Gregg Williams has to go

Oakland Red · 11-20-2006, 08:10 PM

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Jason LaCanfora points out some of the serious mistakes that Gregg Williams has made in terms of personnel, and it seems that the defense is no longer playing hard under his leadership.

I think that Joe Gibbs is going to ask Williams to leave after the season. There isn't any way we can go forward with him at the helm. The players don't seem to respond to him, he has made some very poor personnel decisions, his fairness is in question, and the field tactics he uses may no longer be adequate.

70Chip · 11-20-2006, 08:24 PM

I think it would be a big mistake to let Coach Williams go. He may leave anyways, he could have other opprotunities, but I don't think he should be forced.

Oakland Red · 11-20-2006, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

I think it would be a big mistake to let Coach Williams go. He may leave anyways, he could have other opprotunities, but I don't think he should be forced.

You may be right, but what about the substance of Jason LaCanfora's article and the points he makes?

mheisig · 11-20-2006, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Oakland Red

You may be right, but what about the substance of Jason LaCanfora's article and the points he makes?

It's a blog, not an article. Granted, internet news articles have declined greatly in quality, but blogs have virtually no credibility. Any dumbass can say anything and everything he wants with no strings attached.

Ironic, then, that I have a link to my blog in my sig, is it not?

SkinsLove24/7 · 11-20-2006, 08:28 PM

Wow. Talk about jumping the gun here. Think of the past two seasons under GW. The defense has been lights out. We were all so happy when we inked him for an extension in the offseason. If anyone made mistakes it was Snyder going out and attempting to upgrade the defense when it either wasn't needed and basically didn't work. The problem this season seems to be basically just a lack of skill on defense. I don't think this is GW's fault. Letting him go could be the worst move the team could make at this point.

BrunellMVP? · 11-21-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinsLove24/7

Wow. Talk about jumping the gun here. Think of the past two seasons under GW. The defense has been lights out. We were all so happy when we inked him for an extension in the offseason. If anyone made mistakes it was Snyder going out and attempting to upgrade the defense when it either wasn't needed and basically didn't work. The problem this season seems to be basically just a lack of skill on defense. I don't think this is GW's fault. Letting him go could be the worst move the team could make at this point.

Lights out? last year? don't think so...the rankings system is flawed, the skins always give up a ton of yards at the most inopportune times...and points when we need a stand. this is how its been this year and last year. As for snyder's influence, true in the past, not true recently...Williams wanted these guys...he asked for them...
my whole problem with williams is that he refuses to alter his scheme to fit his players, rather he sticks to his ridged philosophy...the great coaches get the most out of their players...they design plans where their players can excel, williams (nor saunders- but i'll give him time) is not doing that. he's so blinded by his own genius that he won't do whats best for the team...which is to alter the system catered towards individual strengths.

atomicnixon · 11-21-2006, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinsLove24/7

Wow. Talk about jumping the gun here. Think of the past two seasons under GW. The defense has been lights out. We were all so happy when we inked him for an extension in the offseason. If anyone made mistakes it was Snyder going out and attempting to upgrade the defense when it either wasn't needed and basically didn't work. The problem this season seems to be basically just a lack of skill on defense. I don't think this is GW's fault. Letting him go could be the worst move the team could make at this point.

So true. When they say this a "what have you done for me lately league," they are right. Do you not remember the 2004 and 2005 Redskins Defense? It is having the same problems that the 2004 Redskins offense had, and the next year the offense came out swinging. I HOPE TO GOD GREGG WILLIAMS STAYS. It would be a sad day in Redskins history if we cut him loose. I guarentee, we will make a splash in Free Agency this year, and draft some good defensive backs, and the Defense will come out swinging.

The inconsistancy in the Redskins coaching staff could be what has hurt the team the most since Gibbs' last tenure at the helm. The Defense will bounce back, I have no doubt.

Side Note: Gregg Williams had this happen to him once when he was in Tennessee and the next year the Defense took the Titans to the Super Bowl.

SkinsLove24/7 · 11-20-2006, 08:29 PM

LOL...I just can't get over this. I think your just trying to start rumors or something. Such BS.

wolfeskins · 11-20-2006, 08:35 PM

i dont know how much say he has when it comes to the players brought in or let go. i still feel he's a great defensive coach. i also feel gibbs is very loyal to him and would not ask him to leave, especially considering it was williams defense that gave the skins any chance at winning in 04 and it was williams defense that,for the most part, carried the team in 05. the defense is bad this year but they should be much better next season.

Oakland Red · 11-20-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfeskins

i dont know how much say he has when it comes to the players brought in or let go. i still feel he's a great defensive coach. i also feel gibbs is very loyal to him and would not ask him to leave, especially considering it was williams defense that gave the skins any chance at winning in 04 and it was williams defense that,for the most part, carried the team in 05. the defense is bad this year but they should be much better next season.

The defense performed well the past couple of years, that is true. Will these players respond to Williams now and in the future? I doubt it personally. I think that the problems we have on offense are correctable, but I think that on the defensive side we need new management, as in Greg Blache, if we are going to make progress. I might be mistaken. But I know I would feel better if we had a fresh start with Blache.

wolfeskins · 11-20-2006, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Oakland Red

The defense performed well the past couple of years, that is true. Will these players respond to Williams now and in the future? I doubt it personally. I think that the problems we have on offense are correctable, but I think that on the defensive side we need new management, as in Greg Blache, if we are going to make progress. I might be mistaken. But I know I would feel better if we had a fresh start with Blache.

well you are definately entitled to your own opinion but i have to respectfuly disagree. i don't see how 1 bad defensive season constitutes the fireing of one of the best d-cor. in the nfl.

i also feel that the players should be more upset with themselves than with greg williams. i don't think his schemes have changed as much as the performance of the players.

dall-assblows · 11-20-2006, 08:35 PM

i really truly believe that we are having an off year on defense, much like the ravens last year

dall-assblows · 11-20-2006, 08:36 PM

big mistake if you let him go

Pocket$ $traight · 11-20-2006, 08:49 PM

This is the problem with society now, everyone wants a quick fix. To claim that G. Williams has completely lost his ability to put a top defense on the field is ridiculous. I am tired of people who say blow the team up and fire everybody. It is plain stupid. O.k. so we fire everybody and cut all of the overpriced free agents then what are we left with? An expansion team. Yeah, that is a great idea...

SmootSmack · 11-20-2006, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

This is the problem with society now, everyone wants a quick fix. To claim that G. Williams has completely lost his ability to put a top defense on the field is ridiculous. I am tired of people who say blow the team up and fire everybody. It is plain stupid. O.k. so we fire everybody and cut all of the overpriced free agents then what are we left with? An expansion team. Yeah, that is a great idea...

Yeah, the irony is people want to make all these widespread wholesale changes yet at the same time complain that the organization has no stability and patience

11-20-2006, 08:10 PM	#1
Oakland Red Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland, Calif. Posts: 268	Gregg Williams has to go Redskins Insider Jason LaCanfora points out some of the serious mistakes that Gregg Williams has made in terms of personnel, and it seems that the defense is no longer playing hard under his leadership. I think that Joe Gibbs is going to ask Williams to leave after the season. There isn't any way we can go forward with him at the helm. The players don't seem to respond to him, he has made some very poor personnel decisions, his fairness is in question, and the field tactics he uses may no longer be adequate.

11-20-2006, 08:24 PM	#2
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: Gregg Williams has to go I think it would be a big mistake to let Coach Williams go. He may leave anyways, he could have other opprotunities, but I don't think he should be forced. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

11-20-2006, 08:28 PM	#5
SkinsLove24/7 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bowie, MD Age: 37 Posts: 423	Re: Gregg Williams has to go Wow. Talk about jumping the gun here. Think of the past two seasons under GW. The defense has been lights out. We were all so happy when we inked him for an extension in the offseason. If anyone made mistakes it was Snyder going out and attempting to upgrade the defense when it either wasn't needed and basically didn't work. The problem this season seems to be basically just a lack of skill on defense. I don't think this is GW's fault. Letting him go could be the worst move the team could make at this point.

11-20-2006, 08:29 PM	#8
SkinsLove24/7 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bowie, MD Age: 37 Posts: 423	Re: Gregg Williams has to go LOL...I just can't get over this. I think your just trying to start rumors or something. Such BS.

11-20-2006, 08:35 PM	#9
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: Gregg Williams has to go i dont know how much say he has when it comes to the players brought in or let go. i still feel he's a great defensive coach. i also feel gibbs is very loyal to him and would not ask him to leave, especially considering it was williams defense that gave the skins any chance at winning in 04 and it was williams defense that,for the most part, carried the team in 05. the defense is bad this year but they should be much better next season. __________________ Hail to Allen/Shanahan .... bring in some baby hogs and load up on diesel fuel !!! (budw38)

11-20-2006, 08:35 PM	#12
dall-assblows The Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: round the way Age: 41 Posts: 2,211	Re: Gregg Williams has to go i really truly believe that we are having an off year on defense, much like the ravens last year __________________ SOMEBODY PINCH ME

11-20-2006, 08:36 PM	#13
dall-assblows The Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: round the way Age: 41 Posts: 2,211	Re: Gregg Williams has to go big mistake if you let him go __________________ SOMEBODY PINCH ME

11-20-2006, 08:49 PM	#14
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 48 Posts: 4,261	Re: Gregg Williams has to go This is the problem with society now, everyone wants a quick fix. To claim that G. Williams has completely lost his ability to put a top defense on the field is ridiculous. I am tired of people who say blow the team up and fire everybody. It is plain stupid. O.k. so we fire everybody and cut all of the overpriced free agents then what are we left with? An expansion team. Yeah, that is a great idea...

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