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Old 05-05-2004, 02:05 PM   #1
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Out Of These Players Who Will Step Up Ther Game

What one of these players will do better this year.
1 WR Darnerien McCants
2 WR Taylor Jacods
3 WR James Thrash
4 RB Ladell Betts
5 RB/FB Rock Cartwright
6 OG Derrick Dackery
7 C Cory Raymer
8 DE Renaldo Wynn
9 DE Regan Upshaw
10 DT Jermaine Haley
11 CB Rashad Bauman
12 MLD Kevin Mitchell
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Old 05-05-2004, 02:11 PM   #2
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I think Dockery and Jacobs. Dockery will starting to come around at the end of last season and Jacobs should finally be healthy
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Old 05-05-2004, 02:17 PM   #3
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I agree with Smoot, those two are the youngest and didnt prove much last year so they only have room to go up. Jacobs is essentially still a rookie, and Dockery went from being horrible to being decent.
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Old 05-05-2004, 03:19 PM   #4
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I think it's likely that Jacobs and McCants will step up. Both seem to have caught the eye of Gibbs and JoeCrisp was saying some really good stuff about Taylor after the first minicamp.

As for the rest, God knows - I am pulling for Rock just b/c I think every football team should have someone named "Rock" or "Tank" on the team.
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Old 05-05-2004, 03:25 PM   #5
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Jacob's, bett's, and haley.
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Old 05-05-2004, 03:43 PM   #6
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Definitely McCants, Jacobs and Dockery. Those three figure to be significant contributors to the offensive side of the ball. Dockery should become a nasty Hog under Bugel, and I wouldn't be surprised to see McCants or Jacobs wind up with 1,000 yards receiving in the next year or two. Either one of those guys could supplant Gardner as the #2 wideout by mid-season-- if not sooner.
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Old 05-05-2004, 04:11 PM   #7
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McCants and Dockery. Look for McCants to be the #2 WR by week 4, if not at the start of the season. Gibbs loves this guy, and will very quickly tire of Gardner's drops in key situations.
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Old 05-05-2004, 04:17 PM   #8
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Joecrisp - just saw YOUR post - looks like we are pretty much on the same page on this one.


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Old 05-05-2004, 04:14 PM   #9
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...McCants or Jacobs wind up with 1,000 yards receiving in the next year or two. Either one of those guys could supplant Gardner as the #2 wideout by mid-season-- if not sooner.
Why is there so much hate for Gardner? Everyone is willing to give Samuels a second chance after two bad seasons. Remember how many times Jansen jumped offsides and at times looked like a rookie last year? Up to now, Ladell Betts and Taylor Jacobs have been a waste of a high draft pick. Dockery did not look good early on and never really looked great.
I think our entire team (except for Champ Bailey) did not play well on a consistent basis. Even L. Coles and P. Ramsey, who came out great, fizzled and sputtered as the year went on.
Most of the blame has to go to S. Spurrier and his system.
Right before Spurriers first year, many football experts were saying Spurriers system does not lend itself to big possesion receivers like Gardner. Why are we suprised he did not look good?
I am willing hold back my dislike for Taylor Jacobs and Ladell Betts. I will give them a second and third chance (respectively) to prove they are not busts, if you folks give Gardner just as much of a fair chance.....

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Old 05-05-2004, 06:27 PM   #10
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Why is there so much hate for Gardner? Everyone is willing to give Samuels a second chance after two bad seasons. Remember how many times Jansen jumped offsides and at times looked like a rookie last year? Up to now, Ladell Betts and Taylor Jacobs have been a waste of a high draft pick. Dockery did not look good early on and never really looked great.
I think our entire team (except for Champ Bailey) did not play well on a consistent basis. Even L. Coles and P. Ramsey, who came out great, fizzled and sputtered as the year went on.
Most of the blame has to go to S. Spurrier and his system.
Right before Spurriers first year, many football experts were saying Spurriers system does not lend itself to big possesion receivers like Gardner. Why are we suprised he did not look good?
I am willing hold back my dislike for Taylor Jacobs and Ladell Betts. I will give them a second and third chance (respectively) to prove they are not busts, if you folks give Gardner just as much of a fair chance.....
Believe me, I'm definitely not a Gardner-hater. Just ask any of the Warpathers who were on the board last year, and they'll tell you I was probably giving Gardner more props than he deserved. I've been rooting for the guy since he got drafted-- my Dad played at Clemson, so I have a soft spot for Clemson guys. Rod even agreed to record a little videotaped message for my Dad when I was at camp last year, so I've got nothing against the guy.

There are a couple of reasons I say that McCants and Jacobs have an excellent shot at displacing him on the depth chart: Jacobs has looked stellar in both minicamps, and has added a lot of muscle to his frame in an effort to improve his durability. Jacobs may be the best route-runner on the team, and his hands might be the softest. Frankly, I haven't been nearly as impressed with McCants (he was held out of much of the first minicamp, and didn't do anything spectacular in the 2nd one), but obviously, Gibbs has seen something about him on film that he really likes. McCants has proven he can be a dangerous red-zone threat, and he has excellent size and deceptive speed.

I didn't see anything in the first two minicamps to indicate that Gardner has stepped up his game. While he has shown flashes throughout his career of tremendous potential (200+ yards in that 2001 victory over Carolina come to mind), and he impressed me with his ability to reach 1,000 yards in 2002 (despite the horrible quarterbacking situation), he has never been able to shed his reputation as an unreliable receiver. I'm not saying he won't step up his game at some point this summer, but right now I have to go on what I have actually seen. At this point, if I had to create a depth chart, I'd put Jacobs at #2, with Gardner and McCants in a dead heat for the 3rd spot.
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Old 05-05-2004, 10:36 PM   #11
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I think our entire team (except for Champ Bailey) did not play well on a consistent basis.

I would have to disagree on this one....I'm not hating on Champ because he is gone now but he got burned alot last year especially vs. the Giants. For some reason he has a real problem covering Toomer.
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Old 05-05-2004, 03:25 PM   #12
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Honestly, I think all of them will. With Gibbs, there's no where to go but up.
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Old 05-05-2004, 04:44 PM   #13
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Since there has been talk of McCants seeing action at H-back in some formations, I'd expect his numbers to get a lot of attention. Dockery may see a lot of action, but until he shows Bugel what he's got, I hesitate to place him up near the top.
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Old 05-05-2004, 04:59 PM   #14
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i know i don't have too many problems with gardner, but he has yet to live up to his potential. if he can do that then he will secure his #2 spot, but i see someone moving up and taking it from him possibly as early as the season opener. and while i like mccants, he just doesn't pop out at me as someone who can become a consistent #2 wr. he's an incredible redzone target and maybe a chain mover but not a game breaker. I know we haven't seen much of jacobs yet, but from everything i saw of him in college and in last years training camp, plus the fact he added about 10-15 pounds of muscle in the off season, i think he has a pretty good shot at stealing the #2 spot and i think thrash could be a sleeper pick to put up decent #s since he's back to the more comfortable role of not being the main target.
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Old 05-05-2004, 05:02 PM   #15
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i know i don't have too many problems with gardner, but he has yet to live up to his potential. if he can do that then he will secure his #2 spot, but i see someone moving up and taking it from him possibly as early as the season opener. and while i like mccants, he just doesn't pop out at me as someone who can become a consistent #2 wr. he's an incredible redzone target and maybe a chain mover but not a game breaker. I know we haven't seen much of jacobs yet, but from everything i saw of him in college and in last years training camp, plus the fact he added about 10-15 pounds of muscle in the off season, i think he has a pretty good shot at stealing the #2 spot and i think thrash could be a sleeper pick to put up decent #s since he's back to the more comfortable role of not being the main target.
I think that's pretty much a dead-on assessment. Though I think Gardner isn't going to give up that #2 spot without a fight
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