In defense of Albert Haynesworth

[PennSkinsFan]

http://dcprosportsreport.com/2009/12/28/pfts-hog-wash-in-defense-of-albert-haynesworth.html

You know, there is some stuff Pro Football Talk writes that is pretty good, and then other stuff that is down right mind boggling, and well, stupid. This is the latter case.

PFT is way off base this time.

[diehardskin2982]

I agree Haynesworth is a monster. We went from a bottom barrell sack team to a top ten. The combination of Haynesworth, Orakpo, Carter and a healthy Jarmon is comparable to the Giants at their best in my opinion.

[SmootSmack]

Haynesworth showed on those two 4th and 1 stops just how dominating he can be

[irish]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Haynesworth showed on those two 4th and 1 stops just how dominating he can be

I agree that when AH is in he's great but when they needed him to keep Dallas from going up 14-0 (they ran right over where he should have been) he was on the sideline sucking wind. He seesm to get winded so fast that I cant help but wonder if he has some kind of breathing problem.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Haynesworth showed on those two 4th and 1 stops just how dominating he can be

The problem is for every good play he makes he then takes the next 4-5 plays off.

[SolidSnake84]

He doesnt have a breathing problem...he's just out of shape.

He showed up way out of shape and he has gradually been getting better, but getting in a few plays a week isn't the way to go. Next year he needs to work out like a beast in the off-season, get his cardio back up, and then he can be in there when it counts....

[Daseal]

I bet AH is in better shape than any 5 of us combined. He's sucking air because he has 2 OL players on him at all times. AH is damned if he does damned if he doesn't. If he sits down, he's out of shape. If he is on the field and not doing 100% every snap he doesn't care and is lazy. I don't think either is true. Most DL rotate because when they're in you want 100%. AH is no different. I'd rather have him play less snaps per game and be able to go 100% during those snaps.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I bet AH is in better shape than any 5 of us combined. He's sucking air because he has 2 OL players on him at all times. AH is damned if he does damned if he doesn't. If he sits down, he's out of shape. If he is on the field and not doing 100% every snap he doesn't care and is lazy. I don't think either is true. Most DL rotate because when they're in you want 100%. AH is no different. I'd rather have him play less snaps per game and be able to go 100% during those snaps.

Excellent post.

As far as being "damned if he does...", that is what happens when you sign a huge contract and thus become a magnet for criticism.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I bet AH is in better shape than any 5 of us combined. He's sucking air because he has 2 OL players on him at all times. AH is damned if he does damned if he doesn't. If he sits down, he's out of shape. If he is on the field and not doing 100% every snap he doesn't care and is lazy. I don't think either is true. Most DL rotate because when they're in you want 100%. AH is no different. I'd rather have him play less snaps per game and be able to go 100% during those snaps.

I understand the need to rotate to have him at 100% for the snaps he's in but with that said he's gotta be able to go on a a goal line play that could put your team down by 14, especially when your team struggles to score points.

I do think that AH has done a good job and made others around him better.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I bet AH is in better shape than any 5 of us combined. He's sucking air because he has 2 OL players on him at all times. AH is damned if he does damned if he doesn't. If he sits down, he's out of shape. If he is on the field and not doing 100% every snap he doesn't care and is lazy. I don't think either is true. Most DL rotate because when they're in you want 100%. AH is no different. I'd rather have him play less snaps per game and be able to go 100% during those snaps.

Not true. He was rarely double teamed last night. He just needs to get in better shape. He got over on us this year so it's done. Now next year no excuses. I want this guy coming in lean and mean and ready to dominate.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not true. He was rarely double teamed last night. He just needs to get in better shape. He got over on us this year so it's done. Now next year no excuses. I want this guy coming in lean and mean and ready to dominate.

i'm not sure which thread it was in but ss listed ah's playing % and he was right at or above 75%, they rotate d lineman in alot in thei d scheme we have right now, and after watching it more closely i would say ah plays more snaps than any other d line man on our team

but as far as him getting his way and doing what he wants with no discipline that is all on danny boy and hopefully with some new head guys in here next year with back bone and a sack, that won't happen

[skinsfaninok]

Love the guy I hope he retires a skin

[redsk1]

AH had a good year. He's a difference maker. If you're the skins, i guess you could see what you could get for him, right? What could you get for him?

If you could get a first or second would you do it? I don't know, maybe.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Why is it that other NFL players will say publicly that Albert Haynesworth takes plays off and dogs it on the field some time? Is that just to make this "monster" even more angry when he takes the field against them? Or is it a fact and they know they can take him when he isn't going at full speed?


Since most other players do not have a death wish, my guess is that they are not "pulling the monster's tail".


If he were in good condition - - that comes from participating in ALL of the training camp drills and going hard in ALL of the training camp drills - - he might have to take off a play or three a game. But Haynesworth was not a full participant from the day he showed up in training camp, has not been ever since, and now is off the field for about 25 snaps a game and playing at less than full speed for another dozen. For $100M ($43M guaranteed) you might expect just a tad more...

Here is when you might see a tad more. The current contract goes for 7 years. In years 6 and 7 he will try to turn it on full blast again. Until then ... have a nice day whoever has to coach him

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Why is it that other NFL players will say publicly that Albert Haynesworth takes plays off and dogs it on the field some time? Is that just to make this "monster" even more angry when he takes the field against them? Or is it a fact and they know they can take him when he isn't going at full speed?

The guy has spoken out saying that he's being held back from playing harder. If you don't recall the defense that you hate, lead by Blache, often uses the D-Line to occupy linemen in order to let the LBs make the play. Haynesworth wants to rush more.. how are you going to blame the man? Should he play out of scheme and get benched like Lavar?