The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread

GTripp0012 · 04-09-2007, 03:16 PM

Terry Bradshaw has been very critical of NFL FO's recently because Tim Rattay is still on the market. After Jeff Garcia got signed, no QB on the market had a better year than Rattay did. Yet, he still sits cheap and unsigned on the open market.

It's hardly what I would consider a "critical move", but we should cut Todd Collins to make room for Rattay. Thinking toward the future, Brunell isn't going to be here in 2008. Neither will Collins. If we wait until next year to fill the very important role of backup QB, we are going to have to pay a premium on whoever we want to be our backup.

By signing Tim Rattay to a 3-4 year deal tomorrow and installing him as the third QB, we can get a cheap backup QB and avoid having to outbid someone on the market next year for a QB who we wouldn't be afraid to play. Collins is nothing more than a roster filler with ties to Saunders as is. Rattay SHOULD be a starting QB in this league.

As for next year, we would have 3 guys on the roster who would (should) all be starting for the Falcons. At the very least, given two preseasons, Rattay should be able to play at a moments notice at the top of his game.

Sign this guy! Cut Collins!

Rajmahal33 · 04-09-2007, 03:21 PM

What would we have to pay for him? ballpark?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 04-09-2007, 03:32 PM

I've always liked Tim Rattay and thought he'd be a very good #2 QB and an outstanding #3. My guess is that he could be had for little more than the vet. minimum considering he's drawn so little interest.

tazhog · 04-09-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I've always liked Tim Rattay and thought he'd be a very good #2 QB and an outstanding #3. My guess is that he could be had for little more than the vet. minimum considering he's drawn so little interest.

I thought he'd be a difference maker in Tampa... I didn't even realize Rattay was available (this site is awesome)!
I agree! Sign Rattay for vet min...

12thMan · 04-09-2007, 03:49 PM

I say sign Patrick Ramsey.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 04-09-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I say sign Patrick Ramsey.

He signed in Denver.

Schneed10 · 04-09-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

He signed in Denver.

Whoosh.

That was the sound of a joke going over your head.

GridIron26 · 05-10-2007, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I say sign Patrick Ramsey.

Patrick signed with Broncos

crawfish · 04-09-2007, 03:58 PM

I would sign Ratay and cut Brunell. No need to keep a 37 year old qb coming off major shoulder surgery and 2 1/2 years of below average play. Both Collins and Ratay would be fine as back-ups.

GTripp0012 · 04-09-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by crawfish

I would sign Ratay and cut Brunell. No need to keep a 37 year old qb coming off major shoulder surgery and 2 1/2 years of below average play. Both Collins and Ratay would be fine as back-ups.

There's no reason to keep Collins instead of Brunell. They are both old guys who won't be here after 2008. The difference is one can play and one can not.

Oh, and Brunell just restructed his deal making his cap hit even more relevant. It costs money to get rid of him this year.

crawfish · 04-09-2007, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

There's no reason to keep Collins instead of Brunell. They are both old guys who won't be here after 2008. The difference is one can play and one can not.

Oh, and Brunell just restructed his deal making his cap hit even more relevant. It costs money to get rid of him this year.

Collins has never been given the chance. We already know that Brunell can't play anymore. All he does is throw little dump off passes. Never challenges the defenses downfield. A college QB can do what Brunell did last year. Sorry but dump off passes are not Al S. offense. Brunell can not run this offense. Period. Brunell should go to a west coast offense at this point of his career. Or just retire.

GTripp0012 · 04-09-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by crawfish

Collins has never been given the chance. We already know that Brunell can't play anymore. All he does is throw little dump off passes. Never challenges the defenses downfield. A college QB can do what Brunell did last year. Sorry but dump off passes are not Al S. offense. Brunell can not run this offense. Period. Brunell should go to a west coast offense at this point of his career. Or just retire.

"A college QB can do what Brunell did last year"

That's just totally and utterly incorrect. College/Rookie QBs will not complete 63% of their passes for 6.8 yards per an attempt. It's completely unpresidented.

Watch the highlight reels from the first 9 games of last year. Sure, highlights are a poor way to accurately evaluate talent, but they prove your arguement that "all he does is throw dump passes" and "Never challenges the defense downfield" just dead wrong.

Lots of incorrectness abound here. If you think Collins should be given a chance, tell us what you've seen in him that makes you think he deserves more of a chance than any other QB in the league, particuarly Rattay.

crawfish · 04-09-2007, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

"A college QB can do what Brunell did last year"

That's just totally and utterly incorrect. College/Rookie QBs will not complete 63% of their passes for 6.8 yards per an attempt. It's completely unpresidented.

Watch the highlight reels from the first 9 games of last year. Sure, highlights are a poor way to accurately evaluate talent, but they prove your arguement that "all he does is throw dump passes" and "Never challenges the defense downfield" just dead wrong.

Lots of incorrectness abound here. If you think Collins should be given a chance, tell us what you've seen in him that makes you think he deserves more of a chance than any other QB in the league, particuarly Rattay.

I watched the 1st 9 games and it hurt my eyes. It hurt my eyes watching Brunell be a shadow of his former self and throw for 120 yards. His stats are mostly garbage stats at the end of games and at the end of halfs. So that stat stuff your feeding me isn't the real story.

I'm not by any means dogging on Brunell. I liked him in Jack. But he just can't get it done anymore. He gets hurt too much now and it hurts his play. Father time gets us all. So this is why I think Collins should be given more of a chance. We already know what Mr. Brunell can do. Now let's see what Collins can do. That's all I'm ssaying.

crawfish · 04-09-2007, 04:03 PM

No one knows if Collins can really play or not since he has really never been given the chance. No one knew if Damon Huard could play until he got his chance last year. Lot's of guys can get the job done. Many just never get the chance.

RMSkins · 04-09-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by crawfish

No one knows if Collins can really play or not since he has really never been given the chance. No one knew if Damon Huard could play until he got his chance last year. Lot's of guys can get the job done. Many just never get the chance.

If you watched Todd Collins in last years preseason games you would know that Collins cannot play.

04-09-2007, 03:16 PM	#1
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread Terry Bradshaw has been very critical of NFL FO's recently because Tim Rattay is still on the market. After Jeff Garcia got signed, no QB on the market had a better year than Rattay did. Yet, he still sits cheap and unsigned on the open market. It's hardly what I would consider a "critical move", but we should cut Todd Collins to make room for Rattay. Thinking toward the future, Brunell isn't going to be here in 2008. Neither will Collins. If we wait until next year to fill the very important role of backup QB, we are going to have to pay a premium on whoever we want to be our backup. By signing Tim Rattay to a 3-4 year deal tomorrow and installing him as the third QB, we can get a cheap backup QB and avoid having to outbid someone on the market next year for a QB who we wouldn't be afraid to play. Collins is nothing more than a roster filler with ties to Saunders as is. Rattay SHOULD be a starting QB in this league. As for next year, we would have 3 guys on the roster who would (should) all be starting for the Falcons. At the very least, given two preseasons, Rattay should be able to play at a moments notice at the top of his game. Sign this guy! Cut Collins! __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

04-09-2007, 03:49 PM	#5
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread I say sign Patrick Ramsey.

04-09-2007, 03:58 PM	#9
crawfish Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 20	Re: The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread I would sign Ratay and cut Brunell. No need to keep a 37 year old qb coming off major shoulder surgery and 2 1/2 years of below average play. Both Collins and Ratay would be fine as back-ups.

04-09-2007, 04:03 PM	#14
crawfish Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 20	Re: The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread No one knows if Collins can really play or not since he has really never been given the chance. No one knew if Damon Huard could play until he got his chance last year. Lot's of guys can get the job done. Many just never get the chance.

04-09-2007, 03:21 PM	#2
Rajmahal33 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 478	Re: The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread What would we have to pay for him? ballpark? __________________ McNasty FTW!

04-09-2007, 03:32 PM	#3
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread I've always liked Tim Rattay and thought he'd be a very good #2 QB and an outstanding #3. My guess is that he could be had for little more than the vet. minimum considering he's drawn so little interest.

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