Have We Seen The Last of Archuleta in a Skins Uniform?

[SmootSmack]

On behalf of holmester (who can't start a thread of his own yet, I had thought about starting this as well actually)

washingtonpost.com

"Redskins Notes: The Redskins faced a deadline yesterday to exercise $5 million options on safety Adam Archuleta, according to league sources, and Lloyd. They executed Lloyd's option, but reached an agreement with Archuleta to push back his deadline. Both players are guaranteed the money in one form or another, but the decision to delay the move for Archuleta could be a bid to buy more time in order to trade or perhaps cut him."

So what does it all mean? Is he on the way out? Are they holding off on the option to see how much some other moves might cost? Is this much ado about nothing?

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So what does it all mean? Is he on the way out? Are they holding off on the option to see how much some other moves might cost? Is this much ado about nothing?

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Sorry with all the questions I kinda had to go old school batman there....

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Stay tuned for updates on the same warpath channel at the same warpath time!!!!


Sorry with all the questions I kinda had to go old school batman there....

Haha. I was actually thinking the same thing as I wrote it

[GMScud]

All that money and the cap hit we'd take to cut him, plus our emphasis thus far in the offseason on defense, might as well keep him around to see if we can squeeze some production out of that ridiculous contract he got. Keep in mind people that our entire defense, not just AA, stunk out loud in '06..

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

On behalf of holmester (who can't start a thread of his own yet, I had thought about starting this as well actually)

washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines

"Redskins Notes: The Redskins faced a deadline yesterday to exercise $5 million options on safety Adam Archuleta, according to league sources, and Lloyd. They executed Lloyd's option, but reached an agreement with Archuleta to push back his deadline. Both players are guaranteed the money in one form or another, but the decision to delay the move for Archuleta could be a bid to buy more time in order to trade or perhaps cut him."

So what does it all mean? Is he on the way out? Are they holding off on the option to see how much some other moves might cost? Is this much ado about nothing?

Probably the latter. I can't see them taking a significant cap hit unless they restructure Springs' deal and that doesn't look likely at this point.

Definately something to keep our eyes on though.

[xxjuschylnxx]

archuleta played horrible last year, this we all know. however, what most of us know but cant see is the fact that archuleta is as hard a worker off the field as any player in the nfl and regardless of his performance (last year being the worst due to a new system), all of us fans can rest assured that he will bounce back.

my opinion is that he should stay. we'll get nothing for him if we were to trade and cutting him will cost us. if no one else will, i stand by adam and support him, he is a skin isn't he?

[bigSkinsfan61]

I say keep adam. We cannot absorb a major cap hit , likr the one that comes along with him being cut. and with any luck with our db situation he shud be able to make a difference this year

[GoSkins!]

I don't understand why people keep saying we can't absorb Arch's cap hit. He has a 9 mil release fee, but is due a 2.5 mil salary. That means it costs the team 6.5 mil to release him. We have 10 million right now. Why did we push back other players salaries and not sign free agents unless we had a plan to release a big cap hit guy? As I have said before, maybe they have a deal in place to trade for Bly and need money for him, or if that doesn't work, they will cut Arch.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by GoSkins!

I don't understand why people keep saying we can't absorb Arch's cap hit. He has a 9 mil release fee, but is due a 2.5 mil salary. That means it costs the team 6.5 mil to release him. We have 10 million right now. Why did we push back other players salaries and not sign free agents unless we had a plan to release a big cap hit guy? As I have said before, maybe they have a deal in place to trade for Bly and need money for him, or if that doesn't work, they will cut Arch.

EXACTLY.

I've been going blue in the face trying to get people to understand this around these parts.

The Skins have cleared $10 million in cap space. Rookies will fit in about $3-$4 million of space. They're clearly preparing to take a big cap hit.

If they kept Springs, he'll cost $7.3 million as his contract stands now. If they trade him, he'll essentially cost us the same thing. So even after trading him, we'll still have $10 million in space. The writing is on the wall; they cleared this cap space to release somebody, absorb the hit now, and clear them off of our troubled 2008 and 2009 books. This move by the Skins in delaying Archuleta's payment is clearly a sign that the team is preparing to make a move.

He's as good as gone in my opinion.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

EXACTLY.

I've been going blue in the face trying to get people to understand this around these parts.

The Skins have cleared $10 million in cap space. Rookies will fit in about $3-$4 million of space. They're clearly preparing to take a big cap hit.

If they kept Springs, he'll cost $7.3 million as his contract stands now. If they trade him, he'll essentially cost us the same thing. So even after trading him, we'll still have $10 million in space. The writing is on the wall; they cleared this cap space to release somebody, absorb the hit now, and clear them off of our troubled 2008 and 2009 books. This move by the Skins in delaying Archuleta's payment is clearly a sign that the team is preparing to make a move.

He's as good as gone in my opinion.

David Patten is also a 2 mil or such cap hit and he's like our non-teams playing 4th receiver. I'm not sure pushing back the bonus means anything in light of the fact that he's guarenteed it no matter what.

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by GoSkins!

I don't understand why people keep saying we can't absorb Arch's cap hit. He has a 9 mil release fee, but is due a 2.5 mil salary. That means it costs the team 6.5 mil to release him. We have 10 million right now. Why did we push back other players salaries and not sign free agents unless we had a plan to release a big cap hit guy? As I have said before, maybe they have a deal in place to trade for Bly and need money for him, or if that doesn't work, they will cut Arch.

Originally Posted by Schneed10

EXACTLY.

I've been going blue in the face trying to get people to understand this around these parts.

The Skins have cleared $10 million in cap space. Rookies will fit in about $3-$4 million of space. They're clearly preparing to take a big cap hit.

If they kept Springs, he'll cost $7.3 million as his contract stands now. If they trade him, he'll essentially cost us the same thing. So even after trading him, we'll still have $10 million in space. The writing is on the wall; they cleared this cap space to release somebody, absorb the hit now, and clear them off of our troubled 2008 and 2009 books. This move by the Skins in delaying Archuleta's payment is clearly a sign that the team is preparing to make a move.

He's as good as gone in my opinion.

Double true!

It definitely looks like we've freed cap space to take a big deadcap hit, and the only 3 players that logically fit the mold are Arch, Lloyd, and Patten.

Originally Posted by offiss

AA want's out just as bad as we want him out, that is why they have an agreement to extend his bonus, I would be fairly sure that he is willing to kick back money if it lands him with the right team, he knows he's going to get a big check regardless, I just think he was so humilited last season that he has something to prove and knows he can't do it in Williams system, he knows his strengths and weakness's and wasen't used to his strength and from what I can remember he flat out called us liers about the condition of how he would be used when he signed. I think something will get done I just don't think he will bring back anything but some cap relief.

Agreed. I also think Arch is the guy to go.

However I still think we can get something in a trade for him. Keep in mind this is a guy who LAST year commanded a $10M signing bonus. Obviously we overpaid, but if we didn't someone else would have surely given him $5M-$7M at least.

This is the same guy that can now be had for the LEAGUE MINIMUM in 2007. And his salary for 2008 is only $1M. And the acquiring team doesn't have to give him any signing bonus or any bonus whatsoever on top of his salary. And the acquiring team can cut him at any time for a deadcap hit of ZERO if things don't work out.

Is this not worth something to someone? Can a player's stock fall so far in one year?

My money's on a trade to the Bears. They wanted him bad last year, plus their D is good enough that Arch won't have to do too much. And like offiss suggested, maybe Arch would even give back some of the money to play for the defending NFC champs.

[freddyg12]

interesting scenario, I'm sure this is done sometimes w/players we just don't hear of it often. It would certainly seem that we're looking at all options, or maybe he & his agent are looking at ways to get him out.

I wonder how much of his play last year could be attributed to the supposed coaching rift between safeties & corners. Granted he's never been a cover guy, but it wouldn't help to have 2 coaches telling you to play 2 different ways. ST also was out of place & bit on a lot of play action fakes.

Loyd better shut up & play ball. I still wouldn't be surprised if he's either benched or let go by season's end.

[diehardskin2982]

AA could be traded to a team who use the cover 2 system and be quite effective (Bears) he has value for us to get picks. It' s not like he was a PR nightmare. I hope we package him with Springs to get houston's 2nd & 3rd round or something

[celts32]

The only way they should let him out of here is if he gives up bonus money like Lavar did.

[jdlea]

I think if they're gonna cut him, they just need to go ahead and do it and take the cap this year instead of next. They're gonna need the cap spcae next season.