John Hall

SmootSmack · 01-08-2006, 11:35 PM

Not sure if this was mentioned somewhere else, but it sure was nice to see John Hall nail that 47-yarder . His longest of the year, of the last two and a half years in fact.

Granted, it would have been nicer if instead he was kicking an extra point, still that will be a huge plus if we can count on his leg like that

Twilbert07 · 01-08-2006, 11:38 PM

It's very nice to see that Hall is back, presumably at full strength (one of his kickoffs even made it to 1-yard line!). We need every single point we can get during the playoffs.

twinskinsfan · 01-08-2006, 11:40 PM

John Hall is good to have on the team because of experience, but I would like to see the kickoff by someone else.

Warpath · 01-08-2006, 11:46 PM

Yea I agree, hes good on field goals and extra points but damn he cant get a kick off inside the 10 usually. We need a kick off specialist who can boot it inside the 5 EVERY kickoff.

twinskinsfan · 01-08-2006, 11:51 PM

It just looks to me that everytime Hall kicks off, it is the most painful expereince he has ever gone through.

redrock-skins · 01-09-2006, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by twinskinsfan

It just looks to me that everytime Hall kicks off, it is the most painful expereince he has ever gone through.

Yes, I noticed that too. He still seems hurt. We can't keep letting Seattle start at the 35-40-yrd line every kickoff.

hooskins · 01-09-2006, 12:25 AM

I do not think he is 100 percent, can Frost do the kickoffs? If Frost can kick that far, we can keep Hall fresh this way. For next year, draft Conor Huges, best kicker in college (and he went to UVA, my school

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backrow · 01-09-2006, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by twinskinsfan

It just looks to me that everytime Hall kicks off, it is the most painful expereince he has ever gone through.

I noticed it weeks ago at pre-game warm-ups during the Raiders Game, at our end of the field!

Hope he survives all of his duties and assignments.

Southpaw · 01-09-2006, 10:57 AM

John Halls leg is either not completely healed, or atrophied as it healed, and is much weaker than it was two years ago. His accuracy has never been a problem. He's still one of the more accurate kickers in the league, but obviously, his range isn't where it used to be.

The problem with getting a kickoff specialist is it takes another roster spot, which I'm pretty sure Gibbs won't even consider, so unless they can find a punter that can also kickoff, that won't happen. I don't think cutting him is the answer either. If you've paid attention to the kicking game around the league, it has been an off year for kickers in general. Just look at how many teams have hired Jose Cortez, in this season alone. Having an accurate kicker is a definite plus to have, especially in the playoffs. They'll just have to find a way to compensate for his short kickoffs.

twinskinsfan · 01-09-2006, 02:18 AM

We need to find something new, we might as well kick onside kicks all game, we can't afford to let Seattle start with good field position all game. Maybe they should put Sean Taylor in there, if he can kick as far as they say he can spit, he's our man!

dgack · 01-09-2006, 02:49 AM

I have to admit I was really rooting for Nick Novak when Hall was out.

Hall has never impressed me that much; maybe I'm spoiled growing up in the heyday of The Chip Shot, when you never had to worry because Lohmiller would drill it... but the 47 yarder this week went a long way to placating any fears I had about Hall being back.

Surprised the announce crew seemed unsure of Hall's ability to make that kick. Hasn't he kicked a bunch of 50 yarders in his career?

That Guy · 01-09-2006, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dgack

I have to admit I was really rooting for Nick Novak when Hall was out.

Hall has never impressed me that much; maybe I'm spoiled growing up in the heyday of The Chip Shot, when you never had to worry because Lohmiller would drill it... but the 47 yarder this week went a long way to placating any fears I had about Hall being back.

Surprised the announce crew seemed unsure of Hall's ability to make that kick. Hasn't he kicked a bunch of 50 yarders in his career?

not since his injury last year... longest before that 47 yarder was a single 45 yard kick i believe.

When we got him he was a great 50-54 yard type kicker, since then we haven't bothered to try it... he only has like 15 kicks on the year.

LongTimeSkinsFan · 01-09-2006, 07:34 AM

It's easy to assess the situation as we need a kickoff specialist. The only problem with that is what position player do we cut to make room for a guy that only comes out after we score and either the beginning of the game or 2nd half? Also bear in mind the way the injury bug has bit us, any position player we drop for a kickoff man makes us one less deep at a position that could be very thin at any given time during the season. It doesn't make sense to carry an extra kicker on the roster unless you have to carry him (under a long term contract like Hall was while he was hurt this year).

dmek25 · 01-09-2006, 08:44 AM

hall has really improved over the last 2 weeks,even the kickoffs are getting longer.facts are, he is our kicker for at least the rest of this season

cpayne5 · 01-09-2006, 09:14 AM

I am glad we have John Hall. He is a good kicker. Does anybody remember our kicking woes of the late 90s/ early 00s? We would have killed for a kicker like John Hall at the time. We need to hold onto him, IMO. Kickers are not easy to come by.

01-08-2006, 11:35 PM	#1
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	John Hall Not sure if this was mentioned somewhere else, but it sure was nice to see John Hall nail that 47-yarder . His longest of the year, of the last two and a half years in fact. Granted, it would have been nicer if instead he was kicking an extra point, still that will be a huge plus if we can count on his leg like that __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-08-2006, 11:38 PM	#2
Twilbert07 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 59 Posts: 594	Re: John Hall It's very nice to see that Hall is back, presumably at full strength (one of his kickoffs even made it to 1-yard line!). We need every single point we can get during the playoffs. __________________ a Skins fan every day, every way.

01-08-2006, 11:40 PM	#3
twinskinsfan Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 141	Re: John Hall John Hall is good to have on the team because of experience, but I would like to see the kickoff by someone else.

01-08-2006, 11:46 PM	#4
Warpath The Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Potomac Falls, VA Age: 48 Posts: 1,762	Re: John Hall Yea I agree, hes good on field goals and extra points but damn he cant get a kick off inside the 10 usually. We need a kick off specialist who can boot it inside the 5 EVERY kickoff.

01-08-2006, 11:51 PM	#5
twinskinsfan Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 141	Re: John Hall It just looks to me that everytime Hall kicks off, it is the most painful expereince he has ever gone through.

01-09-2006, 12:25 AM	#7
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Re: John Hall I do not think he is 100 percent, can Frost do the kickoffs? If Frost can kick that far, we can keep Hall fresh this way. For next year, draft Conor Huges, best kicker in college (and he went to UVA, my school ) __________________ Vacancy

01-09-2006, 10:57 AM	#9
Southpaw The Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: So. MD Age: 46 Posts: 1,319	Re: John Hall John Halls leg is either not completely healed, or atrophied as it healed, and is much weaker than it was two years ago. His accuracy has never been a problem. He's still one of the more accurate kickers in the league, but obviously, his range isn't where it used to be. The problem with getting a kickoff specialist is it takes another roster spot, which I'm pretty sure Gibbs won't even consider, so unless they can find a punter that can also kickoff, that won't happen. I don't think cutting him is the answer either. If you've paid attention to the kicking game around the league, it has been an off year for kickers in general. Just look at how many teams have hired Jose Cortez, in this season alone. Having an accurate kicker is a definite plus to have, especially in the playoffs. They'll just have to find a way to compensate for his short kickoffs.

01-09-2006, 02:18 AM	#10
twinskinsfan Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 141	Re: John Hall We need to find something new, we might as well kick onside kicks all game, we can't afford to let Seattle start with good field position all game. Maybe they should put Sean Taylor in there, if he can kick as far as they say he can spit, he's our man!

01-09-2006, 02:49 AM	#11
dgack The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The ATX (formerly Balmer) Posts: 1,125	Re: John Hall I have to admit I was really rooting for Nick Novak when Hall was out. Hall has never impressed me that much; maybe I'm spoiled growing up in the heyday of The Chip Shot, when you never had to worry because Lohmiller would drill it... but the 47 yarder this week went a long way to placating any fears I had about Hall being back. Surprised the announce crew seemed unsure of Hall's ability to make that kick. Hasn't he kicked a bunch of 50 yarders in his career?

01-09-2006, 07:34 AM	#13
LongTimeSkinsFan Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: LaVale MD Age: 62 Posts: 515	Re: John Hall It's easy to assess the situation as we need a kickoff specialist. The only problem with that is what position player do we cut to make room for a guy that only comes out after we score and either the beginning of the game or 2nd half? Also bear in mind the way the injury bug has bit us, any position player we drop for a kickoff man makes us one less deep at a position that could be very thin at any given time during the season. It doesn't make sense to carry an extra kicker on the roster unless you have to carry him (under a long term contract like Hall was while he was hurt this year). __________________ ...skins fan since 72 and still breathin'!

01-09-2006, 08:44 AM	#14
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: John Hall hall has really improved over the last 2 weeks,even the kickoffs are getting longer.facts are, he is our kicker for at least the rest of this season

01-09-2006, 09:14 AM	#15
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	Re: John Hall I am glad we have John Hall. He is a good kicker. Does anybody remember our kicking woes of the late 90s/ early 00s? We would have killed for a kicker like John Hall at the time. We need to hold onto him, IMO. Kickers are not easy to come by. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

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