Cooley, our answer to Jeremy Shockey

rickmmrr · 09-08-2004, 03:39 PM

I really like this guy. He caught 2 passes in the first series of the Atlanta game.

It took 3 or more guys to taclkle him.

Now I can't dicide whether to get a Coles Jersey , a Cooley Jersey or a Sean Taylor Jersey.

illdefined · 09-08-2004, 03:40 PM

be the first to rock a Cooley jersey!

Big C · 09-08-2004, 04:01 PM

lol not many ppl outside the utah and redskins viewing area will know who he is, but i hope that will change

offiss · 09-08-2004, 04:28 PM

When we drafted him and I saw the highlight's of him, I thought he was much better than people where giving him credit for, take a look at all the h-back's / TE's, and this kid win's the starting job, if he stay's healthy he will be the kind of player that other teams hate, because he will be a clutch player, I disagree with the Shockey comparison though, he's much smarter.

sonny-j-no9 · 09-08-2004, 04:25 PM

go with a sonny j jersey, dont have to worry about him changing teams.

bridaman51 · 09-08-2004, 04:30 PM

I have looked for a Cooley Jersey (espcially when he ran plum over that falcon) and I am not able to find one.

PSUskinsfan11 · 09-08-2004, 04:35 PM

I don't know if Cooley is our Shockey. I hate Shockey but he is top 3 in the league and I don't know if I see Cooley reaching that level.

jrocx69 · 09-08-2004, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSUskinsfan11

I don't know if Cooley is our Shockey. I hate Shockey but he is top 3 in the league and I don't know if I see Cooley reaching that level.

i seem to be disagreeing with you the past few posts ive seen that you made. NO WAY HE'S TOP 3. cant be possible cause he cant stay on the field.

no particular order:

tony g
mcmichael
boo williams
crumpler
bubba franks
heap
billy miller
freddie jones

just to name a few i think are the same caliber and some much better based on blocking, recieving and last but not least DURABILITY

SKINSnCANES · 09-08-2004, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrocx69

i seem to be disagreeing with you the past few posts ive seen that you made. NO WAY HE'S TOP 3. cant be possible cause he cant stay on the field.

no particular order:

tony g
mcmichael
boo williams
crumpler
bubba franks
heap
billy miller
freddie jones

just to name a few i think are the same caliber and some much better based on blocking, recieving and last but not least DURABILITY

lol, youre crazy if you think Shockey is just media hype. When has the media ever said one good thing about shockey. They jsut talk aobut his love for boobs and how he runs his mouth. But you cant argue with the fact that he pushed linebackers down like they were stickfigures and makes plays happen. Hes had the injury bug ever since he was in the NFL but ify ou think he is overrated and not that good then you need to start watching football more, then make an assesment.

PSUskinsfan11 · 09-08-2004, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

lol, youre crazy if you think Shockey is just media hype. When has the media ever said one good thing about shockey. They jsut talk aobut his love for boobs and how he runs his mouth. But you cant argue with the fact that he pushed linebackers down like they were stickfigures and makes plays happen. Hes had the injury bug ever since he was in the NFL but ify ou think he is overrated and not that good then you need to start watching football more, then make an assesment.

amen

jrocx69 · 09-08-2004, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Hes had the injury bug ever since he was in the NFL but ify ou think he is overrated and not that good then you need to start watching football more, then make an assesment.

i was thinking the same thing about you. anyways, his blocking is suspect, durability is a horrible issue for his so called "toughness", and if you dont know the names i put up earlier, then you dont know what a TE is. more then half of their job is blocking. and being that im from NY, you cant tell me anything. Ive seen more of what the media dont show of him. with the skins,, i believe terrell was crunched more than our linebackers were.

Big C · 09-08-2004, 04:58 PM

shockey is much, much faster than cooley

MTK · 09-08-2004, 05:08 PM

Cooley doesn't have the same skills as Shockey, let's face it when Shockey is healthy he's a freak, the only TE's that are in the same boat are Heap, Gonzalez and most likely KWII will join them. Cooley won't be featured in this offense like those guys are, if he sees 30 catches and 4 TD's that will be a quality season for him.

That being said, Cooley looks like he's going to be a great fit for this offense. He can block, he's smart, he can catch and make some things happen after the catch.

Gibbs knows TE's and H-backs. He obviously saw something in Cooley that made him feel comfortable enough to pass on a monster like KWII, take Taylor instead and trade up to grab Cooley later on.

JWsleep · 09-08-2004, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Cooley doesn't have the same skills as Shockey, let's face it when Shockey is healthy he's a freak, the only TE's that are in the same boat are Heap, Gonzalez and most likely KWII will join them. Cooley won't be featured in this offense like those guys are, if he sees 30 catches and 4 TD's that will be a quality season for him.

That being said, Cooley looks like he's going to be a great fit for this offense. He can block, he's smart, he can catch and make some things happen after the catch.

Gibbs knows TE's and H-backs. He obviously saw something in Cooley that made him feel comfortable enough to pass on a monster like KWII, take Taylor instead and trade up to grab Cooley later on.

I completely agree, Matty.

joecrisp · 09-08-2004, 07:40 PM

Cooley's tackle-busting performance against Atlanta aside, he's not the same kind of player that Shockey is, in several respects.

Cooley's very much a Joe Gibbs kind of player-- very humble and hardworking; selfless in the idea that he will eagerly do whatever is asked of him, for the benefit of the team. He's the kind of lunchpail, blue-collar player whose love for the game far exceeds his hunger for fame or stardom. Take all of the trite and cliche'ed expressions that describe "throwback" players, roll them into one wide-eyed country boy from Logan, Utah, and you've got Chris Cooley-- so prototypically the Gibbs player that he certainly must've sprung into creation from the Hall of Fame coach's idealistic vision of what constitutes a "Redskin".

Shockey, on the other hand, was born of the arrogance and hubris of the Miami program: a supremely gifted athlete with a hyperbolic sense of self. While his toughness and grit recall visions of Mackey and Bavaro, those admirable qualities are often overshadowed by Shockey's pervasively obnoxious and inflated sense of self-worth. Along with Owens, Keyshawn and fellow Hurricane Kellen Winslow II, Shockey has come to represent all that is wrong with today's "bling-oriented", me-first NFL player.

Cooley counters Shockey's shockingly absurd pomposity with an understated, intelligent and endearingly simplistic approach to both life and the game he loves. You won't see many flags being thrown in Cooley's direction for bone-headed penalties like personal fouls or taunting. Nor will you hear him making a fool of himself off the field. Like Shockey, Cooley possesses a youthful exuberance for the game, but unlike "The Hotheaded One", Cooley also possesses tremendous respect for the game, for his fellow players and coaches, and for the fans. Redskins fans will take pride in Cooley, not only for his performance on the field, but also for his conduct both on and off of it.

Cooley won't likely catch 50 or 60 passes a year, but his impact on the field will most assuredly be felt, and defenses that fail to account for his abilities as a blocker and as a receiver will most certainly regret it. Coach Gibbs will employ Cooley's versatile talents in ways that lesser coaches would never have imagined, and while he will never garner the kind of attention that teammates like Portis and Coles draw from defenses and the media, he will be every bit the workhorse that draws this offense forward. It will be Cooley's blocks that spring Portis for extra yardage, his subtle exploitation of holes in coverage that frees up Coles for the game-breaking reception, and his grinding, tackle-busting runs after the catch that breaks the will of defenders...

...and he'll do it with that self-effacing grin that tells you he's just as surprised by it all as everybody else is.

I like Chris Cooley. He's a good guy.

Jeremy Shockey can kiss my Redskin-lovin' ass!

09-08-2004, 03:39 PM	#1
rickmmrr Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 395	Cooley, our answer to Jeremy Shockey I really like this guy. He caught 2 passes in the first series of the Atlanta game. It took 3 or more guys to taclkle him. Now I can't dicide whether to get a Coles Jersey , a Cooley Jersey or a Sean Taylor Jersey.

09-08-2004, 04:01 PM	#3
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	lol not many ppl outside the utah and redskins viewing area will know who he is, but i hope that will change __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

09-08-2004, 04:25 PM	#5
sonny-j-no9 Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Age: 56 Posts: 21	go with a sonny j jersey, dont have to worry about him changing teams. __________________ "Freedom isn't Free."

09-08-2004, 04:58 PM	#12
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	shockey is much, much faster than cooley __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

09-08-2004, 03:40 PM	#2
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	be the first to rock a Cooley jersey!

09-08-2004, 04:28 PM	#4
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	When we drafted him and I saw the highlight's of him, I thought he was much better than people where giving him credit for, take a look at all the h-back's / TE's, and this kid win's the starting job, if he stay's healthy he will be the kind of player that other teams hate, because he will be a clutch player, I disagree with the Shockey comparison though, he's much smarter.

09-08-2004, 04:30 PM	#6
bridaman51 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roanoke Virginia Age: 46 Posts: 335	I have looked for a Cooley Jersey (espcially when he ran plum over that falcon) and I am not able to find one.

09-08-2004, 04:35 PM	#7
PSUskinsfan11 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the port, PA Age: 40 Posts: 692	I don't know if Cooley is our Shockey. I hate Shockey but he is top 3 in the league and I don't know if I see Cooley reaching that level.

09-08-2004, 05:08 PM	#13
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Cooley doesn't have the same skills as Shockey, let's face it when Shockey is healthy he's a freak, the only TE's that are in the same boat are Heap, Gonzalez and most likely KWII will join them. Cooley won't be featured in this offense like those guys are, if he sees 30 catches and 4 TD's that will be a quality season for him. That being said, Cooley looks like he's going to be a great fit for this offense. He can block, he's smart, he can catch and make some things happen after the catch. Gibbs knows TE's and H-backs. He obviously saw something in Cooley that made him feel comfortable enough to pass on a monster like KWII, take Taylor instead and trade up to grab Cooley later on.

09-08-2004, 07:40 PM	#15
joecrisp The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Charlottesville, VA Age: 48 Posts: 1,501	Cooley's tackle-busting performance against Atlanta aside, he's not the same kind of player that Shockey is, in several respects. Cooley's very much a Joe Gibbs kind of player-- very humble and hardworking; selfless in the idea that he will eagerly do whatever is asked of him, for the benefit of the team. He's the kind of lunchpail, blue-collar player whose love for the game far exceeds his hunger for fame or stardom. Take all of the trite and cliche'ed expressions that describe "throwback" players, roll them into one wide-eyed country boy from Logan, Utah, and you've got Chris Cooley-- so prototypically the Gibbs player that he certainly must've sprung into creation from the Hall of Fame coach's idealistic vision of what constitutes a "Redskin". Shockey, on the other hand, was born of the arrogance and hubris of the Miami program: a supremely gifted athlete with a hyperbolic sense of self. While his toughness and grit recall visions of Mackey and Bavaro, those admirable qualities are often overshadowed by Shockey's pervasively obnoxious and inflated sense of self-worth. Along with Owens, Keyshawn and fellow Hurricane Kellen Winslow II, Shockey has come to represent all that is wrong with today's "bling-oriented", me-first NFL player. Cooley counters Shockey's shockingly absurd pomposity with an understated, intelligent and endearingly simplistic approach to both life and the game he loves. You won't see many flags being thrown in Cooley's direction for bone-headed penalties like personal fouls or taunting. Nor will you hear him making a fool of himself off the field. Like Shockey, Cooley possesses a youthful exuberance for the game, but unlike "The Hotheaded One", Cooley also possesses tremendous respect for the game, for his fellow players and coaches, and for the fans. Redskins fans will take pride in Cooley, not only for his performance on the field, but also for his conduct both on and off of it. Cooley won't likely catch 50 or 60 passes a year, but his impact on the field will most assuredly be felt, and defenses that fail to account for his abilities as a blocker and as a receiver will most certainly regret it. Coach Gibbs will employ Cooley's versatile talents in ways that lesser coaches would never have imagined, and while he will never garner the kind of attention that teammates like Portis and Coles draw from defenses and the media, he will be every bit the workhorse that draws this offense forward. It will be Cooley's blocks that spring Portis for extra yardage, his subtle exploitation of holes in coverage that frees up Coles for the game-breaking reception, and his grinding, tackle-busting runs after the catch that breaks the will of defenders... ...and he'll do it with that self-effacing grin that tells you he's just as surprised by it all as everybody else is. I like Chris Cooley. He's a good guy. Jeremy Shockey can kiss my Redskin-lovin' ass!

Cooley, our answer to Jeremy Shockey

Locker Room Main Forum