WSH v.s. JAX game analysis

[GridIron26]

Since GTripp will not be breaking down the game and next, I thought that maybe we all could throw in our 'analysis' and discuss..

Trent Williams played pretty good most of the game, except for that last play before OT. I'm not sure if we can say for other O-line men though, because Torain had few negative plays.. Cooley, he had like 4 drops.. Granted he caught everything in 4th quarter, but come on you must do well every quarter.

I'm surprised at our defense, that we held Jax's rushing to under 80 yards. Yes, I know MJD didn't play, but still. Barnes played good, but Macho didn't. We definitely need an upgrade on FS, probably through FA.. At last, Rogers held onto the ball?!

[SkinzWin]

From what I saw we might, MIGHT, have some young talent to take a look at next year. Barnes did play well as did Buchanon. Bryant played well again at the NT position for a second straight game. I was really really impressed with Rob Jackson. I thought for a converted DL, he played very well at the OLB position. He had a sack and a couple other highlight reel plays. I would like to give him a hard look next year. Maybe there is some hope for some of this young talent.

I mean to go into a road game against an 8-6 teams playing for a playoff spot and shut down their offense like they did with the patchwork defense we had, with no Orakpo, was really good IMO. We had what 4 plays signed off the practice squad this week play or start for us today? Impressive.

[Beemnseven]

I just wonder about the offense. Why can't they score 30 points when they don't need to? Is it a mental thing? Seems like they only score a lot of points when there's a shootout. Same thing goes when they're in the 2-minute drill like we saw against Tampa Bay. Only when the game is on the line does the offense wake up and play with intensity.

If the other team is struggling offensively, as we saw today, it's practically a given that the Skins will struggle too.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I just wonder about the offense. Why can't they score 30 points when they don't need to? Is it a mental thing? Seems like they only score a lot of points when there's a shootout. Same thing goes when they're in the 2-minute drill like we saw against Tampa Bay. Only when the game is on the line does the offense wake up and play with intensity.

If the other team is struggling offensively, as we saw today, it's practically a given that the Skins will struggle too.

Well, the playcalling was quite flaky for almost three quarters. Lots of passes and very few runs. Then Kyle decides to finally call a few runs when our backs are against the wall. That's when we scored.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Well, the playcalling was quite flaky for almost three quarters. Lots of passes and very few runs. Then Kyle decides to finally call a few runs when our backs are against the wall. That's when we scored.

Yep.. I think me and you were on the same page that game SCP. I was saying the whole game I didn't like the playcalling for the 1st 3Q. Don't qoute me, but it seemed like Kyle was trying "to hard" to prove the Rex is the man to run this offense, and in doing that. He actaully made it harder for Rex to get into a rythem, and get the offense into motion.

I don't think they are spelling Torain enough either. I understand he wasn't getting enough carries so he didn't want to come out, but when the man is running 22 yards in 2 plays, and it takes him forever to get back to the huddle, and get off the turf. He should let Keliand get in there a few more times.

I have confidence in both of those backs now that they;ve had the experience. I wouldn't mind seeing Portis, Torain, Williams in the RB rotation coming into camp. not specifically in that order.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Yep.. I think me and you were on the same page that game SCP. I was saying the whole game I didn't like the playcalling for the 1st 3Q. Don't qoute me, but it seemed like Kyle was trying "to hard" to prove the Rex is the man to run this offense, and in doing that. He actaully made it harder for Rex to get into a rythem, and get the offense into motion.

I don't think they are spelling Torain enough either. I understand he wasn't getting enough carries so he didn't want to come out, but when the man is running 22 yards in 2 plays, and it takes him forever to get back to the huddle, and get off the turf. He should let Keliand get in there a few more times.

I have confidence in both of those backs now that they;ve had the experience. I wouldn't mind seeing Portis, Torain, Williams in the RB rotation coming into camp. not specifically in that order.

I still can't help but wonder if Kyle is also still "stuck" in Houston where Andre Johnson really could allow him to call pass after pass with little punishment. After all, that Grossman INT for Moss would had a better chance at being a TD if AJohnson was running that route instead of S. Moss

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Yep.. I think me and you were on the same page that game SCP. I was saying the whole game I didn't like the playcalling for the 1st 3Q. Don't qoute me, but it seemed like Kyle was trying "to hard" to prove the Rex is the man to run this offense, and in doing that. He actaully made it harder for Rex to get into a rythem, and get the offense into motion.

I don't think they are spelling Torain enough either. I understand he wasn't getting enough carries so he didn't want to come out, but when the man is running 22 yards in 2 plays, and it takes him forever to get back to the huddle, and get off the turf. He should let Keliand get in there a few more times.

I have confidence in both of those backs now that they;ve had the experience. I wouldn't mind seeing Portis, Torain, Williams in the RB rotation coming into camp. not specifically in that order.

I thought Torain should have been spelled more with Williams also.And whats up with Cooley,he's dropped several passes this yr and now 4 today? You should have 4 in a season,not 1 game.I love Cooley,but its time to either trade him or give Davis the starting nod.And back to Kyle,Ive said it before and I'm gonna say it again,it was a mistake to hire him in the first place,Mike's not gonna let his son be the fallguy,it will always be someone elses fault.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I thought Torain should have been spelled more with Williams also.And whats up with Cooley,he's dropped several passes this yr and now 4 today? You should have 4 in a season,not 1 game.I love Cooley,but its time to either trade him or give Davis the starting nod.And back to Kyle,Ive said it before and I'm gonna say it again,it was a mistake to hire him in the first place,Mike's not gonna let his son be the fallguy,it will always be someone elses fault.

I hate to agree, but I do.. Cooley is the man and my favorite Redskin, but if we can get soem value from him like a 2nd rounder then I wouldn't mind seeing Fred Davis take the role.

It's not like we are running the 2 TE's sets that we dreamed of here. I've only seend them in short yardage situations. Paulsen was played well as a blocker, and catcher in the situations he's put in.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I thought Torain should have been spelled more with Williams also.And whats up with Cooley,he's dropped several passes this yr and now 4 today? You should have 4 in a season,not 1 game.I love Cooley,but its time to either trade him or give Davis the starting nod.And back to Kyle,Ive said it before and I'm gonna say it again,it was a mistake to hire him in the first place,Mike's not gonna let his son be the fallguy,it will always be someone elses fault.

yeah those dropsies started last year.. it's freaking contagious it seems

first we blamed it on JC being too hot on short passes, then this.. then that.. Cooley's gotta catch the damn ball, TEs shouldn't be known for drops

love the guy but Davis is probably the better option now

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I just wonder about the offense. Why can't they score 30 points when they don't need to? Is it a mental thing? Seems like they only score a lot of points when there's a shootout. Same thing goes when they're in the 2-minute drill like we saw against Tampa Bay. Only when the game is on the line does the offense wake up and play with intensity.

If the other team is struggling offensively, as we saw today, it's practically a given that the Skins will struggle too.

I think tempo is a big deal. Look around the league for the good offenses and they all have such a quick tempo to them. The plays come in quickly and they get out of the huddle fast (or they no-huddle). The Qb gets up and switches protection and then snap and the play is over. Do it all over again. When we pick our tempo back up we seem to execute better too.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I just wonder about the offense. Why can't they score 30 points when they don't need to? Is it a mental thing? Seems like they only score a lot of points when there's a shootout. Same thing goes when they're in the 2-minute drill like we saw against Tampa Bay. Only when the game is on the line does the offense wake up and play with intensity.

If the other team is struggling offensively, as we saw today, it's practically a given that the Skins will struggle too.

We can only score against bad defenses.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I just wonder about the offense. Why can't they score 30 points when they don't need to? Is it a mental thing? Seems like they only score a lot of points when there's a shootout. Same thing goes when they're in the 2-minute drill like we saw against Tampa Bay. Only when the game is on the line does the offense wake up and play with intensity.

If the other team is struggling offensively, as we saw today, it's practically a given that the Skins will struggle too.

Yeah I wonder about same thing.. Grossman didn't look like a starter material in this game.. I really hope we will bring in a good competitor for Grossman.. We gotta love how Torain pounds the defense, it would be nice to have a different style of RB for a change of pace next season..

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[skinsfaninok]

CC isn't going anywhere I think Davis will be gone.. Maybe for a 3rd. I wouldn't mind trading Chris if we can get a 2nd but I don't see that happening.

[diehard]

This is a good team as it is now. Barnes should have been in competition for FS from the jump. Is he better at FS than he is at CB? I like Alexander, Jackson, and Wilson at LB. There appeared to be few (2) break downs on the DL. I was really surprised of that especially considering Golston was out. OL and DL both are probably one starter away from being really good. I said it before, Grossman leaves something to be desired. Maybe his INTs have made me nervous about him. He's patient in the pocket but, lives a little dangerously outside of it, taking forever to decide when to throw it away. A change of pace RB would make a difference. Moss can still play, Armstrong has value but, another starter-caliber WR needs to brought into the mix. Whichever TE has more trade value won't be missed. Paulsen is a legit #2. Not that Rodgers or Buchanon are totally bad, they both have their supreme weaknesses, but, a true cover corner needs to be brought into the mix. Without the Shanahan-shenanigans (McNabb and Haynesworth) this team doesn't seem far away from competing. Keep Kyle and Haslett.

[Beemnseven]

Defensively, in the secondary, there were too many passes completed over the middle. That's on Barnes and Macho Harris. Harris probably won't be here. Barnes likely comes back and gets a chance to prove himself.

There was a nice highlight reel on Philip Buchanon during the game, he had a nice game.