2 things that are really bothering me

[jrtmolar]

1. I hate to think about this but I wonder if anyone in the Redskin organization HAS ACTUALLY ASKED THE NFL to move the game. Every time Gibbs or Snyder gets asked they say something like "well Im not sure that can be done or Ive been focused on the bills . . ." Fine understood. Youre telling me there isnt someone else that can do it? I would love for the Skins to release a statement saying WE ASKED THE NFL TO MOVE THE GAME AND THEY SAID NO. I know there are other coaches that would INSIST the game get moved, go public, make their case . . .Im not asking for that (althoughI would like it. I just want someone to ask!


2. Gibbs is a pushover, hes so distant, comes across as so disinterested. Did you hear him talking about the 10 man tribute to Sean in the press conference. HE DIDNT EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT!!!. He commented something to the effect, "I cant comment on that until I talk to Gregg" What the hell is up with that? How can there be so poor communication between coaches that a move like that is not passed by him?

Dont get me started with the timeout thing. "I asked the ref if I could do it and what he said seemed like a yes but I take full resposibility" He sounds like a little kid who is trying to take the blame but wants us to know that other kids were involved. He has to be losing respect among some playes and based on the fact the 10 man tribute wasnt even cleared with him prior to doing it . . .from his coaches as well.

[WaldSkins]

i 100 percent agree, i knew about the 10 man tribute on thursday. We were discussing it on here. How did we all know and Coach Joe not.

[SmootSmack]

For what it's worth, I've heard that it's not that Gibbs was not aware they were thinking of doing it. He just never actually gave the final ok for it. But, at the same time, he does give Williams total autonomy on defense.

I don't believe for one minute any of the players or coaches worth a damn have quit. The fans? Sure plenty of them have, but I lost what little respect I had left for most Redskins fans today during the moment of silence. So who cares about them

Don't we have basically this exact same thread elsewhere?

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

For what it's worth, I've heard that it's not that Gibbs was not aware they were thinking of doing it. He just never actually gave the final ok for it. But, at the same time, he does give Williams total autonomy on defense.

I don't believe for one minute any of the players or coaches worth a damn have quit. The fans? Sure plenty of them have, but I lost what little respect I had left for most Redskins fans today during the moment of silence. So who cares about them

Don't we have basically this exact same thread elsewhere?

Don't lump everyone at the stadium as ignorant during the moment of silence. I wasn't there, but it sounded on TV as if a single voice shouted "we love you Sean" and there was a brief cheer. It certainly didn't sound like the entire stadium ignored the request for silence.

[Dlyne8r]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Don't lump everyone at the stadium as ignorant during the moment of silence. I wasn't there, but it sounded on TV as if a single voice shouted "we love you Sean" and there was a brief cheer. It certainly didn't sound like the entire stadium ignored the request for silence.

Yeah, we weren'y there either but my wife said she heard the exact same thing on TV. Hopefully the majority displayed respect during the moment of silence.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Dlyne8r

Yeah, we weren'y there either but my wife said she heard the exact same thing on TV. Hopefully the majority displayed respect during the moment of silence.

And you know what's sad? The COWBOYS moment of silence was ABSOLUTELY quiet. Not a single person in that stadium spoke.

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Don't lump everyone at the stadium as ignorant during the moment of silence. I wasn't there, but it sounded on TV as if a single voice shouted "we love you Sean" and there was a brief cheer. It certainly didn't sound like the entire stadium ignored the request for silence.

In this day and age of big money football it is hard for the true fan to be there. The cost big time to take a family to a baseball game much less a NFL game. It's just not in the cards for most. That being said i think you now get a lot of uninformed people that just wanted to be seen or be at big time events. Sorry but that is the way it is with scalpers and corporations buying up most the tickets. These for the most part are not true fans.

[WaldSkins]

yeah i was there and i heard all the people yelling during there moment of silence, kinda messed up

[SmootSmack]

In my book they are now tied with Eagles fans as worst in all of sports.

[prinzeofmoval]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

In my book they are now tied with Eagles fans as worst in all of sports.

Ouch!!!!we all know philly fans are the worst..i.e. cheering a broken neck micheal irvin..but that is flat out wrong...i hate to say it but you guys are right about Gibbs..as long as he's there we have nothing.he miss uses timeouts..not aggressive when needed such as the 4th and 1 vs the cowboys when we have momentum..and going for it on forth down instead of the field goal vs tampa bay..even a 10 year old playing madden can manage a game better..Gibbs aint the way he used to be..he's too care free..and we need intensity..vote Cowher for 08'

[Redskin]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

Ouch!!!!we all know philly fans are the worst..i.e. cheering a broken neck micheal irvin..but that is flat out wrong...i hate to say it but you guys are right about Gibbs..as long as he's there we have nothing.he miss uses timeouts..not aggressive when needed such as the 4th and 1 vs the cowboys when we have momentum..and going for it on forth down instead of the field goal vs tampa bay..even a 10 year old playing madden can manage a game better..Gibbs aint the way he used to be..he's too care free..and we need intensity..vote Cowher for 08'

Ok, what your saying is all in hindsight and could have gone either way which makes these points irrelevent. He didnt go for it on 4th and 1 against the cowboys but if he failed he would be taking even more heat. Did we not have momentum in tampa bay, they had something like 30 total yards in the 2nd half. He took a gamble that you say he should have taken in one position and not in another? Contradict yourself more when making points thats the way to go. With these fans hes damned if he does or damned if he dont.

On that note Gibbs as made a few mistakes but there is nothing he can do about the players playing bad or being injured maybe Im making excuses for him and I was just as angry with the double time out last night but if he did ask the official and the official said he could do it.....<-that right there is the only thing that I can hold gibbs accountable for, stupid and unexcusable but he was probably under a bit of stress

[Dlyne8r]

Given what this organization has been through this past week, I can practically excuse most anything they have done that wasn't "normal."

[jrtmolar]

can anybody shed light on us asking the NFL to move the game?

FWIW, I agree, FROM MY LIVINGROOM it certainly didnt come across as disrespect, simply a fan yelling we love you Sean

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jrtmolar

can anybody shed light on us asking the NFL to move the game?

FWIW, I agree, FROM MY LIVINGROOM it certainly didnt come across as disrespect, simply a fan yelling we love you Sean

I could have sworn I read/heard somewhere that we decided not to ask. This was on Friday I think

[Dlyne8r]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I could have sworn I read/heard somewhere that we decided not to ask. This was on Friday I think

I'm too emotionally exhausted to verify, but I believe I read that also in Redskin's Insider last Friday.