A thorough ASS WOOPING!!

[SFREDSKIN]

We made a lot of mistakes in the game, were 2 starting receivers short and still kicked some ass. Great Defense and Jason Campbell just keeps getting better. Forgot to add even Mr. bad case of Vaginitis (Brandon Lloyd) caught a ball.

[jsarno]

This is basically a duplicate thread...but hey, some people accused others of not being around when we win...guess they are around.

What a great game, and great adjustment of changing their play calling!!!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

This is basically a duplicate thread...but hey, some people accused others of not being around when we win...guess they are around.

What a great game, and great adjustment of changing their play calling!!!

What do you think changed in the play calling today??

Just curious.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What do you think changed in the play calling today??

Just curious.

For instance...4th and 2, and we pass.

Or how about our first drive in the second half...8 passing attempts, 4 rushes...a TD (pass to Cooley).

After a fumble by the Lions, the Skins pass to Sellers for a TD, then goes for two and passes.

Just to name a few.

We got away from conservative play calling and used the pass to set up the run...something I've been preaching for a while...and not only did we win, we killed them.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

For instance...4th and 2, and we pass.

Or how about our first drive in the second half...8 passing attempts, 4 rushes...a TD (pass to Cooley).

After a fumble by the Lions, the Skins pass to Sellers for a TD, then goes for two and passes.

Just to name a few.

We got away from conservative play calling and used the pass to set up the run...something I've been preaching for a while...and not only did we win, we killed them.

Funny, we still had more rushes than passes today (35-29), and gained a nearly identical amount of first downs by rushing (11) and passing (12).

I honestly didn't see a radically different game plan out there, just much better execution especially by Campbell who was very sharp.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Funny, we still had more rushes than passes today (35-29), and gained a nearly identical amount of first downs by rushing (11) and passing (12).

I honestly didn't see a radically different game plan out there, just much better execution especially by Campbell who was very sharp.

You're gonna see what you want to see...I put it all in front of you in two different threads. While the first half of the Giants game had a similar plan, the 2nd half was amazingly different...and I'll say it again...no one complained about the play calls in the first half of that game, it was the second half. If you really can't see the difference between the 2nd half vs the Lions and the 2nd half vs the Giants, I can't help you. It's GLARINGLY obvious.

[rypper11]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Funny, we still had more rushes than passes today (35-29), and gained a nearly identical amount of first downs by rushing (11) and passing (12).

I honestly didn't see a radically different game plan out there, just much better execution especially by Campbell who was very sharp.

I completely agree with you. Gameplan has been similar all year. Extremely stiff D is the difference between wins this year. Take away the Giants 2nd half and this is a top 3 D.
Look at the past three years. More rushes = win.
I think going on 4th down is evidence that Gibbs has confidence in the D to shut down anyone and wants to prolong every drive as long as possible.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

For instance...4th and 2, and we pass.

Or how about our first drive in the second half...8 passing attempts, 4 rushes...a TD (pass to Cooley).

After a fumble by the Lions, the Skins pass to Sellers for a TD, then goes for two and passes.

Just to name a few.

We got away from conservative play calling and used the pass to set up the run...something I've been preaching for a while...and not only did we win, we killed them.

Did you mean first drive of the second quarter?

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by jsarno

We got away from conservative play calling and used the pass to set up the run...something I've been preaching for a while...and not only did we win, we killed them.

No, we had a QB hit 70% of his passes.

The Lions used the pass to set up the run. Our D played back and dared them to run.

On D - how many guys did Detroit have on the line? I honestly don't know. Also, it seemed to me that many of our big plays came off play action. Even if the run got stuffed a few times, we kept at it and played off of it.

I wouldnt say the play calling was more aggressive than it has been it the past. I would agree that both the passing and running game showed some more diversity. Seemed like more intermediate routes were run and, of course, the direct snaps. Watch for that in the future with the playaction pass to JC. (Ohhh here's one - direct snap to portis, who hands it ARE on a reverse who throws it to JC who was split out wide).

Seriously, the play calling was simply not that much different than last week. On offense our QB played his best game ever, our defense played lights out ALL GAME- If we were able to make those statements about the Giants game, we would be 4-0.

Seriously, has anyone broken down how Detroit's D was playing us? I didn't hear the commentators say anything about it during the game. I am supposing they played some version of the Cover 2. Did they have 7 or 8 in the box?

Also what % of our offensive plays had 3 or WR's? Just curious.

If it turns out that the majority of our snaps were from the spread offense or their D was playing us pass first - THEN i would concede the pass set up the run. But it seemed to me the offense was pretty much 2WR, 2TE type and the D was playing their front 7 right up on the line. That, to me, says run first both from how we play and what the other side feels they must stop.

[hurrykaine]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What do you think changed in the play calling today??

Just curious.

Old man let Al call the plays today. No way Gibbs/Buges would've called a quick slant on 4th and 2 (defining play of the game).

Not to take any credit away from Gibbs for this win, but letting Al have a free hand (or a freer hand) worked well.

[Monksdown]

That sounds like speculation. Al works around the clock with Joe to develop a scheme that will take advantage of our opponent. Joe uses what he thinks will work, while simultaneously taking recommendations from upstairs. that's my guess.

This weeks opponent could only be described as a wet paper bag.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by hurrykaine

Old man let Al call the plays today. No way Gibbs/Buges would've called a quick slant on 4th and 2 (defining play of the game).

Not to take any credit away from Gibbs for this win, but letting Al have a free hand (or a freer hand) worked well.

Originally Posted by Monksdown

That sounds like speculation. Al works around the clock with Joe to develop a scheme that will take advantage of our opponent. Joe uses what he thinks will work, while simultaneously taking recommendations from upstairs. that's my guess.

Now now - we all know that Joe only calls the plays when we lose.

[JWsleep]

Originally Posted by hurrykaine

Old man let Al call the plays today. No way Gibbs/Buges would've called a quick slant on 4th and 2 (defining play of the game).

Not to take any credit away from Gibbs for this win, but letting Al have a free hand (or a freer hand) worked well.

I'm soooo tired of this line of patter. Like they didn't let Al call the plays all season long and all of last year? Why do you think this? Do you really think Joe Gibbs jumps into the headset relay between Al and JC and just calls some other play? Or that during a drive he tells Al to do something different? Or that he said to Al: look, I respect your playbook and all, but don't call this page or that page or that page?

Here's another possibility: Al is calling the plays in the way he wants, given his consultation with the offensive staff and his knowledge of the players we have and the D we play. And some days it works well, and others it doesn't. I know that lots of us think JG is god, he can't be criticized or whatever (this is obviously an exaggeration, but you get the idea), but this idea that Al is god, and that the success is his but the failure isn't is also incorrect.

[hurrykaine]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

I'm soooo tired of this line of patter. Like they didn't let Al call the plays all season long and all of last year? Why do you think this? Do you really think Joe Gibbs jumps into the headset relay between Al and JC and just calls some other play? Or that during a drive he tells Al to do something different? Or that he said to Al: look, I respect your playbook and all, but don't call this page or that page or that page?

Here's another possibility: Al is calling the plays in the way he wants, given his consultation with the offensive staff and his knowledge of the players we have and the D we play. And some days it works well, and others it doesn't. I know that lots of us think JG is god, he can't be criticized or whatever (this is obviously an exaggeration, but you get the idea), but this idea that Al is god, and that the success is his but the failure isn't is also incorrect.

I think Al did call the plays last year and we stunk up the joint because Brunell didn't know the offense well enough. Not elevating Al to god-like status, but his offense and his play calling are a lot more effective than the high school offense Gibbs, Breaux and Buges ran in 2004.

[Redskins247]

GREAT GAME!!! Complete in all phases I thought....not quite sure why they had Thrash running the bomb but whatever.....GREAT GAME!!!!