Training Camp Getaway

Longtimefan · 01-08-2010, 09:36 PM

This may not be a topic everyone cannot relate to from a comparison standpoint because I don't know how many of you have had the opportunity to visit Redskin Park for Training Camp. I would actually like for everyone to weigh-in and express your views as to whether or not you think getting away to an unfamiliar environment has advantages over remaining local and dealing with the many distractions that present themselves primarily the result of being so closely surrounded by the local fan base.

During Shanahan's Press Conference he took a moment to speak about his preference, based on his response to a reporters question I think it's safe to say if he had his way, he would choose to get away. He touched on how getting away had played an important role in his success.

Personally, through the years I've had the pleasure of visiting Training Camp in both Carlisle Pa. as well as Frostburg Md. The experience was memorable in both places but my fondest memories are of Carlisle because we spent so much time there. I like Shanahan, have always felt that for that period of time called Training Camp teams need as few distractions as possible. Getting away from the friendly confines of Redskin Park in Ashburn Va. absent much of the local media, family and friends to a place where they can properly train, condition, bond and focus as a unit is extremely important and instrumental as well to the coming together of a team.

I don't know if it was the the players, the coaches, or the point in time, but to me the approach to the seasons following Training Camp in Ashburn as compared to the other two places where Camp has been conducted has been so dissimilar.

Discuss the pros and cons of how you feel about Training Camp being conducted locally, or in a more distant location.

53Fan · 01-09-2010, 12:29 AM

I never had the pleasure of going to any of those places but to hear former players talk about it, it was a great bonding experience. I think to do it the way it used to be done is a good idea. I think it helps to build a feeling of "Team". Any time you can do that it's a positive.

Hog1 · 01-09-2010, 12:39 AM

In building the NEW team culture, it is important to break with the past.......
Back to Carlisle!!

Monkeydad · 01-11-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

In building the NEW team culture, it is important to break with the past.......
Back to Carlisle!!

I'd LOVE that, because I live near Carlisle!

My wife wants to take me to Fan Day in Ashburn this year anyways, but I'd be there all the time if back in Carlisle.

I've never been to any training camp events yet. This must change.

It's been in Shanny's mind at least.

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firstdown · 01-11-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

In building the NEW team culture, it is important to break with the past.......
Back to Carlisle!!

Well isn't Carlisle part of the past?

Longtimefan · 01-11-2010, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Well isn't Carlisle part of the past?

It is indeed firstdown, and the intriguing part of it is, it' a glorious link, one contrary to what we've witnessed for the past decade.

Our new GM Bruce Allen has an affinity for Carlisle, it being the birthplace of his history of association with the Redskins. When I get things up and running, I have some pictures of Bruce Allen playing catch with Billy Kilmer before practice when he was a young teen-ager. It's my wish to be able to up-load them to the site.

I guess we don't know if this talk about moving Training Camp is going to amount to anything, maybe it will (if not this year) then sometime in the near future it will become a topic of more discussion.

I appreciate everyone weighing-in, some interesting viewpoints have been expressed.

Monkeydad · 01-11-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Well isn't Carlisle part of the past?

It was a part of the past that included winning.

While we need to move this franchise forward, there are also some traditions that need to return.

Progress doesn't always mean trying all new things. Carlisle could be a positive step to return to our winning ways, as well as a strong offensive line and having the coaching done by coaches, not the ownership and his lackies.

Lotus · 01-11-2010, 01:27 PM

I'm not lobbying for this, but we could also go away to camp in a new place, rather than in Carlisle.

Longtimefan · 01-11-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

I'm not lobbying for this, but we could also go away to camp in a new place, rather than in Carlisle.

That's true, many think there are various alternatives that does not necessarily include Carlisle, just someplace other than Ashburn Va. that have the proper facilities.

tryfuhl · 01-11-2010, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

I'm not lobbying for this, but we could also go away to camp in a new place, rather than in Carlisle.

Yeah it doesn't have to be Carlisle by any means.

Hog1 · 01-12-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Well isn't Carlisle part of the past?

reason has no place here.....its a fan-atic site

rbanerjee23 · 01-09-2010, 02:05 AM

Whatever Shanny thinks is best is cool by me...frankly I would like it to be at Carlisle because at least it gives the appearance of being a little further from Danny's control

tryfuhl · 01-09-2010, 03:38 AM

ship it out I guess.. I don't want to see vets getting to go home, etc

Longtimefan · 01-09-2010, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tryfuhl

ship it out I guess.. I don't want to see vets getting to go home, etc

The point you make is the very same one Doc Walker made in a Comcast interview, and partially contributed to me starting this thread to see what others thought about it. It was Doc's contention that the type distractions of which you speak have proven to be contrary to what training camp is supposed to be about.

Someone also mentioned the point of which rbanejee23 spoke in reference to the watchful eye of Daniel Snyder. I did not see him in Carlisle though he only had one season there after he purchased the team, neither did I see him in Frostburg Md. Not saying he wasn't there at all, he just was not there the times we went. Many believe his lack of presence in either place is the reason why the Training Camp situation is what it is now. He prefers it that way because it's convenient for him, not so for the team.

Beemnseven · 01-09-2010, 08:59 AM

Whatever we've been doing over the last 10 years -- let's do something different.

01-08-2010, 09:36 PM	#1
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Training Camp Getaway This may not be a topic everyone cannot relate to from a comparison standpoint because I don't know how many of you have had the opportunity to visit Redskin Park for Training Camp. I would actually like for everyone to weigh-in and express your views as to whether or not you think getting away to an unfamiliar environment has advantages over remaining local and dealing with the many distractions that present themselves primarily the result of being so closely surrounded by the local fan base. During Shanahan's Press Conference he took a moment to speak about his preference, based on his response to a reporters question I think it's safe to say if he had his way, he would choose to get away. He touched on how getting away had played an important role in his success. Personally, through the years I've had the pleasure of visiting Training Camp in both Carlisle Pa. as well as Frostburg Md. The experience was memorable in both places but my fondest memories are of Carlisle because we spent so much time there. I like Shanahan, have always felt that for that period of time called Training Camp teams need as few distractions as possible. Getting away from the friendly confines of Redskin Park in Ashburn Va. absent much of the local media, family and friends to a place where they can properly train, condition, bond and focus as a unit is extremely important and instrumental as well to the coming together of a team. I don't know if it was the the players, the coaches, or the point in time, but to me the approach to the seasons following Training Camp in Ashburn as compared to the other two places where Camp has been conducted has been so dissimilar. Discuss the pros and cons of how you feel about Training Camp being conducted locally, or in a more distant location. Last edited by SmootSmack; 01-08-2010 at 10:48 PM.

01-09-2010, 12:29 AM	#2
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Training Camp Getaway I never had the pleasure of going to any of those places but to hear former players talk about it, it was a great bonding experience. I think to do it the way it used to be done is a good idea. I think it helps to build a feeling of "Team". Any time you can do that it's a positive. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

01-09-2010, 12:39 AM	#3
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Training Camp Getaway In building the NEW team culture, it is important to break with the past....... Back to Carlisle!! __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

01-11-2010, 01:27 PM	#8
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Training Camp Getaway I'm not lobbying for this, but we could also go away to camp in a new place, rather than in Carlisle. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

01-09-2010, 02:05 AM	#12
rbanerjee23 The Starter Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,440	Re: Training Camp Getaway Whatever Shanny thinks is best is cool by me...frankly I would like it to be at Carlisle because at least it gives the appearance of being a little further from Danny's control __________________ "Tough times don't last but tough people do" -Mike Shanahan HTTR

01-09-2010, 03:38 AM	#13
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 41 Posts: 12,514	Re: Training Camp Getaway ship it out I guess.. I don't want to see vets getting to go home, etc

01-09-2010, 08:59 AM	#15
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: Training Camp Getaway Whatever we've been doing over the last 10 years -- let's do something different.

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