Albert Haynesworth and His Trainer

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Albert Haynesworth

“Well, I told Mike this and he was like, ‘Well, I wanted you to train with our guys’ and all that stuff and I said, ‘I totally respect that and all that but to get me back to where I want to be I need the serious training. I need the stuff that got me where I’m at.’ We do a lot of specialized stuff for me, a lot of training. My trainer, he comes up with some great stuff that’s just for me, basically, not just maybe a defensive lineman, but just for me. Stuff that can improve on to help me get stronger and things that’ll help me focus better. So nothing against them or whatever but if I want to get back to being the best defensive tackle in the NFL then I need to do this.”

Apparently that trainer is Tripp Smith of CES.

Here's video of Haynesworth training with Tripp before the 2008 season when the Titans slapped the franchise tag. It also touches on the story about how Albert got paired up with Tripp.
The Competitive Edge | Reality Television Show following CES Athletes | Comcast Sports

Continue the journey with Tripp Smith, in Tennessee training Albert Haynesworth, as he pursues his dream of training the Pros. And follow Justin Smoak another week as he gets into some intense training with the famed "hitting harness" used by the likes of Jeff Francouer and Chipper Jones. Finally, meet Jimmy Williams, former Virginia Tech star and 2nd round draft pick of the Atlanta Falcons, recently cut but trying to stay in shape and hopefully be picked up by another team.

Albert's testimony.

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Congratulations to our CES clients who made the 2010 Pro Bowl!
Jared Allen - Vikings, Jon Stinchcomb - Saints, Brandon Marshall - Broncos, Jay Ratliff - Cowboys,
Champ Bailey - Broncos, Leonard Weaver - Eagles, Darnell Dockett - Cardinals, James Harrison - Steelers.

The funniest part is it seems like a mirror image of Rob and Big except the characters are a lot more normal and the rich guy is the big one.

[SirClintonPortis]

All this tells me is that people like to form inferences based on very non-substantive snapshots that are not representative of the entire picture. Haynesworth got carted off and made a show only a handful of times compared to the amount of snaps he actually played, and people make it sound like he was ALMOST ALWAYS on the bench. Goes to show that Haynesworth may actually be harder worker than people credit him for.

[12thMan]

Wait, GTripp is Haynesworth's trainer? No wonder he can't make it to workouts!

[cpayne5]

I still cannot find any reason to fault Haynesworth this offseason. The dude just wants to be the best he can be. All the trade talk is absurd.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

I still cannot find any reason to fault Haynesworth this offseason. The dude just wants to be the best he can be. All the trade talk is absurd.

Me personally, most of us have to be at work Mon. through Fri. around 50 weeks a yr. Not counting sick days, holidays, and only counting for 2 weeks vacation. Most of us make a lot less then Haynesworth or any other NFL player. I see no problem with teams expecting their players to be at the facility just as much as any given employee. So I kinda get upset when players get their feathers ruffled about having to be at the facility. I don't think they actually know how good their life is.

Having said that, as of right now they are not required by the NFL to be at their facilities. It's not called "Voluntary" work outs for nothing. Lets move on from this story. AH shows up fat and slow the team will have issues, he shows up in decent shape and only has to learn the scheme, then I'm ok with it.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Me personally, most of us have to be at work Mon. through Fri. around 50 weeks a yr. Not counting sick days, holidays, and only counting for 2 weeks vacation. Most of us make a lot less then Haynesworth or any other NFL player. I see no problem with teams expecting their players to be at the facility just as much as any given employee. So I kinda get upset when players get their feathers ruffled about having to be at the facility. I don't think they actually know how good their life is.

Having said that, as of right now they are not required by the NFL to be at their facilities. It's not called "Voluntary" work outs for nothing. Lets move on from this story. AH shows up fat and slow the team will have issues, he shows up in decent shape and only has to learn the scheme, then I'm ok with it.

The first paragraph comes off as a jealously laced diatribe. The clubs agreed to those rules. Don't like it, "tough", I'm sorry to say there's really nothing you can do short of starting some sort of national NFL boycott. Good luck.

Where has it ever been said that his feathers have been ruffled? It seems to me that the only ruffled feathers are found on all these drama queen fans who are out for blood.

He is fulfilling his commitments and he has said from the beginning that all he wants to be is the best. If him training with his personal trainer gets him there, then Godspeed, Big Al.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

The first paragraph comes off as a jealously laced diatribe. The clubs agreed to those rules. Don't like it, "tough", I'm sorry to say there's really nothing you can do short of starting some sort of national NFL boycott. Good luck.

Where has it ever been said that his feathers have been ruffled? It seems to me that the only ruffled feathers are found on all these drama queen fans who are out for blood.

He is fulfilling his commitments and he has said from the beginning that all he wants to be is the best. If him training with his personal trainer gets him there, then Godspeed, Big Al.

and why do you think I started off by saying "me personally?" I know the clubs agreed to the rules. Thats why I said "it's voluntary." I think what I'm seeing perhaps only out of the Skins is they would like to have their players at the facility all yr around unless they are on vacation. The problem is no one can make the players stay.

I'm kinda a rules guy. If the speed limit is 55 mph, you ask people to do 45 mph but legally they can do 55. Just like this situation, you can ask them to stick around but legally they don't have to.

I'm pointing out that I would like to see them be around more often especially since they make so much money, but no one can get mad cause technically they don't have to be here. I just don't understand all the "Hanesworth is problem" comments. He came last yr and did his job. He took on double teams for the season. Allowing others to get more sacks. Thats why we brought him in.

If the owners don't like the fact that the players don't want to be around for voluntary work outs then change the damn rules or have it put in their contracts.

[WillH]

Is this the first time this has been said? If so why are we only hearing from AH now? I know that Allen and Shanahan have been saying from the beginning that they had no intentions of trading AH, and that they both knew where each other stood and all that. But then there were all the rumors that they denied, where were they being "leaked" from?

The timing of this quote is suspicious, were they saving this in the event that they couldn't find a sutor and needed to "make nice," or were they letting people believe there was more tension over the training program then there actually was as a smoke screen? and if that's the case, what for?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by WillH

Is this the first time this has been said? If so why are we only hearing from AH now? I know that Allen and Shanahan have been saying from the beginning that they had no intentions of trading AH, and that they both knew where each other stood and all that. But then there were all the rumors that they denied, where were they being "leaked" from?

The timing of this quote is suspicious, were they saving this in the event that they couldn't find a sutor and needed to "make nice," or were they letting people believe there was more tension over the training program then there actually was as a smoke screen? and if that's the case, what for?

The quote I started with was from an interview with Rich Gannon back in March. I randomly came across the company Haynesworth was training for when I was looking at Haynesworth highlights on YouTube. Naturally I did a couple of searches on Google and within 10 minutes I had all the information you see on this thread.

I used the quote though because I felt it was an appropriate segway with Haynesworth frequently talking about training with 'his guy.' Personally I think there must be some sort of deep bond between big men and the guys who train them. I mean first Haynesworth is putting himself in front of the media crosshairs by working with his trainer and then we see Suh pledging to donate $2 million to Nebraskas strength training program.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by WillH

Is this the first time this has been said? If so why are we only hearing from AH now? I know that Allen and Shanahan have been saying from the beginning that they had no intentions of trading AH, and that they both knew where each other stood and all that. But then there were all the rumors that they denied, where were they being "leaked" from?

The timing of this quote is suspicious, were they saving this in the event that they couldn't find a sutor and needed to "make nice," or were they letting people believe there was more tension over the training program then there actually was as a smoke screen? and if that's the case, what for?

Quite a few people have been asking the same question that ends your first paragraph.

The Redskins organization has consistently denied any efforts on their part to trade Haynesworth. Every team mentioned as a sutor for his services has been careful to deny any effort of pursuit, though the media reports continued to circulate to the contrary. Haynesworth is under contract to the Redskins, the Redskins would have to contact any team in an effort to guage their interest in trading for him, not vice versa.

The term tampering as used within the NFL, refers to any interference by a member club with the employer - employee relationship of another club or any atempt by a club to impermissably induce a person to seek employment with that club or with the NFL.

If as has been reported the Redskins were not actively shopping Haynesworth as trade, no other member team would be within the rules by first instituting contact.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Quite a few people have been asking the same question that ends your first paragraph.

The Redskins organization has consistently denied any efforts on their part to trade Haynesworth. Every team mentioned as a sutor for his services has been careful to deny any effort of pursuit, though the media reports continued to circulate to the contrary. Haynesworth is under contract to the Redskins, the Redskins would have to contact any team in an effort to guage their interest in trading for him, not vice versa.

The term tampering as used within the NFL, refers to any interference by a member club with the employer - employee relationship of another club or any atempt by a club to impermissably induce a person to seek employment with that club or with the NFL.

If as has been reported the Redskins were not actively shopping Haynesworth as trade, no other member team would be within the rules by first instituting contact.

i may be wrong but i don't think it's against any rule if a team's gm contacts bruce allen in regards to talk of possible trades. it is however against the rules for a team's gm to contact a player or a player's agent to talk of a trade.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

i may be wrong but i don't think it's against any rule if a team's gm contacts bruce allen in regards to talk of possible trades. it is however against the rules for a team's gm to contact a player or a player's agent to talk of a trade.

You could be right Wolf...The second paragraph of my post is the actual wording of the rule, it does not specify beyond member clubs contact. There could be other wording to further specify in more detail.....I'll search.

[diehard]

I think all of these dudes are on vacation. Sure, they check (deposit) in but, after that, it's tee time. Anybody evere spy on them to make sure they're there? Hire the guy from ''Cheaters''.

[beau_str]

Originally Posted by diehard

I think all of these dudes are on vacation. Sure, they check (deposit) in but, after that, it's tee time. Anybody evere spy on them to make sure they're there? Hire the guy from ''Cheaters''.

ok, tyvm. i am gonna start looking at who is posting and skip you. you contribute absolutely nothing intelligible.

[WillH]

Thanks for the clarification, I was a bit confused.

Anyways, I sure hope AH is doing what he needs to, to be the dominant player we went out and brought here. With a healthy AH on board I really feel this defense could be great. With the diverse talent I feel we have in the front 7, AH could really be an incredible asset from both positions on the D-line. At this point I guess what other options does he have than to come back and play the best game he can, in hope of a trade or whatever?

I guess he could hold out. What's the most we'll get for him if he holds out? What's the least we'd take for him?

I hope this senario never comes to pass . . .