Redskins assistants upset and getting grief in Mobile

GMScud · 01-23-2008, 12:53 PM

According to JLC's latest post on Insider, the Redskins assistants in Mobile for the Senior Bowl are getting ragged on by other team's coaches. Calling the Skins approach a "laughingstock." Great. Apparently our coaches are "up in arms," and distraught over this process and the lack of communication from the team. Anyone else think it's pretty lame that our front office hasn't even given our assistants the courtesy of a phone call during this head coach search? I know "freak out" threads are frowned upon, and that's not the intention here. But I'm pretty upset with the way we're treating our staff.

Clipped this from the post:
Players and coaches are distraught over the poorly worded press release regarding Cerrato's promotion and Jim Fassel's emergence as a candidate with multiple interviews. They are taking a lot of grief from other team''s people down there and, according to some league sources, the word "laughingstock" is being thrown around in regards to how the team is operating.
Link:
Redskins Insider

Riggo44 · 01-23-2008, 12:59 PM

Well that's just great to hear. I'm really missing Gibbs right now.

12thMan · 01-23-2008, 01:01 PM

Well, the longer this drags out, rightfully or not, it's starting to become a PR nightmare.

MTK · 01-23-2008, 01:03 PM

I guess a phone call would be nice but what needs to be said that's not already known?

"Hey coach, we're still looking for a head coach. Talk to you later, bye."

sandtrapjack · 01-23-2008, 01:03 PM

Does not make sense to me how they could say that. Sounds to me that lines of responsibility were clearly drawn with the promotion and that is a step in the the right direction.

I still think that one of the reasons why no "clear-cut" candidate has been identified is that candidate may still be on the staff of either the Patriots or Giants. Remember, that we are only allowed to hear only what the media wants us to hear. Take it with a grain of salt, but move on. Snyder may be waiting to talk to coaches from those staffs. Steve Spagnoulo of the Giants comes to mind.

I may be wrong, but I think I am right in saying that Snyder is going about the process carefully and methodically to get just the right person for the job, the best one available.

I would think he would like those lines of responsibility drawn prior to hiring a HC. IT just makes sense is all.

MTK · 01-23-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Does not make sense to me how they could say that. Sounds to me that lines of responsibility were clearly drawn with the promotion and that is a step in the the right direction.

I still think that one of the reasons why no "clear-cut" candidate has been identified is that candidate may still be on the staff of either the Patriots or Giants. Snyder may be waiting to talk to coaches from those staffs. Steve Spagnoulo of the Giants comes to mind.

I may be wrong, but I think I am right in saying that Snyder is going about the process carefully and methodically to get just the right person for the job, the best one available.

I would think he would like those lines of responsibility drawn prior to hiring a HC. IT just makes sense is all.

The fact is Snyder can't win no matter what he does.

redwagonskins · 01-23-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The fact is Snyder can't win no matter what he does.

Not true. Snyder won when he hired Gibbs and Snyder won when he appeared to understand that continuity and building through youth would benefit this organization. Where he loses is when he forgets about Danny 2.0 and reverts to the flaws of Danny 1.0.

GMScud · 01-23-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The fact is Snyder can't win no matter what he does.

He "won" when he brought Gibbs back. He also did a great job with the handling of Sean's death. He's obviously not a bad guy, but he's convinced he knows what's best for the team, and history proves otherwise for the most part.

I'm just sick thinking of our coaches working hard down there in Mobile and being mocked by other team's coaches. Ugh. Poor guys.

MTK · 01-23-2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

He "won" when he brought Gibbs back. He also did a great job with the handling of Sean's death. He's obviously not a bad guy, but he's convinced he knows what's best for the team, and history proves otherwise for the most part.

I'm just sick thinking of our coaches working hard down there in Mobile and being mocked by other team's coaches. Ugh. Poor guys.

I meant he can't win no matter what he does in regard to the current HC search. Seems that most fans have their minds made up that it's GW or bust.

firstdown · 01-23-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

He "won" when he brought Gibbs back. He also did a great job with the handling of Sean's death. He's obviously not a bad guy, but he's convinced he knows what's best for the team, and history proves otherwise for the most part.

I'm just sick thinking of our coaches working hard down there in Mobile and being mocked by other team's coaches. Ugh. Poor guys.

Auh our grown men as coaches are getting mocked. If thats the case and they cannot handle it then maybe we do need some turn over. Oh, these hard working coaches are getting paid.

#56fanatic · 01-23-2008, 01:12 PM

I have been a supporter of Snyder in terms of what he does to try and put a winner on the field. He spends (sometimes unwisely) but ultimately it is him trying to win. Naming Ceratto the VP of football operations may be a good thing, recently he has shown the ability to get quality players in the later rounds of the draft. The fact this thing with the coaching search has drug on and on is laughable. if he screws this up by hiring someone other than GW he will lose a lot of the respect he has gained during the Gibbs 2 era. He preaches continuity but hiring anyone other than GW is a complete 180. the players, both offensive and defensive want GW, they want this staff, these players on the roster want to win for each other, and the coaching staff. If he botches this, not sure how much I can keep defending him.

MTK · 01-23-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I have been a supporter of Snyder in terms of what he does to try and put a winner on the field. He spends (sometimes unwisely) but ultimately it is him trying to win. Naming Ceratto the VP of football operations may be a good thing, recently he has shown the ability to get quality players in the later rounds of the draft. The fact this thing with the coaching search has drug on and on is laughable. if he screws this up by hiring someone other than GW he will lose a lot of the respect he has gained during the Gibbs 2 era. He preaches continuity but hiring anyone other than GW is a complete 180. the players, both offensive and defensive want GW, they want this staff, these players on the roster want to win for each other, and the coaching staff. If he botches this, not sure how much I can keep defending him.

Have you given any thought to the fact that maybe GW is the one screwing things up?? Or is Snyder to blame no matter what the circumstances. Does Snyder need to bow to any demand that GW has in order to maintain "continuity"?

#56fanatic · 01-23-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Have you given any thought to the fact that maybe GW is the one screwing things up?? Or is Snyder to blame no matter what the circumstances. Does Snyder need to bow to any demand that GW has in order to maintain "continuity"?

I dont know if GW is screwing things up, no one really knows that. I am going by what the NFL people are saying. which I think the majority of us are going by. The fact the players are wanting GW for continuity, familiarity, schematically should say something. Gibbs has endorsed GW for the next coach. again, this is hearsay, but a lot of NFL execs are questioning why he hasn't been named coach. Some feel that GW and Ceratto dont see eye to eye, so maybe thats it. But when the whole team, coaches, and hall of famer Gibbs feels this would be the best hire for the organization it is kind of hard not to feel it would be a mistake. I think a lot of us here want GW as the head coach. Me personally, am tired of taking 1 step forward, and two steps back. We did that after the 99 playoff season, then after the 2005 playoff season and i believe we would be taking a step back after this seasons playoff run by hiring someone from outside the organization.

skinsfan_nn · 01-23-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The fact is Snyder can't win no matter what he does.

Why is that so? Is that because him and GW probably just can't work things out? If GW wants to much control that he doesn't deserve yet, so be it. He's not the guy plain and simple. People will just have to understand that and get over it. I would love to see GW as our next HC but if he wants to much control, SEE YA! Hes not ready and does not deserve it.

But do you then just settle for FOSSIL, and think thats a good idea? I don't, continue looking for a better candidate. IMO its not FOSSIL NO MATTER WHAT, Dans just settling on an old used up has been!

GMScud · 01-23-2008, 01:32 PM

So my question is, do you all think it's true? I mean, have we immediately reverted right back to "laughingstock" ways with the way we're handling this search? Was the announcement of Cerrato's promotion poorly timed? How could Snyder "accidentally" say Cerrato will have final say on the roster?

This is a circus IMO. And not just because we didn't hire GW.

01-23-2008, 12:53 PM	#1
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Redskins assistants upset and getting grief in Mobile According to JLC's latest post on Insider, the Redskins assistants in Mobile for the Senior Bowl are getting ragged on by other team's coaches. Calling the Skins approach a "laughingstock." Great. Apparently our coaches are "up in arms," and distraught over this process and the lack of communication from the team. Anyone else think it's pretty lame that our front office hasn't even given our assistants the courtesy of a phone call during this head coach search? I know "freak out" threads are frowned upon, and that's not the intention here. But I'm pretty upset with the way we're treating our staff. Clipped this from the post: Players and coaches are distraught over the poorly worded press release regarding Cerrato's promotion and Jim Fassel's emergence as a candidate with multiple interviews. They are taking a lot of grief from other team''s people down there and, according to some league sources, the word "laughingstock" is being thrown around in regards to how the team is operating. Link: Redskins Insider __________________ Tardy

01-23-2008, 12:59 PM	#2
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 51 Posts: 2,390	Re: Redskins assistants upset and getting grief in Mobile Well that's just great to hear. I'm really missing Gibbs right now. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

01-23-2008, 01:01 PM	#3
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Redskins assistants upset and getting grief in Mobile Well, the longer this drags out, rightfully or not, it's starting to become a PR nightmare.

01-23-2008, 01:03 PM	#4
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,462	Re: Redskins assistants upset and getting grief in Mobile I guess a phone call would be nice but what needs to be said that's not already known? "Hey coach, we're still looking for a head coach. Talk to you later, bye." __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-23-2008, 01:12 PM	#11
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 50 Posts: 1,801	Re: Redskins assistants upset and getting grief in Mobile I have been a supporter of Snyder in terms of what he does to try and put a winner on the field. He spends (sometimes unwisely) but ultimately it is him trying to win. Naming Ceratto the VP of football operations may be a good thing, recently he has shown the ability to get quality players in the later rounds of the draft. The fact this thing with the coaching search has drug on and on is laughable. if he screws this up by hiring someone other than GW he will lose a lot of the respect he has gained during the Gibbs 2 era. He preaches continuity but hiring anyone other than GW is a complete 180. the players, both offensive and defensive want GW, they want this staff, these players on the roster want to win for each other, and the coaching staff. If he botches this, not sure how much I can keep defending him.

01-23-2008, 01:03 PM	#5
sandtrapjack The Starter Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,994	Re: Redskins assistants upset and getting grief in Mobile Does not make sense to me how they could say that. Sounds to me that lines of responsibility were clearly drawn with the promotion and that is a step in the the right direction. I still think that one of the reasons why no "clear-cut" candidate has been identified is that candidate may still be on the staff of either the Patriots or Giants. Remember, that we are only allowed to hear only what the media wants us to hear. Take it with a grain of salt, but move on. Snyder may be waiting to talk to coaches from those staffs. Steve Spagnoulo of the Giants comes to mind. I may be wrong, but I think I am right in saying that Snyder is going about the process carefully and methodically to get just the right person for the job, the best one available. I would think he would like those lines of responsibility drawn prior to hiring a HC. IT just makes sense is all.

01-23-2008, 01:32 PM	#15
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Re: Redskins assistants upset and getting grief in Mobile So my question is, do you all think it's true? I mean, have we immediately reverted right back to "laughingstock" ways with the way we're handling this search? Was the announcement of Cerrato's promotion poorly timed? How could Snyder "accidentally" say Cerrato will have final say on the roster? This is a circus IMO. And not just because we didn't hire GW. __________________ Tardy

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