means do it. Tremendous upside and ability. send a 3rd to Jacksonville for a couple spots and nab him __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

12-30-2011, 08:48 PM	#1
SkinItup Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 155	What is RG3 worth to us? So in response to the Andrew Luck thread, What if any thing are you willing to give up to get RG3? I like RG3 and think he could be a star at the next level, but with that said, I don't think he is worth trading away any future 1st round picks for. He is worth a high pick based on potential, not current performance. He could prove to be better prospect thorough the draft process but as of now I wont give more than 2012 1st and 4th to trade up for him.

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