Trading Down the 1st Rounder next year

Bill B · 11-02-2006, 07:49 AM

With the salary cap situation the Redkisns are in and the amount of current draft picks we have for 2007 left - doesn't it make sense to trade the pick down for multiple picks? I would think this would be the best solution because it allows you to pick up more players (the draft is a difficult science and more picks allows the team to have additional shots at gettig NFL cailber talent) and by moving down is easier to sign these players and give some relief to the cap in the future.

Any chance the Reskins go this route?

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR · 11-02-2006, 07:55 AM

That what a smart front office would do try to have as many picks that you could have. But that something that litte Danny and the Gibbster never would ever do. The last time we traded down in the first round was the year that Ramsey got drafted.

Beemnseven · 11-02-2006, 08:33 AM

Trading down out of a really high first rounder to get multiple picks would require some degree of ingenuity from the front office. I wouldn't trust this crowd to do such a thing.

Casserly could do it. Wonder if Danny could throw him a few million, make him forget about the past?

FRPLG · 11-02-2006, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Trading down out of a really high first rounder to get multiple picks would require some degree of ingenuity from the front office. I wouldn't trust this crowd to do such a thing.

Casserly could do it. Wonder if Danny could throw him a few million, make him forget about the past?

Caesserly is a hack. What has he ever done? He won a SB with a team he didn't build. Then set forth to ruin a franchise throughout the mid 90s. He was as responsible as anyone for the teams struggles until Gibbs finally came back.

irish · 11-02-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Caesserly is a hack. What has he ever done? He won a SB with a team he didn't build. Then set forth to ruin a franchise throughout the mid 90s. He was as responsible as anyone for the teams struggles until Gibbs finally came back.

Casserly accumulated the talent that Gibbs coached to victory. By his own admission Snyder said he fired the wrong guy when he fired Casserly and kept Norv. Gibbs is a great coach but taleent evaluation is not his forte. This team needs a real full time GM. I dont know that Casserly is the guy but the skins need someone to be the GM.

paulskinsfan · 11-02-2006, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

Casserly accumulated the talent that Gibbs coached to victory. By his own admission Snyder said he fired the wrong guy when he fired Casserly and kept Norv. Gibbs is a great coach but taleent evaluation is not his forte. This team needs a real full time GM. I dont know that Casserly is the guy but the skins need someone to be the GM.

Im not trying to be rude or anything, but your premise that Casserly was a good GM is just plain wrong. Bobby Beathard built Gibbs super bowl teams, not Charlie Casserly. Casserly was a HORRIBLE GM. He absolutely cannot evaluate talent. Just look what he did to the Texans for goodness sake. I would rather keep the current system, and I hate the system as it is, than go back to Casserly.

irish · 11-02-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Im not trying to be rude or anything, but your premise that Casserly was a good GM is just plain wrong. Bobby Beathard built Gibbs super bowl teams, not Charlie Casserly. Casserly was a HORRIBLE GM. He absolutely cannot evaluate talent. Just look what he did to the Texans for goodness sake. I would rather keep the current system, and I hate the system as it is, than go back to Casserly.

You are correct, I got Casserly and BB mixed up. Insert BB into my post wherever I typed Casserly.

skinsfan69 · 11-02-2006, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Caesserly is a hack. What has he ever done? He won a SB with a team he didn't build. Then set forth to ruin a franchise throughout the mid 90s. He was as responsible as anyone for the teams struggles until Gibbs finally came back.

Trading down would be a great idea becasue of so many needs. But the current braintrust isn't smart enough to do that. Bringing Charlie back would be a good idea. He knows more about today's NFL/ College than anyone they currently have. And you can put Norv in the blame game for the 90's. Norv wanted Shuler/Westbrook. He thought they were going to be Aikman and Irvin. But I would try and get someone from Balt. Chicago or New England front office. Someone with disipline and fiscal responsiblity that knows how to draft. I believe Bobby DePaul works in Chicago's front office and he is mostly responsible for building the current Bears team. He once worked for the Skins many year ago.

krathod · 11-03-2006, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Trading down would be a great idea becasue of so many needs. But the current braintrust isn't smart enough to do that. Bringing Charlie back would be a good idea. He knows more about today's NFL/ College than anyone they currently have. And you can put Norv in the blame game for the 90's. Norv wanted Shuler/Westbrook. He thought they were going to be Aikman and Irvin. But I would try and get someone from Balt. Chicago or New England front office. Someone with disipline and fiscal responsiblity that knows how to draft. I believe Bobby DePaul works in Chicago's front office and he is mostly responsible for building the current Bears team. He once worked for the Skins many year ago.

I agree with your assessment of Bobby DePaul, what about Ron Wolf? THe Green Bay Packers once GM- He brought in Holgren, Favre, etc...

SkinsTerps424 · 11-03-2006, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Trading down out of a really high first rounder to get multiple picks would require some degree of ingenuity from the front office. I wouldn't trust this crowd to do such a thing.

Casserly could do it. Wonder if Danny could throw him a few million, make him forget about the past?

Hahaha, having the most boring day at work, your sarcasm really brightened up my afternoon. Couldnt agree with you more!

vaoutlaws2006 · 11-05-2006, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Trading down out of a really high first rounder to get multiple picks would require some degree of ingenuity from the front office. I wouldn't trust this crowd to do such a thing.

Casserly could do it. Wonder if Danny could throw him a few million, make him forget about the past?

ahhhh...someone with brains in their head. I am glad i am not the only one who sees a need for a real general manager. not a danny flunkey like cerrato and not gibbs making personal decisions. Our front office system has a fatal flaw. throwing millions at has beens, except ARE, isnt the answer.

dmek25 · 11-02-2006, 09:17 AM

before trading down, you must first evaluate want and need. see whats available, and see what the skins need. i am one who doesn't think the skins lack talent. one or two quality players can make this team a contender, in my opinion

BrunellMVP? · 11-02-2006, 09:22 AM

Is the salary cap ever really an issue? as far as I can tell, we just extend contracts into perpetuity...so while we do max pay year, any money above and beyond (needed to sign talent) is simply pushed till a later date (which works until there is a regime change). As for the picks, i agree that it would be smart, but i'm highly skeptical, a more likely outcome would be to trade up in exchange for our 2-4 round draft picks in 2008. What picks do we have in the upcoming draft anyway (that is, which picks have we not traded away?)

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-02-2006, 09:44 AM

I wish we could somehow manage a lower 1st round pick and a late 2nd round.

Schneed10 · 11-02-2006, 09:56 AM

All of this depends upon how high our first rounder is and who's available in the draft. It's a little premature to think about it.

11-02-2006, 07:49 AM	#1
Bill B Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 721	Trading Down the 1st Rounder next year With the salary cap situation the Redkisns are in and the amount of current draft picks we have for 2007 left - doesn't it make sense to trade the pick down for multiple picks? I would think this would be the best solution because it allows you to pick up more players (the draft is a difficult science and more picks allows the team to have additional shots at gettig NFL cailber talent) and by moving down is easier to sign these players and give some relief to the cap in the future. Any chance the Reskins go this route?

11-02-2006, 07:55 AM	#2
CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: va Age: 57 Posts: 890	Re: Trading Down the 1st Rounder next year That what a smart front office would do try to have as many picks that you could have. But that something that litte Danny and the Gibbster never would ever do. The last time we traded down in the first round was the year that Ramsey got drafted.

11-02-2006, 08:33 AM	#3
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: Trading Down the 1st Rounder next year Trading down out of a really high first rounder to get multiple picks would require some degree of ingenuity from the front office. I wouldn't trust this crowd to do such a thing. Casserly could do it. Wonder if Danny could throw him a few million, make him forget about the past?

11-02-2006, 09:17 AM	#12
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Trading Down the 1st Rounder next year before trading down, you must first evaluate want and need. see whats available, and see what the skins need. i am one who doesn't think the skins lack talent. one or two quality players can make this team a contender, in my opinion __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

11-02-2006, 09:22 AM	#13
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	Re: Trading Down the 1st Rounder next year Is the salary cap ever really an issue? as far as I can tell, we just extend contracts into perpetuity...so while we do max pay year, any money above and beyond (needed to sign talent) is simply pushed till a later date (which works until there is a regime change). As for the picks, i agree that it would be smart, but i'm highly skeptical, a more likely outcome would be to trade up in exchange for our 2-4 round draft picks in 2008. What picks do we have in the upcoming draft anyway (that is, which picks have we not traded away?) __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

11-02-2006, 09:44 AM	#14
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Trading Down the 1st Rounder next year I wish we could somehow manage a lower 1st round pick and a late 2nd round. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

11-02-2006, 09:56 AM	#15
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: Trading Down the 1st Rounder next year All of this depends upon how high our first rounder is and who's available in the draft. It's a little premature to think about it. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

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