PFT: Raiders shopping Michael Huff

[RMSkins]

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Depending on what the Raiders are asking for I think we should make a run for this kid. Huff was the 7th pick in 2006, in his two seasons he has started every game for the Raiders. Huff hasn't been overly productive with only one interception in his two seasons, but I think he has huge potential especially if we pair him up with an elite safety like Landry. IMO Huff would be a significant upgrade over Doughty. Whether we look at Huff or not the safety position needs to be addressed this offseason.

[wolfeskins]

the skins may upgrade the safety position but i don't think it's as important as the o-line or the d-line. really, i don't think it's even as important as adding another wr,maybe a cb and maybe another lb. i think reed doughty did a fine job and he consistantly got better as the season went on.

[freddyg12]

I loved this guy at Texas, always around the ball - great athlete. I thought & still think he'll be a good one. However, the point in the article about the raiders spending too much on db's might say it all for us too.

Of course, w/ST & Landry we were paying 2 safeties big $, but both were game changers. If Huff is not on that level then he's not worth that big #7 pick contract, so my guess is we won't try & make any deal here.

[Dirtbag59]

Please find another source. I don't trust PFT for anything. Mainly becasue the amount of rumors they've put out that were way off base makes the chances of this being true minimal. PFT reminds me of those magazines you see at the checkout lines in grocery stores with stories like "Satans face spoted over Capital Building" or "Donald Trumps Gay Affair."

Also Freddyg12 your forgetting that if Huff screws up we can release him without any cap penelty since the Raiders will get charged for the signing bonus. Making us responsible only for his base salary.

Yet still, please find another source.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Please find another source. I don't trust PFT for anything. Mainly becasue the amount of rumors they've put out that were way off base makes the chances of this being true minimal. PFT reminds me of those magazines you see at the checkout lines in grocery stores with stories like "Satans face spoted over Capital Building" or "Donald Trumps Gay Affair."

Also Freddyg12 your forgetting that if Huff screws up we can release him without any cap penelty since the Raiders will get charged for the signing bonus. Making us responsible only for his base salary.

Yet still, please find another source.

Concur! ProFootballtalk.com is the sports equivalant of the National Enquirer.

And if anyone thinks they are going to get a first round pick (Huff), for a late round pick, you need to change drugs. They are clouding your common sense thinking!

This is an unsubstantiated rumor, nothing more. I can't see anything that would make the Raiders WANT to get rid of Huff.

[QBall]

In 32 games with the Raiders Huff has 165 tackles, 1 pick (last year), 1 sack (last year), and in 06' only 1 pass defended but last year 11.

If he is available he's definately worth a long hard look. Seems like we could coach him up and make him better, look what we did for Doughty!

[XXVI]

Oh my god, am I the only one who thinks we need to find a way to take Kenny Phillips with #21? He even looks like ST. It's an omen. He's from Miami, he's the same size, and faster. I think he could be even better. THE U is starting to try to emulate that style of FS, and thats what I'm talking about. LaRon Landry, and Kenny Philips. WTF is wrong with that? Trade next years second round, and maybe a third round just to make it a done deal, and get Roy Williams. WR problems done. Second round take a cb if we must, or whatever. third and later rounds get some DL and OL help. You can draft a GREAT offensive unit in the later rounds. Two GREAT safeties would take some coverage pressure off Smoot, and Rogers. We don't need a CB. WR, and another breaout safety, we'll be set.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by XXVI

Oh my god, am I the only one who thinks we need to find a way to take Kenny Phillips with #21? He even looks like ST. It's an omen. He's from Miami, he's the same size, and faster. I think he could be even better. THE U is starting to try to emulate that style of FS, and thats what I'm talking about. LaRon Landry, and Kenny Philips. WTF is wrong with that? Trade next years second round, and maybe a third round just to make it a done deal, and get Roy Williams. WR problems done. Second round take a cb if we must, or whatever. third and later rounds get some DL and OL help. You can draft a GREAT offensive unit in the later rounds. Two GREAT safeties would take some coverage pressure off Smoot, and Rogers. We don't need a CB. WR, and another breaout safety, we'll be set.

Can't argue w/Phillips' talent & he's one of many on the draft wish list, but I would hope that they don't get phillips. IF he's there at #21 it might be too good to pass up. He's the only impact safety in the draft by most rankings, so he's not likely to be there.

I think Doughty showed he can play SS & is a good in the box safety. I think a vet. or a late round guy that excels in coverage is needed. I would like to see Prioleau come back too.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by XXVI

Oh my god, am I the only one who thinks we need to find a way to take Kenny Phillips with #21? He even looks like ST. It's an omen. He's from Miami, he's the same size, and faster. I think he could be even better. THE U is starting to try to emulate that style of FS, and thats what I'm talking about. LaRon Landry, and Kenny Philips. WTF is wrong with that? Trade next years second round, and maybe a third round just to make it a done deal, and get Roy Williams. WR problems done. Second round take a cb if we must, or whatever. third and later rounds get some DL and OL help. You can draft a GREAT offensive unit in the later rounds. Two GREAT safeties would take some coverage pressure off Smoot, and Rogers. We don't need a CB. WR, and another breaout safety, we'll be set.

First of all (this is something I believe I need to emphasize on), nobody and I mean NOBODY could ever be better than Sean Taylor.. He was one of a kind, a size of LB and speed of CB.. All WRs including TO and Randy Moss were afraid of Sean..

Second, I just watched Kenny Phillips' highlights.. He looks good, I have to admit.. But to tell you truth, I would prefer if we go after Brandon Flowers.. He really impressed me.. But I would not mind if we go after Phillips too, only if Flowers is taken before us..

Third, Rogers won't be ready until maybe middle of Sept - depends on his recover progressing. So, unless we sign a nickel back through free agency, we need to draft a CB.. Especially when Springs might not be back for 2009 season..

For those people who wants to see Kenny Phillips' highlights or Brandon Flowers'..

YouTube - Kenny Phillips Highlights

YouTube - Virginia Tech's Brandon Flowers

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Please find another source. I don't trust PFT for anything. Mainly becasue the amount of rumors they've put out that were way off base makes the chances of this being true minimal. PFT reminds me of those magazines you see at the checkout lines in grocery stores with stories like "Satans face spoted over Capital Building" or "Donald Trumps Gay Affair."

Also Freddyg12 your forgetting that if Huff screws up we can release him without any cap penelty since the Raiders will get charged for the signing bonus. Making us responsible only for his base salary.

Yet still, please find another source.

I feel you & others on the source, this doesn't sound like a viable story. Then again, it's Al Davis & he's getting crazier, e.g., writing a resignation letter for his coach.

As for the cap hit, I think you're right that all of Huff's bonus would accelerate to the Raiders cap as dead money, but I don't know that we wouldn't take any cap hit by cutting him. If we inherit the contract & he's due a roster bonus, we'd have to pay him or cut him & take the same dead money cap hit. It all depends on his contract & the deal the two teams work out, but to my knowledge I don't think there's much chance that you could acquire Huff w/out having a significant cap impact.

[mooby]

I would love to bring him in for a late round pick or such, he hasn't been that impressive in Oakland but if we were able to coach him up and make him into a productive starter we could still have a great safety tandem for years.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

If Oakland is ready to give up on him after 2 seasons I say no thanks

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

If Oakland is ready to give up on him after 2 seasons I say no thanks

I am in no way advocating dealing for Huff but I don't think that Oakland's personnel evaluation is exactly "world class." Honestly, I think I'd be more inclined to take a chance on a player discarded by an organization with such a shoddy history of personnel evaluation as opposed to a castoff from a team like the patriots. If the pats let someone go, there's probably something wrong with them or they want way too much money. The raiders are just incompetent.

(isn't great to have a team like the Raiders in the league so we can feel better about the skins!)

[rscalder]

I remember him from the Texas v. USC title game, he is definitely a good player but why are they getting rid of him so early? First warning sign, although it is the Raiders. I think we have to ideal safeties right now. Reed seems to me like what they thought Archulata was suppose to be, but without the heavy contract. I think we go with something in another post, get a savvy veteran to use in nickel and dime situations who may also tutor the Landry and Doughty. Just my opinion.

[QBall]

Originally Posted by rscalder

I remember him from the Texas v. USC title game, he is definitely a good player but why are they getting rid of him so early? First warning sign, although it is the Raiders. I think we have to ideal safeties right now. Reed seems to me like what they thought Archulata was suppose to be, but without the heavy contract. I think we go with something in another post, get a savvy veteran to use in nickel and dime situations who may also tutor the Landry and Doughty. Just my opinion.

I think Landry proved the only tutor he needed was Taylor and his coaches. He had a great rookie season and if healty I expect:

100+ tackles, 5+ picks, 5+ sacks, 10+ pd, PRO BOWL in 08'.