Colt Brennan

[maroonandblack30]

Why do you think the Skins drafted Brennan? Do they see him as a guy who could be a legit starter in a few years? Or is he just a career 3rd stringer?

I can't see them drafting him thinking he would someday be the starter since Campbell is supposedly the "future".

[Daseal]

They took him because he is the epitome of risk vs. reward. We invest very little to obtain him, and he has a chance of being a very good player in this league. I think we've learned it's very important to have two good quarterbacks in today's NFL, and that's what they were thinking.

[GMScud]

He played in a similar style offense under June Jones in Hawaii. With Brunell gone and Collins nearing the end of his career, we needed another backup QB. Brennan was a projected early round pick for much of his senior year, and slipped all the way to the 6th round.

I think we addressed a need (BACKUP QB, not eventual starter), and got a good value in doing so.

There will not be an open QB competition in camp next season, so everyone can just forget about it.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

Why do you think the Skins drafted Brennan? Do they see him as a guy who could be a legit starter in a few years? Or is he just a career 3rd stringer?

I can't see them drafting him thinking he would someday be the starter since Campbell is supposedly the "future".

I think you're trying to use reverse psychology with the topic of this thread, but I'll give a legitimate opinion anyway. I believe he was drafted because Zorn felt it was a good value to get Brennan in the sixth round.

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

I think you're trying to use reverse psychology with the topic of this thread, but I'll give a legitimate opinion anyway. I believe he was drafted because Zorn felt it was a good value to get Brennan in the sixth round.

No need to overthink things... I am just curious to hear others opinions.

I personally think it is ridiculous for anyone to think Colt could produce now.

[diehardskin2982]

I think colt brennan is the "hasselbeck" for the redskins. Sit on the bench, learn from zorn, watch the starter and eventually will become the starter. Remember Campbell has not recieved his extension yet

[rypper11]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I think colt brennan is the "hasselbeck" for the redskins. Sit on the bench, learn from zorn, watch the starter and eventually will become the starter. Remember Campbell has not recieved his extension yet

He is Babe Laufenberg.....
Beautiful preseason and a loyal fan base calling for his number to be called. Yet, he won't throw a regular season TD unless we have some serious injuries.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by rypper11

He is Babe Laufenberg.....
Beautiful preseason and a loyal fan base calling for his number to be called. Yet, he won't throw a regular season TD unless we have some serious injuries.

I hope he is the next Tony Romo. They have the same build and they both have an ability to make plays. If JC is not the guy then, I hope Colt is.

[prinzeofmoval]

Well at this point it really doesn't mater why we drafted him. They're gonna keep the douche they call Campbell at QB and we'll play from there. Now Campbell isn't the reason we lost last night. The line once again was horrible, but he is the reason why my voice is soar from screaming move out the pocket and throw the damn ball away. He hangs on the ball much to long for my taste. He also doesn't have much motivation skills on the sideline either. When a team is down or making a comeback you see the Bradys or Farves on the sideline walking the bench back and forth to get his team hyped. Every cut to Jason on the sideline i see him on the bench with very little excitement.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

Well at this point it really doesn't mater why we drafted him. They're gonna keep the douche they call Campbell at QB and we'll play from there. Now Campbell isn't the reason we lost last night. The line once again was horrible, but he is the reason why my voice is soar from screaming move out the pocket and throw the damn ball away. He hangs on the ball much to long for my taste. He also doesn't have much motivation skills on the sideline either. When a team is down or making a comeback you see the Bradys or Farves on the sideline walking the bench back and forth to get his team hyped. Every cut to Jason on the sideline i see him on the bench with very little excitement.

JC gets one more year at QB. If he produces they resign him, if not he is gone. THe FO told Frerotte to take a hike for not getting the job done, then Johnson because of not getting the job done and $$$$$. JC will want a raise, which is natural with guys in his position in the league. I would find it rather disturbing if Snyder doesn't part with this guy if we go 7-9 or 8-8 in 2009. On top of that JC shows no passion or leadership at all in his starting role. Even Frerotte showed some emotion and fight when he was with us, as did Johnson.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

Well at this point it really doesn't mater why we drafted him. They're gonna keep the douche they call Campbell at QB and we'll play from there. Now Campbell isn't the reason we lost last night. The line once again was horrible, but he is the reason why my voice is soar from screaming move out the pocket and throw the damn ball away. He hangs on the ball much to long for my taste. He also doesn't have much motivation skills on the sideline either. When a team is down or making a comeback you see the Bradys or Farves on the sideline walking the bench back and forth to get his team hyped. Every cut to Jason on the sideline i see him on the bench with very little excitement.

I am sorry but these types of comments are just bogus to me. Are you in the huddle? Have you spoken to his teammates? Just b/c he doesn't seem to be motivating them the way you would like, doesn't mean he doesn't command their respect. These are the same types of comments Philly fans make about McNabb. Several of the greatest QB's ever were known for their quiet command of the game. Johnny U - not a sideline rah-rah guy, but he owned his team. Same for Joe Montana.

Leadership comes in many forms and this BS that a QB has to be a cheerleader to be effective strikes me as ignorant.

[DIRTEE]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I am sorry but these types of comments are just bogus to me. Are you in the huddle? Have you spoken to his teammates? Just b/c he doesn't seem to be motivating them the way you would like, doesn't mean he doesn't command their respect. These are the same types of comments Philly fans make about McNabb. Several of the greatest QB's ever were known for their quiet command of the game. Johnny U - not a sideline rah-rah guy, but he owned his team. Same for Joe Montana.

Leadership comes in many forms and this BS that a QB has to be a cheerleader to be effective strikes me as ignorant.

I concur with you brother. Professional athletes are paid to play the game. Jason shouldn't have to pump up his team, everyone should be self motivated. Its all about the dollar dollar bills!!

[sportscurmudgeon]

Why did they draft Colt Brennan? Certainly it was not for either of these two reasons:

1. They think he will max out as a third-string QB - - aka "baseball cap wearer and clipboard holder." or

2. They think he's ready to play at the NFL level in 2008.


If they thought he could play NOW, he would never have lasted until the 6th round. The Skins would have taken him in the rounds where they took all those other guys they thought could play - - like Rhinehart and Tryon.

On the other hand, the same guys who drafted him as a "prospect/project" also took Kelly/Davis/Thomas early on to help resolve problems in the receiving corps... So, maybe he is a super-star ready to take over the league immediately - - if he can only get his shot.


Why isn't Colt Brennan ready to play now? Because he is the product of an offensive system that is not used in the NFL meaning that he has to start the learning process from next to the very beginning. Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan had a huge advantage over Colt Brennan in college because they played in systems that are far more similar to NFL offenses. And so they began the learning curve at a higher level of experience.


Will Colt Brennan ever be any good? It is waaay too early to know. So far, he has played against competition that was generally not good enough to make the NFL - - both at Hawaii and in the exhibition games. Right now, only the coaches who see him in practice all the time have any idea how close he is to being "NFL-competent" - - or how far away he is.


NFL scouting is not a science. If it were, Johnny Unitas would not have been an undrafted free-agent and the Redskins would have selected a much better receiver in the second round this year than the guys they selected. So, the jury is out on Colt Brennan and it will take a horrendous set of circumstances for anyone to see him in a game this year for anything other than mop-up duty.


But IMAGINE for a moment that Brennan is nowhere near ready to play and that is apparent to people in the Redskins practices - - including Jason Campbell. If that were the case, wouldn't it make sense for JC and his agent to work on getting that long term extension in this off-season instead of waiting. After all, IF Brennan isn't ready to play, it's not as if the Redskins have much to fall back on at the position.


Just a thought.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I acknowledge that Jason Campbell is imperfect. Jason has a slow release and, at times, has struggled to throw accurate balls on short and intermediate passes. Moreover, I do not hate Colt Brennan. In fact, I want to see Colt succeed just as I want every other Redskin to succeed. My loyalty is to the team, not to any particular individual. So, I will be thrilled if Colt becomes some stud who brings us a Super Bowl trophy.

At this point, however, I have seen nothing to make me think that Colt is undoubtedly "the guy." Consider the following:

• Although Colt was highly productive in college, so too was Jimmy Chang, who is now out of the league. I don't mean to suggest that Colt Brennan is Jimmy Chang, Jr. However, Colts' fans should consider the reality that June Jones' offense tends to make quarterbacks look more talented than they truly are.

• Mel Kiper and several other respected draft analysts concluded that Colt, while worth a late round pick, is a system quarterback who will struggle in a pro-style offense against starting-caliber defenses. Mel Kiper has been wrong on numerous occasions, but it is meaningful that a great number of people paid to evaluate talent and 31 teams concluded that Colt was not worthy of a 5th round pick. In anticipation of the "Tom Brady was a 6th round pick" chorus, for every Tom Brady, there are several dozen JaJuan Seiders. Who is JaJuan Seider? Exactly.

• In the biggest games of his career, Colt struggled mightily. Colt struggled against Georgia in the Sugar Bowl, in Senior Bowl practices and in the Senior Bowl itself. Now, I've heard Colts' fans say, "he was playing behind a suspect line against Georgia." That excuse may very well be true, but it is interesting that Colt fans scoff when Jason Campbell's fans say "Jason is playing behind a suspect line." I do not think that a single game defines a quaterback, but I watched Colt in the Sugar Bowl and he wasn't pretty.

• While Colt performed brilliantly in preseason games against the Colts' and the Jets' 3rd team defenses, he also played very poorly against the Panthers' and Bills' 3rd team defenses. I expect young quarterbacks to have problems with consistency when playing against tough 1st team defenses. I do not expect to see those inconsistency issues when a starting caliber quarterback plays against 3rd team defenses.

• Colt will not beat Jason to become the starter until he beats Collins to become the primary backup. Although many people seem to forget about Todd Collins, he is still on this team. Moreover, Collins is the primary backup. Until Zorn and the rest of the coaching staff believe Colt is a better quarterback than Todd, Colt will not beat Jason for the starting quarterback role. So, as hard as this seems to believe, right now there is no competition between Colt and Jason.

It's not that I am convinced that Colt will be a bad quarterback in the NFL, it's that I don't know what to make of him at this point. We have so little information to judge him by, that I am simply stunned that so many people are convinced he is the answer to all of our prayers. I suppose I shouldn't be stunned, after all, we are talking about Washington Redskins fans who tend to love backup quarterbacks like a junkie loves a fix. It is those people, the devout members of the Cult of Colt, whose judgment I question. For anyone who is 100% positive Colt is "the guy," please let me take your time machine for a spin.

As much as the fans would love the coaches to play Colt, they play the best players available. They do not make personnel decisions to satisfy the personal curiousity of outsiders. So I ask the members of the Cult of Colt, do you think the coaches (a) realize that Colt is a superior quarterback to Collins and Campbell but refuse to play him because they have some vendetta against him or (b) aren't as smart as you when it comes to Colt despite the fact that they see him nearly every day in practice?

[redsk1]

You draft 6th round QB's to learn and be the backup. If the QB learns enough he MAY someday get a shot at playing.