Game Positives and Negatives

CRT3 · 08-15-2004, 01:09 AM

Positives
Starting O-line
The Rock, Sultan, Coles, Cooley, Mcants
D-line
S. Taylor Forced Fumble
SPECIAL TEAMS

Negatives
Ramsey (2 Fumbles and 1 Interception)
Portis - No Spunk in his step, not patient
Jacobs - Lined up wrong on 2 occasions - Looked confused
Penalties
Backup Coners

That Guy · 08-15-2004, 01:30 AM

our 3rd string secondary is complete crap, QBs all sucked tonight...
scott and simon did well, as did smoot, and the starting O-line held the panthers off well.

Taylor got some good hits, and he's really fast... no picks, but he definately showed up to play. Rock was bad early, but made up for it later in the game. Lemons (59) played very well for his limited time...

OUR 1st DEFENSE CAN HOLD THE RUN... they weren't blitzing like crazy this game, and they were able to get 3 stops when the panthers were 3 yards off the goal line... lots of stuffing the runner, but part of that may be a crapper panthers O-line run support...

stempke, hall, and kimrin all kicked, and all looked fine (kimrin squibs punts a lot though).

Gmanc711 · 08-15-2004, 10:18 AM

Theres no way Portis is a negative. He ran 5 times, proboly the same little dive or counter.

Big C · 08-15-2004, 11:24 AM

backup d lineman looked good, at least Greg White and Ron Warner did. Gari Scot has potential, just needs to finish his routes.

SittingBull · 08-15-2004, 11:39 AM

Lets hope the coaching staff can turn Lemons into lemonade

JWsleep · 08-15-2004, 12:36 PM

lol

SKINSnCANES · 08-15-2004, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SittingBull

Lets hope the coaching staff can turn Lemons into lemonade

for anyone that listened to the game with the link that redskins rat provided, tell me that this doesnt sound like something they would have said!! Carolina has some excentric weirdos doing commentary for them.

Big C · 08-15-2004, 05:17 PM

the offense isnt looking good tho. only the o-line. Kenyatta Jones was solid.

RedskinPete · 08-15-2004, 05:45 PM

I bet Jones has a better season then Samuels when all is said and done. As big as Samuels is he should be kicking ass! I think he is over rated. He needs to get mean! Put some people on their ass. All I heard last season was the O attack is to passive because of the pass blocking all the time. Well now it's time to run and he still is passive! I hope Joe Bugel can make me wrong about Samuels be cause he cost TWO first round picks to get him!

CRT3 · 08-16-2004, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedskinPete

I hope Joe Bugel can make me wrong about Samuels be cause he cost TWO first round picks to get him!

What 2 1st Round Picks? We finsihed bad that year adn recieved the 3 pick in the draft and the previous year we traded down with the Saints, so they could pick Rickey Williams and we picked Champ. We also recieved their number 1 the next year which was the 2nd pick in the 1st Round. Who did we get , Lavar!!! So maybe I meesed somthing but how did he cost us 2 first rounders?

MTK · 08-16-2004, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRT3

What 2 1st Round Picks? We finsihed bad that year adn recieved the 3 pick in the draft and the previous year we traded down with the Saints, so they could pick Rickey Williams and we picked Champ. We also recieved their number 1 the next year which was the 2nd pick in the 1st Round. Who did we get , Lavar!!! So maybe I meesed somthing but how did he cost us 2 first rounders?

seriously, someone's math doesn't add up here

]<ing · 08-16-2004, 10:03 AM

As far as Portis is concerned -- it seems that Gibbs isn't running anything allowing him to get to the outside and really use his speed. I only listened to the first half on radio, but that's what it sounded like. I think that Gibbs just knows it's preseason, and doesn't want to show his hand until week one.

The QB play so far is a little troubling though.

CRT3 · 08-16-2004, 10:09 AM

Maybe I shouldn't give Portis a negative but he does seems to beat the lineman to the point of attack in the counter trey. One carry shouldn't count as this is the 1st play of the game that Ramsey fumbled the snap. He picked it up and somehow got it to Portis who took it for a yard or two. A broken play should not count. They ran 2 basic plays that I saw, counter trey and the gut run. Mostly gut runs which is purely vanilla football.

That Guy · 08-15-2004, 07:46 PM

the O is aenemic because of the number of different plays they're running (seems like 1 pass, 1 run)... you can't water down a football gameplan much more than that... QB'ing when the defensive memorizes both of all two of your awesome plays is really tough.

I bet they all start looking a lot better at tampa...

illdefined · 08-16-2004, 02:02 AM

fumbling snaps and throwing bad INTs is NOwhere on the playbook...

08-15-2004, 01:09 AM	#1
CRT3 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Rockville Age: 61 Posts: 795	Game Positives and Negatives Positives Starting O-line The Rock, Sultan, Coles, Cooley, Mcants D-line S. Taylor Forced Fumble SPECIAL TEAMS Negatives Ramsey (2 Fumbles and 1 Interception) Portis - No Spunk in his step, not patient Jacobs - Lined up wrong on 2 occasions - Looked confused Penalties Backup Coners

08-15-2004, 12:36 PM	#6
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,714	lol __________________ Hail from Houston!

08-15-2004, 01:30 AM	#2
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	our 3rd string secondary is complete crap, QBs all sucked tonight... scott and simon did well, as did smoot, and the starting O-line held the panthers off well. Taylor got some good hits, and he's really fast... no picks, but he definately showed up to play. Rock was bad early, but made up for it later in the game. Lemons (59) played very well for his limited time... OUR 1st DEFENSE CAN HOLD THE RUN... they weren't blitzing like crazy this game, and they were able to get 3 stops when the panthers were 3 yards off the goal line... lots of stuffing the runner, but part of that may be a crapper panthers O-line run support... stempke, hall, and kimrin all kicked, and all looked fine (kimrin squibs punts a lot though).

08-15-2004, 10:18 AM	#3
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Theres no way Portis is a negative. He ran 5 times, proboly the same little dive or counter.

08-15-2004, 11:24 AM	#4
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	backup d lineman looked good, at least Greg White and Ron Warner did. Gari Scot has potential, just needs to finish his routes.

08-15-2004, 11:39 AM	#5
SittingBull Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fairfax< VA Posts: 89	Lets hope the coaching staff can turn Lemons into lemonade

08-15-2004, 05:17 PM	#8
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	the offense isnt looking good tho. only the o-line. Kenyatta Jones was solid.

08-15-2004, 05:45 PM	#9
RedskinPete The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Camino,Ca Posts: 1,174	I bet Jones has a better season then Samuels when all is said and done. As big as Samuels is he should be kicking ass! I think he is over rated. He needs to get mean! Put some people on their ass. All I heard last season was the O attack is to passive because of the pass blocking all the time. Well now it's time to run and he still is passive! I hope Joe Bugel can make me wrong about Samuels be cause he cost TWO first round picks to get him!

08-16-2004, 10:03 AM	#12
]<ing Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 96	As far as Portis is concerned -- it seems that Gibbs isn't running anything allowing him to get to the outside and really use his speed. I only listened to the first half on radio, but that's what it sounded like. I think that Gibbs just knows it's preseason, and doesn't want to show his hand until week one. The QB play so far is a little troubling though.

08-16-2004, 10:09 AM	#13
CRT3 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Rockville Age: 61 Posts: 795	Maybe I shouldn't give Portis a negative but he does seems to beat the lineman to the point of attack in the counter trey. One carry shouldn't count as this is the 1st play of the game that Ramsey fumbled the snap. He picked it up and somehow got it to Portis who took it for a yard or two. A broken play should not count. They ran 2 basic plays that I saw, counter trey and the gut run. Mostly gut runs which is purely vanilla football.

08-15-2004, 07:46 PM	#14
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	the O is aenemic because of the number of different plays they're running (seems like 1 pass, 1 run)... you can't water down a football gameplan much more than that... QB'ing when the defensive memorizes both of all two of your awesome plays is really tough. I bet they all start looking a lot better at tampa...

08-16-2004, 02:02 AM	#15
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	fumbling snaps and throwing bad INTs is NOwhere on the playbook...

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