Is the new Redskins Front Office Gun Shy?

[diehardskin2982]

Like a person with a powerful weapon scared to use, is the new Front Office Gun shy? Has Bruce Allen and Shanny been overly patient or doing the right thing in the uncapped year? Discuss your view of the moves made so far or lack of...

[Pocket$ $traight]

I am trying not to come across as too much of a dick but isn't this thread just a tad bit of an overreaction?

We cut 10 guys out of the gate which doesn't seem like a "gunshy" move. We have had at least 6 guys in and signed one. We have also signed several of our own.

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I am trying not to come across as too much of a dick but isn't this thread just a tad bit of an overreaction?

We cut 10 guys out of the gate which doesn't seem like a "gunshy" move. We have had at least 6 guys in and signed one. We have also signed several of our own.

I wasn't accusing them... rather playing devils advocate and raising the discussion

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I am trying not to come across as too much of a dick but isn't this thread just a tad bit of an overreaction?

We cut 10 guys out of the gate which doesn't seem like a "gunshy" move. We have had at least 6 guys in and signed one. We have also signed several of our own.

Sometimes it's good to be gun shy. Pull the trigger and the outcome can change a lot of things for a long time.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Sometimes it's good to be gun shy. Pull the trigger and the outcome can change a lot of things for a long time.

Just ask Plaxico.

Thoughtful choices and discretion are a good thing for DS to be seeing. I especially hope that he will learn from this experience how to keep this franchise solid for the next 40 years, not just under MS/BA.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Agreed. We are making moves. Just we as redskins fans don't know how to have patience when it comes to fa.

[takethecake]

Plus there are still a lot of guys out there still that I think the skins are definitely interested in. I'm curious to know how larry foote's visit to washington tonight went... I'd be ecstatic if we signed him. I agree with pocketsstraight, this seems like a bit of an overreaction...

[Redskins8588]

Someone, Schneed or CC, correct me if I am wrong, but even though this year is an uncapped year, and sure it is more likely than not that next year there will be a strike or shortened season. However, many don't realize that when this thing settles there will be a salary cap again. So why spend like there is no tomorrow when no one knows what tomorrow holds? I mean why spend all that money for one season and then almost totally explode the team to get under the cap again...

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Someone, Schneed or CC, correct me if I am wrong, but even though this year is an uncapped year, and sure it is more likely than not that next year there will be a strike or shortened season. However, many don't realize that when this thing settles there will be a salary cap again. So why spend like there is no tomorrow when no one knows what tomorrow holds? I mean why spend all that money for one season and then almost totally explode the team to get under the cap again...

I would also add that it's not just about the cap. We may think Snyder has bottomless pockets but it's not secret that some of his ventures (6 flags e.g.) have not been doing well. I'm sure revenue at the stadium was down this year.

It looks like they have a plan, which entails a budget that Allen has set w/the Danny's blessing. As the Peter King article mentions, Allen didn't want to spend too much or get impulsive in free agency. I like it so far, sign players that are w/in your budget parameters rather than trying to outbid for 1 or 2 guys then having to restructure every year, etc.

If Vinny were still here I don't know if Peppers would be a skin, but I bet Clifton & Pashos would be. We would've overpaid for both to try & get the quick fix of the o line.

[over the mountain]

[QUOTE=freddyg12;671422]I would also add that it's not just about the cap. We may think Snyder has bottomless pockets but it's not secret that some of his ventures (6 flags e.g.) have not been doing well. I'm sure revenue at the stadium was down this year.

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this is what im wondering too. the DS paid a boat of money last year just to go 4-12. now, with no floor and no expectation of winning, he can go 4-12 for half the price.

if we are not going to be a contender for the SB this year, why spend millions on band-aid players like clifton, pashos, etc.

us signing or not signing chad clifton will have very little impact on whether we are contending for a SB 2 years from now. imo.

while i would have liked dansby here, he got paid more than i would have given up for a 100 tackle no turnover ILB.

so far, the FO gets a thumbs up from me.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I would also add that it's not just about the cap. We may think Snyder has bottomless pockets but it's not secret that some of his ventures (6 flags e.g.) have not been doing well. I'm sure revenue at the stadium was down this year.

It looks like they have a plan, which entails a budget that Allen has set w/the Danny's blessing. As the Peter King article mentions, Allen didn't want to spend too much or get impulsive in free agency. I like it so far, sign players that are w/in your budget parameters rather than trying to outbid for 1 or 2 guys then having to restructure every year, etc.

If Vinny were still here I don't know if Peppers would be a skin, but I bet Clifton & Pashos would be. We would've overpaid for both to try & get the quick fix of the o line.

6 flags and everything else are separate entities. The Redskins are #1 in revenue and operating income. There is no way that Snyder would allow other businesses that may be struggling affect the Redskins.

The Redskins currently have the 4th lowest payroll. Does anyone want to bet me a beer (or two)that we aren't in the top 5-10 in the league by the time the season starts?

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight;671570[B

]6 flags and everything else are separate entities. The Redskins are #1 in revenue and operating income. There is no way that Snyder would allow other businesses that may be struggling affect the Redskins. [/B]
The Redskins currently have the 4th lowest payroll. Does anyone want to bet me a beer (or two)that we aren't in the top 5-10 in the league by the time the season starts?

Yeah we are not ABC.

[12thMan]

I'm with you Pocket. People are totally overreacting and want the Redskins to sign every two-bit free agent available. I like this approach and the reality is we're not going to address every need in this free agency period or this draft. It just isn't going to happen.

This front office is taking a very measured, systematic, and (emotionally) detached approach to building the roster. If Jason Campbell steps up his game just a little and we add one good offensive lineman, I think the pieces are in place for a serious playoff run. You have to figure the difference in coaching alone will net us at least 3 games.

Breathe guys, breathe...

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'm with you Pocket. People are totally overreacting and want the Redskins to sign every two-bit free agent available. I like this approach and the reality is we're not going to address every need in this free agency period or this draft. It just isn't going to happen.

This front office is taking a very measured, systematic, and (emotionally) detached approach to building the roster. If Jason Campbell steps up his game just a little and we add one good offensive lineman, I think the pieces are in place for a serious playoff run. You have to figure the difference in coaching alone will net us at least 3 games.

Breathe guys, breathe...

Good post 12thMan...I'm in total agreement with your assessment relevant to the difference this coachng staff will make. When I look back at how competitive we were in most games last year save for a few bad breaks here and there, we could easily have been at least an 8-8 team.

It's just encouraging to see a FO structure with a plan as opposed to a fix. The time has come when all the (good fit's) as we love to refer to them as, will have to fit someplace else. Vinny is gone, hopefully to never return.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Good post 12thMan...I'm in total agreement with your assessment relevant to the difference this coachng staff will make. When I look back at how competitive we were in most games last year save for a few bad breaks here and there, we could easily have been at least an 8-8 team.

It's just encouraging to see a FO structure with a plan as opposed to a fix. The time has come when all the (good fit's) as we love to refer to them as, will have to fit someplace else. Vinny is gone, hopefully to never return.

Pretty much. Even though we finished 4-12, I too think we're probably more like an 8-8 team. That's the great deception with this squad, we're really not that bad.

And as it's been stated here as well as other threads, there weren't a ton of quality free agents out there, unless you're giving up a top tier pick. Take the Bears for instance, they're not rebuilding they're trying to save face and a few asses.

Two people, among a few others, that I feel will be key to how far we go this year will Jason Campbell, for obvious reasons, and Levi Jones. He's the big wild card I'm counting on. If this guy can kill it in training camp and just become NFL starting material, I think we're on our way. Chad Rinehart, eh? I don't know, he should improve but I'm counting on Levi to step up more than Chad, although I'd be happy with either doing a good job.