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Old 08-15-2009, 02:41 PM   #1
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Zorn calls team "Soft"

Zorn's 'soft' comment doesn't bode well | ProFootballTalk.com




I think Zorn is right in every way on this one, there is no reason any team should get DOMINATED in a preseason game! It's a joke to think our guys really tried Thurs.. I hope shit changes soon.
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Old 08-15-2009, 02:44 PM   #2
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Well, I'm sure he's trying to light a fire under them...let's see what happens.
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Old 08-15-2009, 02:51 PM   #3
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Re: Zorn calls team "Soft"

I'm sure Angry can relate as well as I can.

When your people don't respond to normal methods of leadership, you have to go a little more extreme. As Jsarno said, it will light a fire under them. Keep up the good work Zorny.
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I'm sure Angry can relate as well as I can.

When your people don't respond to normal methods of leadership, you have to go a little more extreme. As Jsarno said, it will light a fire under them. Keep up the good work Zorny.
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Old 08-15-2009, 03:05 PM   #5
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He's right. The non-starters did play soft. Whether it was nerves or confusion I don't know, but he's correct in what he's saying. They need to get up to speed and I think he's just letting them know.
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Old 08-15-2009, 03:06 PM   #6
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Yeah!!! I am tired of them being soft.
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Old 08-15-2009, 03:58 PM   #7
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I think Zorn's offense is soft.
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Old 08-15-2009, 06:42 PM   #8
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I think Zorn's offense is soft.
This is the billion dollar question for the skins. Is it the players not showing up or the system itself?

I think the answer also includes the structure and the strategy of the front office.
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Old 08-16-2009, 09:47 PM   #9
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This is the billion dollar question for the skins. Is it the players not showing up or the system itself?

I think the answer also includes the structure and the strategy of the front office.
That's a great point. I was thinking about this the other day -- define our offense. Can anyone do it?

Are we a running team? Portis' number of carries would suggest so, but that's not how a 'West Coast' offense typically operates. Then we have Jason Campbell as our quarterback who has a cannon for an arm. He did nothing but throw ICBMs downfield at Auburn which is what fit Joe Gibbs' offense best. Then last year we go out and draft three pass catchers in our first round.

I get the feeling that the players don't really know what their true identity is as an offense. And maybe Zorn doesn't either.
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That's a great point. I was thinking about this the other day -- define our offense. Can anyone do it?

Are we a running team? Portis' number of carries would suggest so, but that's not how a 'West Coast' offense typically operates. Then we have Jason Campbell as our quarterback who has a cannon for an arm. He did nothing but throw ICBMs downfield at Auburn which is what fit Joe Gibbs' offense best. Then last year we go out and draft three pass catchers in our first round.

I get the feeling that the players don't really know what their true identity is as an offense. And maybe Zorn doesn't either.
A pure WCO doesn't even exist anymore, everyone is running hybrid systems.

As for WCO teams not running the ball I think that's a myth these days. Alexander put up some monster rushing numbers in Seattle. Gruden in Tampa loved to "pound the rock" as he put it, Green Bay has had their share of good rushing attacks over the years and they even had some guy named Favre that was known for having a big arm.
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A pure WCO doesn't even exist anymore, everyone is running hybrid systems.

As for WCO teams not running the ball I think that's a myth these days. Alexander put up some monster rushing numbers in Seattle. Gruden in Tampa loved to "pound the rock" as he put it, Green Bay has had their share of good rushing attacks over the years and they even had some guy named Favre that was known for having a big arm.
So true. You can even go back farther to Roger Craig/Tom Rathman with San Fran in the '80's. People remember Montana to Rice but the Niners actually ran the ball a good deal.
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I think Zorn's offense is soft.
For that matter, I've always viewed the WCO as soft compared to "Redskins Football" - pounding out the run to set up play action. When the Peter King's of the world were keeping Art Monk out of the HoF, one of the stats they held as evidence was Monk's relatively low career TD numbers (68). I would argue that historically, the Redskins have run the ball in the red-zone, while most WCO's still pass over 50% of the time, even near the goal-line. I've always felt that nothing is more demoralizing to a defense than pounding the run in the redzone for a TD. Until Snyderato gets serious about building the top O-line in the league, I feel that we will have a dink and dump offense that raises little fear - I believe that soft is a very appropriate term.
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:24 PM   #13
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I think Zorn's offense is soft.

Maybe. Hell, do we even know what's Zorn's offense is? I guess it's when our offense was rolling last year for a few games. I guess...
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Old 08-18-2009, 12:24 PM   #14
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I think Zorn's offense is soft.
The Defense is not Zorn's system. They gave up 23 to an team that is definitely not a top-tier offensive squad.

Hopefully they do step it up for the remainder of the games...preseason AND regular.
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Old 08-15-2009, 04:04 PM   #15
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Re: Zorn calls team "Soft"

This really is not a big deal. I didn't even see in the article where Zorn called his guys soft. He just said the depth/bubble guys need to pick up their game cuz it ain't college. Sheesh.
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