Guest Blog From the Insider (good read)

Stacks42 · 11-13-2007, 04:15 PM

I think a lot of us feel this way.

Guest Blog - Redskins Insider

GMScud · 11-13-2007, 04:46 PM

Wow. That was pretty verbose, but the guy hits the nail on the head. Even the part about throwing his Skins t-shirt in the trash (I threw my fav hat out the living room window, literally, this past Sunday).

It's like I always say about the Skins- How can I love something so much that never loves me back? We stink, we've stunk since 1992, and I don't think it's getting better anytime soon. And you know what? Come Sunday I'll still have a fast pulse, I'll be a ball of nerves, and I'll be watching the Redskins regardless. Are we all blind masochists?? Hail. Sigh....

redsk1 · 11-13-2007, 04:49 PM

That's a little overboard & a little too pessimistic. Very depressing read...

You know for a bad as I take a loss I have to come back down to reality. For all those that want to just look at the negative...you could be an Eagles fan. They've only been to 2 SB's and lost both. They've never won. You could be a Cards fan, Seahawks fan, Falcon's fan, Buffalo fan, Chief fan (longtime since their SB), Jets fan, and the list goes on (yea the Jets have 1). We've won 3 which is more than probably 75% of the rest of the league. Hell right now being a proud 49er fan is excrutiating.

That's what got me thru Sunday night. It could be worse.

GMScud · 11-13-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by redsk1

That's a little overboard & a little too pessimistic. Very depressing read...

You know for a bad as I take a loss I have to come back down to reality. For all those that want to just look at the negative...you could be an Eagles fan. They've only been to 2 SB's and lost both. They've never won. You could be a Cards fan, Seahawks fan, Falcon's fan, Buffalo fan, Chief fan (longtime since their SB), Jets fan, and the list goes on (yea the Jets have 1). We've won 3 which is more than probably 75% of the rest of the league. Hell right now being a proud 49er fan is excrutiating.

That's what got me thru Sunday night. It could be worse.

You're absolutely right about where we stand as a franchise vs. other teams as far as past success. We certainly have a better overall tradition than most teams out there in regard to winning. The only teams close are Dallas, SF, Pitt, GB, NE, maybe a few others. It's just SO hard right now to be a fan because of all the built up expectations surrounding Gibbs V2.0. And for me, it's not as much that we are losing right now, it's HOW we're losing that's making me crazy. It's just excruciating.

70Chip · 11-13-2007, 06:24 PM

Good grief. Some things are better left unsaid.

What we need is a little more stoicism around here. Everybody's losing their heads. Things are never as bad or as good as they seem. What boggles my mind is that I don't remember that many people even picking the Redskins to make the playoffs here at The Warpath and you would expect a good deal of irrational exuberance in a place like this. Now, we're 5-4 and they act like they expected 9 - 0. The smart play is to just watch and make any sweeping analysis after the season ends.

SmootSmack · 11-13-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

Good grief. Some things are better left unsaid.

What we need is a little more stoicism around here. Everybody's losing their heads. Things are never as bad or as good as they seem. What boggles my mind is that I don't remember that many people even picking the Redskins to make the playoffs here at The Warpath and you would expect a good deal of irrational exuberance in a place like this. Now, we're 5-4 and they act like they expected 9 - 0. The smart play is to just watch and make any sweeping analysis after the season ends.

Definitely agree. (In spite of your deep hatred for my hard earned labor you're ok

). Some people really need lives outside of the Redskins too it seems. Some of the reactions just seem to reflect really pathetic people.

GMScud · 11-13-2007, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Definitely agree. (In spite of your deep hatred for my hard earned labor you're ok

). Some people really need lives outside of the Redskins too it seems. Some of the reactions just seem to reflect really pathetic people.

Yes and no. Really pathetic people? I wouldn't go that far. This guy is obviously a very intelligent grad student, and is only 25 years old. We know nothing about him other than he's a die hard Skins fan who's over-zealous and over-analytical. As far as his feelings about the skins, I agree with him. But I can put things in perspective. I love my team, and when they lose I'm definitely bummed out for a few hours on Sunday. But it doesn't carry over to my love life, my job, or my relationships with other people.

Another thing to consider is this guy wrote this thing on either Sunday or Monday, with the sting of the loss fresh in his head. I think calling him really pathetic is a bit of a stretch. Who on this site hasn't felt absolutely awful, whether it be for days or just hours, about the Redskins struggles over the years??

MTK · 11-13-2007, 04:50 PM

Some people need to get out more, seriously.

skinsfan_nn · 11-13-2007, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Some people need to get out more, seriously.

No doubt! And woulda, shouda, coulda, been 8-1 aweful easy being a Monday morning QB.

Who would have ever forseen this amount of injuries we are dealing with again this year? Not an excuse.....JUST A FACT!

Yes, losing SUCKS,I agree. But we are sitting at 5-4 with a winning record and control our own destiny.

When Monday comes around the WINS carrry over for a while. The losses as I've aged are out of the memory bank, and I'm thinking about next week. Can't live in the past when it's bad stuff......LIFE IS WAY TO SHORT!

SouperMeister · 11-13-2007, 05:01 PM

It's our recent culture of losing that made 2005 so special for Skins fans. Blowing out the Cowboys in the regular season felt almost as good as a Super Bowl. I feel sorry for the blogger - too young to have enjoyed the glory years and far more cynical than any 25 year old should be.

Stacks42 · 11-13-2007, 05:05 PM

I am not as extreme as the blogger, but come 4th quarter time, I usually have to sit by myself. Except for the games I go to, then its ok to scream and cheer my head off for the skins

rypper11 · 11-13-2007, 06:30 PM

Remember when being a fan was fun? I used to root, root, root for the home team. Day afterward I'd run and play. I'd scream at a dropped pass and cheer for a touchdown. I can still enjoy a good hockey or college basketball game. I can even go watch a high school football game, cheering wildly but not really caring who wins. Why are the Skins different? It's the only aspect of my life that makes me miserable that I just can't shake. Remember when Gibbs said that "winning no longer brings joy but losing is the most miserable thing in the world"? Fans of only one team are happy at the end of the year. Even if we pull it together and win the Super Bowl, by March I'll be fixated on the '08 season. Pathetic, huh?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-13-2007, 07:05 PM

I read JLC's blog, but it's also obvious that the guy really detests Danny Snyder (rightly or wrongly), he had a little incident with Gibbs at a press conference, and he seems to get a little emotional about the team. He grew up a Ravens fan and doesn't particularly care for the organization. I'm not saying we should disregard what he has to say, because oftentimes it is fairly informative and interesting. I'm just saying that you should know where he is coming from (just as you know should know that I've got a pro-Redskins bias).

skinsguy · 11-13-2007, 10:14 PM

I will admit that I am probably optimistic to the point to where it becomes sickening. Maybe it orginates from witnessing the glory years of this team. When I look at the Washington Redskins, I look at an elite franchise. I see them as the team they were in the 1980's. I realize they have not been that team since the 80's, but that is still how I view this team. Now, I know some of you will say, "but Skinsguy, it's not the 80's anymore, get real! It's 2007, and the Redskins have not returned to glory." However, I look at it like this. A true champion knows how it feels to win, and knows how it feels to lose.

I see my Redskins as the champion franchise they are, going through the pains of knowing how it feels to lose and to be at the bottom. We have already felt victory. I don't like the fact that we have went through so many losing seasons or seasons at 8-8, but I can't help to think that when this team finally gets it right (and believe me, they will,) you won't see a team that takes winning for granted. You'll see a team that will be so afraid to return to the Redskins of the 90's, that they'll keep that fire with in them to keep winning. I guess maybe that's a bit of kool-aid for ya, but in all seriousness, I know this franchise is still a proud franchise. I know Daniel Synder wants to win, and I think he's doing everything he can to get this team back to the Redskins of the 80's. We will get there folks, whether it will be with Joe Gibbs, Gregg Williams, or some other head coach. We will discover how to be great again, and I think once we get there, we'll all be as obnovious as the New England fans...LOL!

11-13-2007, 04:15 PM	#1
Stacks42 Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arlington Va. Age: 48 Posts: 834	Guest Blog From the Insider (good read) I think a lot of us feel this way. Guest Blog - Redskins Insider __________________ The NEXT special teams coordinator

11-13-2007, 04:46 PM	#2
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Re: Guest Blog From the Insider (good read) Wow. That was pretty verbose, but the guy hits the nail on the head. Even the part about throwing his Skins t-shirt in the trash (I threw my fav hat out the living room window, literally, this past Sunday). It's like I always say about the Skins- How can I love something so much that never loves me back? We stink, we've stunk since 1992, and I don't think it's getting better anytime soon. And you know what? Come Sunday I'll still have a fast pulse, I'll be a ball of nerves, and I'll be watching the Redskins regardless. Are we all blind masochists?? Hail. Sigh.... __________________ Tardy

11-13-2007, 04:49 PM	#3
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Guest Blog From the Insider (good read) That's a little overboard & a little too pessimistic. Very depressing read... You know for a bad as I take a loss I have to come back down to reality. For all those that want to just look at the negative...you could be an Eagles fan. They've only been to 2 SB's and lost both. They've never won. You could be a Cards fan, Seahawks fan, Falcon's fan, Buffalo fan, Chief fan (longtime since their SB), Jets fan, and the list goes on (yea the Jets have 1). We've won 3 which is more than probably 75% of the rest of the league. Hell right now being a proud 49er fan is excrutiating. That's what got me thru Sunday night. It could be worse.

11-13-2007, 06:24 PM	#5
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: Guest Blog From the Insider (good read) Good grief. Some things are better left unsaid. What we need is a little more stoicism around here. Everybody's losing their heads. Things are never as bad or as good as they seem. What boggles my mind is that I don't remember that many people even picking the Redskins to make the playoffs here at The Warpath and you would expect a good deal of irrational exuberance in a place like this. Now, we're 5-4 and they act like they expected 9 - 0. The smart play is to just watch and make any sweeping analysis after the season ends. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

11-13-2007, 04:50 PM	#8
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,462	Re: Guest Blog From the Insider (good read) Some people need to get out more, seriously. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-13-2007, 05:01 PM	#10
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 60 Posts: 3,419	Re: Guest Blog From the Insider (good read) It's our recent culture of losing that made 2005 so special for Skins fans. Blowing out the Cowboys in the regular season felt almost as good as a Super Bowl. I feel sorry for the blogger - too young to have enjoyed the glory years and far more cynical than any 25 year old should be.

11-13-2007, 05:05 PM	#11
Stacks42 Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arlington Va. Age: 48 Posts: 834	Re: Guest Blog From the Insider (good read) I am not as extreme as the blogger, but come 4th quarter time, I usually have to sit by myself. Except for the games I go to, then its ok to scream and cheer my head off for the skins __________________ The NEXT special teams coordinator

11-13-2007, 06:30 PM	#12
rypper11 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,228	Re: Guest Blog From the Insider (good read) Remember when being a fan was fun? I used to root, root, root for the home team. Day afterward I'd run and play. I'd scream at a dropped pass and cheer for a touchdown. I can still enjoy a good hockey or college basketball game. I can even go watch a high school football game, cheering wildly but not really caring who wins. Why are the Skins different? It's the only aspect of my life that makes me miserable that I just can't shake. Remember when Gibbs said that "winning no longer brings joy but losing is the most miserable thing in the world"? Fans of only one team are happy at the end of the year. Even if we pull it together and win the Super Bowl, by March I'll be fixated on the '08 season. Pathetic, huh?

11-13-2007, 07:05 PM	#13
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: Guest Blog From the Insider (good read) I read JLC's blog, but it's also obvious that the guy really detests Danny Snyder (rightly or wrongly), he had a little incident with Gibbs at a press conference, and he seems to get a little emotional about the team. He grew up a Ravens fan and doesn't particularly care for the organization. I'm not saying we should disregard what he has to say, because oftentimes it is fairly informative and interesting. I'm just saying that you should know where he is coming from (just as you know should know that I've got a pro-Redskins bias).

11-13-2007, 10:14 PM	#14
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Guest Blog From the Insider (good read) I will admit that I am probably optimistic to the point to where it becomes sickening. Maybe it orginates from witnessing the glory years of this team. When I look at the Washington Redskins, I look at an elite franchise. I see them as the team they were in the 1980's. I realize they have not been that team since the 80's, but that is still how I view this team. Now, I know some of you will say, "but Skinsguy, it's not the 80's anymore, get real! It's 2007, and the Redskins have not returned to glory." However, I look at it like this. A true champion knows how it feels to win, and knows how it feels to lose. I see my Redskins as the champion franchise they are, going through the pains of knowing how it feels to lose and to be at the bottom. We have already felt victory. I don't like the fact that we have went through so many losing seasons or seasons at 8-8, but I can't help to think that when this team finally gets it right (and believe me, they will,) you won't see a team that takes winning for granted. You'll see a team that will be so afraid to return to the Redskins of the 90's, that they'll keep that fire with in them to keep winning. I guess maybe that's a bit of kool-aid for ya, but in all seriousness, I know this franchise is still a proud franchise. I know Daniel Synder wants to win, and I think he's doing everything he can to get this team back to the Redskins of the 80's. We will get there folks, whether it will be with Joe Gibbs, Gregg Williams, or some other head coach. We will discover how to be great again, and I think once we get there, we'll all be as obnovious as the New England fans...LOL! __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

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