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12-07-2009, 12:04 PM
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Playmaker
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Leesburg, VA
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Accountability
While it's admirable how hard the players have continued to play, I sense that the coaches send mixed messages when it comes to players doing their jobs. Carlos Rogers blows a coverage on a double move and gets benched. Last season, he played arguably the best football of his career in the first 8 games, and was benched after making a few bad plays. Laron Landry regularly makes undisciplined plays, late hits, blown coverages, bad angles, missed tackles due to poor technique, etc. As an aside, Landry makes an ass of himself at least twice a game, bringing attention to himself after making a routine tackle.
I'm tired of the coaches protecting some players while dogging others. Take Suisham - name a kick of any significance that he's made this year. Yet coaches tolerate his short kickoffs, some of which have even gone out of bounds. Put Suisham in to make a big kick with the game on the line, and the results have been spotty at best. I fully expect Zorn to come to the conclusion that he's so pissed at Landry's play that Carlos Rogers must be benched again when Hall comes back. Whomever our next coach ends up being, I hope that he brings more of a consistent sense of accountability and consequences for not doing your job. |
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12-07-2009, 12:08 PM
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Playmaker
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Woodbridge, VA
Age: 42
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Re: Accountability
amen
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12-07-2009, 12:13 PM
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Pro Bowl
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: San Diego Ca
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Re: Accountability
I agree.
Let's also get guys out of the lineup who aren't making plays. Randle El shouldn't be in the lineup anymore. Not on special teams or WR. I love the guy and he is a person you need on your team but at this point in the year, It's time for Kelly, Thomas and anyone else to get more opportunities. |
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12-07-2009, 12:32 PM
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Living Legend
Join Date: Aug 2008
Age: 57
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Re: Accountability
I disagree about Randle El. I think he really makes his presence known in the slot, and has converted several key 3rd downs for us as a release valve for JC.
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12-07-2009, 12:33 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Colorado
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Re: Accountability
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Edit: on the other hand, I agree with this thread.. Coaches definitely need to start making players take the responsible for their error actions.. |
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12-07-2009, 01:48 PM
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Living Legend
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: PA
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Re: Accountability
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Also, Landry played a good game aside from the 2 double moves he was bunt on. I even saw him make some nice hits and tackles without celebrating and talking smack like usual, I thought there may have been a chance he was either getting a hint or growing up...a few times at least. It WAS Drew Brees' offense burning him at least and not some nobody scrub QB. Brees does that to everyone. Not making excuses, Landry screwed up twice, but it WAS the Saints.
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12-07-2009, 01:56 PM
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Re: Accountability
Jeez... Landry sure is public enemy #1 lately huh
I get it to a point, but some of the (over)reactions are a bit over the top. |
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12-07-2009, 01:58 PM
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Re: Accountability
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12-07-2009, 08:04 PM
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Gamebreaker
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Waldorf, MD
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Re: Accountability
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Get your head in the game, continue to make plays, and save your extended celebrations for the sideline or locker room. Someone must've said something to him because after that (or maybe the TDs) he stopped showboating so much. |
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12-08-2009, 08:02 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 52
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Re: Accountability
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Yeah the showboating is annoying I guess, but it's not a huge deal overall. I'm more concerned with him biting on double moves or not wrapping up on a tackle. If he wants to celebrate after a play I honestly don't have a huge problem with it. Plenty of guys do it. Devin Thomas gets pretty jacked after a play but I haven't heard anyone attacking him. |
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12-08-2009, 08:08 AM
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Gamebreaker
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Re: Accountability
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I don't mind if he showboats if he blows a play up. I've seen him come into a tackle when the guy was already being pulled down from a LB and talk smack to the guy as he's still laying there for several seconds, even if it's a 6 yard run. That I definitely mind. He comes and knocks Brees on his ass like he did, don't mind it one bit. Thomas gets jacked but he's a bit more classy about it, he's not in the CB's face after the play. |
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12-08-2009, 10:55 AM
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Special Teams
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Alexandria VA
Age: 42
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Re: Accountability
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yea I actually enjoy him showing his emotions, reminds me alot of #21. The fact is he was drafted as a STRONG safety and he is a beast if they let him play his natural position but he is forced to play the FS because well we have no one else. Same situation as the Orakpo experiment @ LB. I don't understand why so many people are bitching
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12-08-2009, 11:02 AM
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Playmaker
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Richmond, VA
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Re: Accountability
I don't know if this has been said in the multiple threads about Landry the last couple weeks, but unfortunately Landry is starting to look more and more like former cowboy Roy Williams. I think Williams was more consistent with wrapping up on a tackle instead of going for the knock out hit every single tackle attempt, but they both slowly were found out to be liability's on big pass plays more often than not. We truly need to look at finding a true free safety and switching Landry to his natural role of strong safety next year or otherwise this weakness in the secondary will continue to be exploited.
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12-07-2009, 02:01 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Re: Accountability
Yeah LL has taken over for JC in the scapegoat category that's for sure.
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12-07-2009, 02:12 PM
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Playmaker
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Woodbridge, VA
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Re: Accountability
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landry on the other hand will stop a guy on a run play after he has gained nine yards and stand up and mug everyone like he just caught an int and returned it for 6 not to mention campbell is producing and lookin good, landry is gettin exposed more and more
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