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Old 10-20-2006, 06:32 PM   #1
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Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal?

Seriously, cigarettes are soooo horrible for you, so why are they legal? On the flip side, weed has some medicinal purposes, and it's all natural, but illegal????????
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Old 10-20-2006, 06:59 PM   #2
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Re: Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal?

This seems like the proper place for this discussion.

The reasons it was made illegal in the first place really don't seem to make that much sense, especially since alcohol and tobacco products are still legal. One reason for it's being seen as somethinng criminal that I've always found interesting (and I really don't want to start a whole other debate by saying this) is the racial aspect of those who were more likely to use it when it was originally made illegal. This is from the wikipedia entry on marijuna:
Although cannabis has been used for its psychoactive effects since ancient times, it first became well known in the United States during the jazz music scene of the late 1920s and 1930s. Louis Armstrong became a prominent and life-long devotee. It was popular in the blues scene as well, and eventually became a prominent part of 1960s counterculture.
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I really don't think it should be illegal because there really is no proof that it's any worse than other, more legal ways of killing one's brain cells. At the same time, I'm still a bit skeptical on how benifical it can really be because I find it hard to believe that any kind of smoke that goes into the lungs can be very good for you.
Oh, and by the way, I sound like a big pothead or something but that's actually not the case. I was a sociology major in college where I basically focused all my studies on criminology-related topics and my senior thesis dealt with American drug laws and the way they are enforced.
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Old 10-20-2006, 07:07 PM   #3
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Re: Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal?

And by the way; if you want a really good laugh watch the movie "Reefer Madness." If you've never heard of it, it was made in the 1930's (I think) as a way to 'warn' people about the dangers of marijuna. The depications of people smoking up and the way they react to it are classic.
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Old 10-20-2006, 07:19 PM   #4
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Re: Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal?

I think the Govenrment likes to keep good things to themselves. They all smoke it.
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Old 10-20-2006, 07:20 PM   #5
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Re: Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal?

If big business got behind pot like they're behind tobacco they could push it through easily enough.
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Old 10-20-2006, 07:27 PM   #6
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Re: Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal?

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If big business got behind pot like they're behind tobacco they could push it through easily enough.
DING DING DING!!! I agree 100%.

But, I really don't think it will ever be made completely legal, per se. If anything, it will become decriminalized like it is in Holland. For instance, I don't ever see a situation where Nate Newton would get off Scott free, but could see people not having to get into high speed chases with the cops because they have a joint in the ashtray.

The other thing besides the major companies getting behind it would be when the government decides to start regulating it and taxing the bejeebus out of it for their own gain. That would be like killing two bird with one stone, because not only would they get $$$ from the taxes but they would also get to save money on court costs and prison sentences for simple offenders.
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Old 10-20-2006, 07:28 PM   #7
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Re: Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal?

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If big business got behind pot like they're behind tobacco they could push it through easily enough.

Gary Johnson (R- New Mexico, ex-governor) wanted to legalize it, and it seems this trend is becoming somewhat sexy.
So you're right, if big business got behind the idea, then more and more politicians would get on board.
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:34 AM   #8
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Re: Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal?

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If big business got behind pot like they're behind tobacco they could push it through easily enough.
You may be partly correct.

It's been rumored that while the cigarette manufacturers aren't pushing for legalized marijuana, they're prepared for it. there may be names for joints under copyright right now.

I'd say the thing keeping marijuana from becoming legal is a test for immediate intoxication. Any legalization will include a new batch of laws regarding driving, operating machinery, etc. Until a test saying that at the time of the arrest, this number shows how high you were, those laws would be entiorely subjective, and impossible to prosecute effectively. Since most drug tests can only say if you've used in the past few weeks, that isn't happening.

And for those out there who "drive better when I'm high," sure you do.
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Old 10-20-2006, 07:21 PM   #9
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Re: Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal?

Those commercials are the ones that crack me up.

I'll be honest, I enjoyed smoking weed a lot in my younger days, and I have occasionally dabbled in it now in my elder days. I have an MBA in finance and graduated with a 3.5 gpa. I have acheived many things in my life.
Like anything you do, if you do it in excess, it will hurt you. Even eating food will hurt you in excess. Moderation is the key. I personally feel that if more people smoked weed, there would be a lot fewer crimes, and it would help the economy immensely.
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Re: Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal?

I agree, moderation. Maybe that's what Corporate America is doing, waiting for the oppurtune time. Who knows, Wal-Mart gets there way with everything, maybe they'll start selling it for cheap,and crak there whip on some poor phillapino farmer to grow it at a faster rate...."WHOOPISH, GROW IT FASTER!!!"
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Old 10-21-2006, 02:48 PM   #11
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Re: Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal?

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I agree, moderation. Maybe that's what Corporate America is doing, waiting for the oppurtune time. Who knows, Wal-Mart gets there way with everything, maybe they'll start selling it for cheap,and crak there whip on some poor phillapino farmer to grow it at a faster rate...."WHOOPISH, GROW IT FASTER!!!"
Corporate America doesn't want moderation - do you really think Big Tobacco wants you to smoke 2 cigarettes a day? Or that Anheiser-Pussy (I hate Budweiser) wants you to drink a couple beers a week? Uh-uh. They want to see you chain-smoking and shotgunning beers 24/7.

Until they can (at least behind closed doors) push for this with marijuana, they won't push to legalize it.
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Old 10-22-2006, 12:50 AM   #12
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Re: Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal?

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I agree, moderation. Maybe that's what Corporate America is doing, waiting for the oppurtune time. Who knows, Wal-Mart gets there way with everything, maybe they'll start selling it for cheap,and crak there whip on some poor phillapino farmer to grow it at a faster rate...."WHOOPISH, GROW IT FASTER!!!"
HAHAHA, that reminded me of Chapelle, "BURN, YOUR FEET!"
P.S. I'm high
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Re: Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal?

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weed makes me sleepy too

Holy smokes...the mastermind of the warpath smokes weed. This changes everything. I'm calling my mother and telling her you can acheive elite status and smoke weed at the same time!
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