NFL Rumor Central: Does Vick have a future in Frisco?

[Dirtbag59]

You know how people are always asking these days if there's a team that would take a chance on Vick, well now there might be an answer. Kind of surprised though that it's Frisco as there seems to be a segment of the population that's HUGE on animal rights. Of course "liberals" tend to be more forgiving and he'll have the support of his childhood hero, Steve Young, as well as the possibility of being reunited with the coach (Dan Reeves) that drafted him, but either way we'll see.

However I think this blog entry said it best:
"Folks typically overstate the impact of San Francisco's liberal values. But people in the Bay Area DO NOT mess with animals. The 49ers will be booed roundly and frequently by the locals if Vick is acquired. Roundly and
frequently. (And actually, Raiders fans might boo even more roundly and frequently.)"
Does Vick have a future in Frisco?
Michael Vick | Falcons | Interested: 49ers?

On his NFL.com blog, Adam Schefter has speculated that the San Francisco 49ers may be angling to bring former Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick into the mix to be the team's new field general, should Vick be reinstated by the league when his prison sentence is over.

Schefter notes that the team will interview Dan Reeves today for its vacant offensive coordinator position, and Reeves was the coach of the Falcons when the team traded for a No. 1 overall draft selection to take Vick in 2001. Two other coaches the 49ers have pursued for the vacant offensive coordinator position - Baltimore Ravens quarterbacks coach Hue Jackson and former Falcons wide receivers coach Mike Johnson - also have ties to Vick.

The team has also signed Jimmy Williams, Vick's former teammate at Virginia Tech, who lives in Hampton, Virginia near one of Vick's homes.
In 2008, San Francisco's passing attack ranked No. 13 in the league with 3,379 yards through the air. Shaun Hill and J.T. O'Sullivan combined for 21 touchdowns and 19 interceptions, and were sacked 55 times. In 2006, Vick threw for 2,474 yards with 20 touchdowns and 13 interceptions and also ran for 1,039 yards and two touchdowns.

[tdSKINS1]

I'm a die hard Hokie fan, and I've watched Michael play a lot and yes he messed up in a big way, however this man is one of the most electricfying athletes I have ever seen. He served his time, and deserves a second chance. Anyone who thinks he does not is a dumbass for thinking that. He is incredible and the Niners would definetly be upgrading with MV

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by tdSKINS1

I'm a die hard Hokie fan, and I've watched Michael play a lot and yes he messed up in a big way, however this man is one of the most electricfying athletes I have ever seen. He served his time, and deserves a second chance. Anyone who thinks he does not is a dumbass for thinking that. He is incredible and the Niners would definetly be upgrading with MV

I remember when he first came down here in Atlanta he really was an exciting player. From his first game as a starter against Green Bay where he rolled out left and hit a guy across the other side of the field with a 20 yard pass that ended up with the ball traveling about 50 yards to the NFC playoffs against the Eagles(first time around) where he ran up the middle and got a touchdown while getting decked by two guys only to be called back on a holding penalty.

However once people started out learning how to defend him (ie Tampa) he just ended up being a mediocre quarterback that actually seemed to be holding his team back due to the fact that he couldn't throw the ball well. I think that was the key, when you thought of him as a QB that could also run then you had problems defending him out of fear. However once people started realizing how poor he was at reading defenses they saw a really fast guy that couldn't throw very accurately.

I admit it might be interesting to see him San Fran but the guy doesn't exactly deserve it.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by tdSKINS1

I'm a die hard Hokie fan, and I've watched Michael play a lot and yes he messed up in a big way, however this man is one of the most electricfying athletes I have ever seen. He served his time, and deserves a second chance. Anyone who thinks he does not is a dumbass for thinking that. He is incredible and the Niners would definetly be upgrading with MV

Anyone that thinks he does not is a Dumbass? Really. You've just insulted at least half or more of the Warpathers with that statement. If you have children go buy them a Vick jersey to wear. Were not talking about getting his job back at McDonalds. Were talking the NFL. I'd rather see the job go to some one that appreciates the rare opportunity to play in this league. I don't care how good he played QB. Guess I'm a dumbass.

Some of his dogs thought he was most electricfying too.

I respect anyones opinion on the subject for or against Vick. Just ask you to extend the same respect

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by tdSKINS1

I'm a die hard Hokie fan, and I've watched Michael play a lot and yes he messed up in a big way, however this man is one of the most electricfying athletes I have ever seen. He served his time, and deserves a second chance. Anyone who thinks he does not is a dumbass for thinking that. He is incredible and the Niners would definetly be upgrading with MV

You now what's really funny is eveyones values. Some are stead fast and do not want any one with a marred past. Good for them. They have set high values. Maybe too high maybe not. Others would hire a drug lord. lol.

Vick kills an animal and goes to jail and awaits reinstatement. Pacman has people shot ...with a gun....in order to kill....and he gets reinstated and people are fine with him playing. Whether with their team or someone elses. I think I would rather take back the man who hurt the animal over trying to take another human beings life but those are my values.

In any case if we are going to say Vick is a monster and can't change then we might as well not let any of the other prisoners go either. I mean who wants a pediphile on the streets or a murderer, or a theif, or perhaps a rapist. If we are not going to give people a second chance then we better start building more prisons in everyones back yard to house everyone.

If we as a society are not willing to make sure he gets the counceling and perhaps be a spokesman or speak about what he did wrong in order to help stop this very act from accuring again and humbling him then where do you think he's going to go right back to in order to make money again?

Now I'm the last anyone would want to call a bible thumper but for those of you who hold high morals....

To open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me” (Acts 26:18).

and

Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you” (Colossians 3:13).

again I'm the last who should be called a bible thumper for I hardly go to church at all unless dragged by family but I do believe we as a society should be finding other ways to punish evil besides simply putting people in prison and not teaching them society norms, values and getting them counceling for their actions. I agree there is a % of the population that will not or can not be changed but to simply say "yea he may have learned a lesson but forget about giving him a chance" is obserd. If all busineses looked at Vick this way then how is he going to support himself or his family? I guess we should be saying thats his problem, he should have thought about it ahead of time?

I say reinstate him. Make him give a portion of his money to animal rights organizations, and force him to do commercials to humble him. Keep him on a tight leash as they did Pacman and Vicks own actions will speak louder then words. If he volunteered his services to an animal rights organization then perhaps some would change their way of thinking about him.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

You now what's really funny is eveyones values. Some are stead fast and do not want any one with a marred past. Good for them. They have set high values. Maybe too high maybe not. Others would hire a drug lord. lol.

Vick kills an animal and goes to jail and awaits reinstatement. Pacman has people shot ...with a gun....in order to kill....and he gets reinstated and people are fine with him playing. Whether with their team or someone elses. I think I would rather take back the man who hurt the animal over trying to take another human beings life but those are my values.

In any case if we are going to say Vick is a monster and can't change then we might as well not let any of the other prisoners go either. I mean who wants a pediphile on the streets or a murderer, or a theif, or perhaps a rapist. If we are not going to give people a second chance then we better start building more prisons in everyones back yard to house everyone.

If we as a society are not willing to make sure he gets the counceling and perhaps be a spokesman or speak about what he did wrong in order to help stop this very act from accuring again and humbling him then where do you think he's going to go right back to in order to make money again?

Now I'm the last anyone would want to call a bible thumper but for those of you who hold high morals....

To open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me” (Acts 26:18).

and

Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you” (Colossians 3:13).

again I'm the last who should be called a bible thumper for I hardly go to church at all unless dragged by family but I do believe we as a society should be finding other ways to punish evil besides simply putting people in prison and not teaching them society norms, values and getting them counceling for their actions. I agree there is a % of the population that will not or can not be changed but to simply say "yea he may have learned a lesson but forget about giving him a chance" is obserd. If all busineses looked at Vick this way then how is he going to support himself or his family? I guess we should be saying thats his problem, he should have thought about it ahead of time?

I say reinstate him. Make him give a portion of his money to animal rights organizations, and force him to do commercials to humble him. Keep him on a tight leash as they did Pacman and Vicks own actions will speak louder then words. If he volunteered his services to an animal rights organization then perhaps some would change their way of thinking about him.

Wow that's quite a post SBXVII. Personally I don't think Vick should have went to prison in the first place. But now that he has, if he were to be reinstated he should have the same rights as every other player in the NFL. Otherwise he served his sentance in vain. To force him to give a portion of his money or to make commercials is still treating him like a felon and to admit that he is different and outside of the "NFL Standard" He payed for his crime.

As far as Pac Man or OJ Simpson or any felon I feel the same way. They have the right to make a living. Just not in the NFL. IMO

Nothing wrong with being called a Bible thumper Brother
John 3:16

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

You now what's really funny is eveyones values. Some are stead fast and do not want any one with a marred past. Good for them. They have set high values. Maybe too high maybe not. Others would hire a drug lord. lol.

Vick kills an animal and goes to jail and awaits reinstatement. Pacman has people shot ...with a gun....in order to kill....and he gets reinstated and people are fine with him playing. Whether with their team or someone elses. I think I would rather take back the man who hurt the animal over trying to take another human beings life but those are my values.

In any case if we are going to say Vick is a monster and can't change then we might as well not let any of the other prisoners go either. I mean who wants a pediphile on the streets or a murderer, or a theif, or perhaps a rapist. If we are not going to give people a second chance then we better start building more prisons in everyones back yard to house everyone.

If we as a society are not willing to make sure he gets the counceling and perhaps be a spokesman or speak about what he did wrong in order to help stop this very act from accuring again and humbling him then where do you think he's going to go right back to in order to make money again?

Now I'm the last anyone would want to call a bible thumper but for those of you who hold high morals....

To open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me” (Acts 26:18).

and

Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you” (Colossians 3:13).

again I'm the last who should be called a bible thumper for I hardly go to church at all unless dragged by family but I do believe we as a society should be finding other ways to punish evil besides simply putting people in prison and not teaching them society norms, values and getting them counceling for their actions. I agree there is a % of the population that will not or can not be changed but to simply say "yea he may have learned a lesson but forget about giving him a chance" is obserd. If all busineses looked at Vick this way then how is he going to support himself or his family? I guess we should be saying thats his problem, he should have thought about it ahead of time?

I say reinstate him. Make him give a portion of his money to animal rights organizations, and force him to do commercials to humble him. Keep him on a tight leash as they did Pacman and Vicks own actions will speak louder then words. If he volunteered his services to an animal rights organization then perhaps some would change their way of thinking about him.

Vick played high school ball about 20 miles from where I live and I still don't know how I feel about him. The house he owned where he had the dogs is not far from here either and when a contractor bought the house and put it up for auction they would show the cages and houses where the dogs were kept. It was disgusting. I have never fought dogs but I have done some things that I'm not proud of and by the grace of God have changed the way I live my life. I thoroughly enjoyed reading your post SBXVII. Thank you.

[Eknox]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

You now what's really funny is eveyones values. Some are stead fast and do not want any one with a marred past. Good for them. They have set high values. Maybe too high maybe not. Others would hire a drug lord. lol.

Vick kills an animal and goes to jail and awaits reinstatement. Pacman has people shot ...with a gun....in order to kill....and he gets reinstated and people are fine with him playing. Whether with their team or someone elses. I think I would rather take back the man who hurt the animal over trying to take another human beings life but those are my values.

In any case if we are going to say Vick is a monster and can't change then we might as well not let any of the other prisoners go either. I mean who wants a pediphile on the streets or a murderer, or a theif, or perhaps a rapist. If we are not going to give people a second chance then we better start building more prisons in everyones back yard to house everyone.

If we as a society are not willing to make sure he gets the counceling and perhaps be a spokesman or speak about what he did wrong in order to help stop this very act from accuring again and humbling him then where do you think he's going to go right back to in order to make money again?

Now I'm the last anyone would want to call a bible thumper but for those of you who hold high morals....

To open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me” (Acts 26:18).

and

Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you” (Colossians 3:13).

again I'm the last who should be called a bible thumper for I hardly go to church at all unless dragged by family but I do believe we as a society should be finding other ways to punish evil besides simply putting people in prison and not teaching them society norms, values and getting them counceling for their actions. I agree there is a % of the population that will not or can not be changed but to simply say "yea he may have learned a lesson but forget about giving him a chance" is obserd. If all busineses looked at Vick this way then how is he going to support himself or his family? I guess we should be saying thats his problem, he should have thought about it ahead of time?

I say reinstate him. Make him give a portion of his money to animal rights organizations, and force him to do commercials to humble him. Keep him on a tight leash as they did Pacman and Vicks own actions will speak louder then words. If he volunteered his services to an animal rights organization then perhaps some would change their way of thinking about him.

preach on brotha...the only thing is PETA changed there minds, and doesn't want him doing animal rights commercials, they want to continue to beat this man down for his albeit horrible mistake...Murderers of people get second chances why not him...people are tooo judgemental of others...Can all the people that are judging him so harshly truely say there closets are clean...I doubt it (he's served the time handed down to him) so leave him the F alone and let the man try to make a living..

[MdBluefinCrab]

Originally Posted by tdSKINS1

I'm a die hard Hokie fan, and I've watched Michael play a lot and yes he messed up in a big way, however this man is one of the most electricfying athletes I have ever seen. He served his time, and deserves a second chance. Anyone who thinks he does not is a dumbass for thinking that. He is incredible and the Niners would definetly be upgrading with MV

Count me as one of the "dumb asses". He not only lied to the courts but also the Commissioner of the NFL, not once but twice.
Maybe he should get a second chance but not anytime soon. The only time he has served has been by the Feds. He's yet to serve any kind of punishment that is due him by the NFL and serving time in a Federal penitentiary doesn't count as punishment time served in the NFL.
Vick should still serve at least a 1 year suspension from the NFL for his crimes and lying to the NFL Commissioner and if not, then all this talk about cracking down on the thuggery in the NFL is all that...nothing but talk.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by MdBluefinCrab

Count me as one of the "dumb asses". He not only lied to the courts but also the Commissioner of the NFL, not once but twice.
Maybe he should get a second chance but not anytime soon. The only time he has served has been by the Feds. He's yet to serve any kind of punishment that is due him by the NFL and serving time in a Federal penitentiary doesn't count as punishment time served in the NFL.
Vick should still serve at least a 1 year suspension from the NFL for his crimes and lying to the NFL Commissioner and if not, then all this talk about cracking down on the thuggery in the NFL is all that...nothing but talk.

My only question is where was your outrage when Leonard Little killed that woman, served 90 days in jail, and was allowed to play again? Do you even know that the NFL allowed a guy who killed a human being while driving drunk to play again?

Once again, I don't justify Vick, nor do I think he's a good person whatsoever. I'm just sick and tired of people acting like this is the worst thing an NFL player has done (even though his career was ruined and went to jail for a year). Oh and in case someone starts accusing me of being insensitive, I'm a dog owner.

Please people, there are rapist, child molesters, murderers, that b/c they have money are able to get away with their crime, continue with their lives as if nothing happened. Ok, maybe Goodell should ban Vick for another year. But then again, he gave Pacman Jones a chance, so if Jones got a chance, then Vick should.

[MdBluefinCrab]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

My only question is where was your outrage when Leonard Little killed that woman, served 90 days in jail, and was allowed to play again? Do you even know that the NFL allowed a guy who killed a human being while driving drunk to play again?

Once again, I don't justify Vick, nor do I think he's a good person whatsoever. I'm just sick and tired of people acting like this is the worst thing an NFL player has done (even though his career was ruined and went to jail for a year). Oh and in case someone starts accusing me of being insensitive, I'm a dog owner.

Please people, there are rapist, child molesters, murderers, that b/c they have money are able to get away with their crime, continue with their lives as if nothing happened. Ok, maybe Goodell should ban Vick for another year. But then again, he gave Pacman Jones a chance, so if Jones got a chance, then Vick should.

Sorry but I didn't and still don't know anything about Leonard Little and if I had known, I would have felt that he should be banned for life. I felt the same about Lewis, another thug who got away with murder.
I've been very disappointed in the NFL the past 10 years or so due to the lax atmosphere about letting thugs get away with murder and turning what was once a true sport, into an entertainment business. It's starting to look like the World Wrestling Federation these days, with all of the dancing and individual entertainment by Players who make it all about themselves and the fans fall for it, hook, line and sinker.
I'm not against Vick ever playing again but he still needs to serve his punishment by the NFL. He was one hell of an athlete but not much of a QB. I hope this has made him a better person because it's not going to matter what he does on the football field, it's what he does with his life that matters.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by MdBluefinCrab

Sorry but I didn't and still don't know anything about Leonard Little and if I had known, I would have felt that he should be banned for life. I felt the same about Lewis, another thug who got away with murder.
I've been very disappointed in the NFL the past 10 years or so due to the lax atmosphere about letting thugs get away with murder and turning what was once a true sport, into an entertainment business. It's starting to look like the World Wrestling Federation these days, with all of the dancing and individual entertainment by Players who make it all about themselves and the fans fall for it, hook, line and sinker.
I'm not against Vick ever playing again but he still needs to serve his punishment by the NFL. He was one hell of an athlete but not much of a QB. I hope this has made him a better person because it's not going to matter what he does on the football field, it's what he does with his life that matters.

The evidence showed that Lewis was not the guy stabbing anyone and he was found not guilty of murder cause of a total lack of evidence. It was his two thug friends. Lewis just obstructed justice by lying about what he saw. BIG DIFFERENCE. Leiws was just really stupid and used horrible judgement about who he ran with.

IMO Leonard Little should not be playing in the NFL. He killed someone drinking and driving and then after he killed an innocent women he did it again. Should have a lifetime ban.

[SkinDogg]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

My only question is where was your outrage when Leonard Little killed that woman, served 90 days in jail, and was allowed to play again? Do you even know that the NFL allowed a guy who killed a human being while driving drunk to play again?

Once again, I don't justify Vick, nor do I think he's a good person whatsoever. I'm just sick and tired of people acting like this is the worst thing an NFL player has done (even though his career was ruined and went to jail for a year). Oh and in case someone starts accusing me of being insensitive, I'm a dog owner.

Please people, there are rapist, child molesters, murderers, that b/c they have money are able to get away with their crime, continue with their lives as if nothing happened. Ok, maybe Goodell should ban Vick for another year. But then again, he gave Pacman Jones a chance, so if Jones got a chance, then Vick should.

Agree. No one loves a dog more than me, I've had them all my life, I volunteer for a local animal shelter, I was livid with Vick. But again I have to agree - he's paid his debt, it's time to move on. And if PETA truly had a brain, they'd use this crime to further expose dog fighting and put forth systems to combat it. Instead they just yell and scream which they will certainly do on the doorstep of whatever team would sign him.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by tdSKINS1

I'm a die hard Hokie fan, and I've watched Michael play a lot and yes he messed up in a big way, however this man is one of the most electricfying athletes I have ever seen. He served his time, and deserves a second chance. Anyone who thinks he does not is a dumbass for thinking that. He is incredible and the Niners would definetly be upgrading with MV

You know what bud? Vick is a great athlete, but a crappy QB. Matt Ryan actually can take the Falcons places as he can pass, something Vick wasn't too good at. If you can't pass in the NFL you are useless. THe only college option QB that ever came close to winning the SB was Donovan and I think you can almost safely say he is never going back to the big dance. Also, Donovan could thread the needle when he was at Syracuse, where Vick was in a crappy conference at the time he was at Va Tech, which also had one hell of a defense!!!

[tryfuhl]

If Pacman got through all that he did and could still play (even though he wasn't really sentenced in the same), Vick should also get to come back.