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08-25-2008, 02:43 PM | #1 |
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When will Jansen go?
Ive been sick of this guy for the past two years, he used to be a beast, but now just cant cut it (blame it on injuries or age, i really dont care). The guy has a monster contract (25 mil, 15 guaranteed over the next 4 years), and is always either hurt or playing like shit (at least in pass protection). If we are gonna have a shitty starter, we should be paying him a shitty salary. When do you guys think that Jansen will go?
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08-25-2008, 02:45 PM | #2 |
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Re: When will Jansen go?
Well he was hurt last year, not sure why you would hate him for that. And the year before he battled through a bunch of different injuries and was still solid playing with broken thumbs.
If there's not a better option then he should remain the starter. I don't think Heyer is ready to overtake him just yet. My question is why are some people so eager to run him out of town? |
08-25-2008, 02:53 PM | #3 | |
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He's still a good road-grading RT, but he just looks old and slow in pass protection. He's the best RT we have, but we should find a new starter and Jansen should be relegated to back-up duty in 2009 if he doesn't have a good season. |
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08-25-2008, 03:26 PM | #4 | |
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I like jansen more than Samuels but you have to keep an eye on him. He is clearly struggling. Hopefully it's just rust and he can rebound this year. |
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08-25-2008, 03:44 PM | #5 | |
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I haven't gone through all the threads after the debacle on Sat., but so far I've seen Jansen getting run out of town, but not much mention of Samuels getting MANHANDLED by Julius Peppers. Maybe we should get rid of Samuels too? (sarcasm) There sure wasn't a cry for Jansen's head when we were 3-0 and the starting O was looking solid. Is the guy playing at a high level, not really, but he's not ready for the trash bid either.
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08-25-2008, 04:36 PM | #6 | |
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08-25-2008, 05:02 PM | #7 | |
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I'll admit I'm slightly worried about the Samuals getting manhandled by Peppers situation (I haven't had the guts nor the motivation to download the game and see for myself) but from what I understand, Pepers is a man on a mission after amassing only 2.5 sacks last year in 14 games (yes THE Jullius Peppers). In fact some might say he's walking into a Ben Rothesberger type situation this year, though from what I know he's never been on a motorcycle. So it might have been more of a combination of Samuals lack of motivation in a preseason game combined with Peppers overwhelming desire to prove himself again (which he had a chance to do this weekend against a guy of Samuals caliber in the preseasons only half game). In the end though I'm kind of glad we got our ass kicked this week. My Dad use to always talk about how he was happy that Maryland went through the same things before March Madness during the year they won they title, and in this case it's happening during the preseason so at least the loss won't sting to bad.
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08-25-2008, 05:38 PM | #8 |
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Re: When will Jansen go?
The game against Carolina was an aberration, the players and coaches are trying to get over Joe Bugel's daughter dying. People forget these guys are human, remember last year against Buffalo the infamous Gibbs timeout mistake? This guys are human, I wouldn't be surprised if Holly's death didn't linger from last years tragic events.
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08-25-2008, 02:49 PM | #9 |
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Re: When will Jansen go?
I agree Matty right now what other choice do we have and the season has not even started yet. Lets give him a few games before we start kicking him out of town.
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08-25-2008, 02:58 PM | #10 | |
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Jansen has been a real solid, real good tackle for many years. Give him a little time. He's coming off major injuries. No doubt he's getting older, but he could still have a couple of solid years left. Shouldn't you give the longest tenured Redskins who's played thru major injuries the benefit of the doubt instead of throwing him under the bus? I'm not saying we should throw someone out there that's a liability to the team, but JJ is a proven NFL starter in this league. |
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08-25-2008, 03:07 PM | #11 |
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He'll come through and shut all the naysayers up. The guy hasn't even played in a regular season and they are already calling for his and others heads.
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08-25-2008, 03:05 PM | #12 |
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Re: When will Jansen go?
The really sad part is that he is the best RT the Skins have right now. The Skins dont have anyone better so he's the guy they gotta go with until he gets injured again.
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08-25-2008, 03:05 PM | #13 |
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Re: When will Jansen go?
I realize Jon Jansen has been a loyal member to this team for a long time, but he has had some devastating injuries - especially the one last year. He seems to be injury prone now and on the down, downside of his career and is below the average starting RT in our division. I hope I am proved wrong, but it seems that only out of loyalty would he stay on the roster past this season.
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08-25-2008, 03:18 PM | #14 |
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Re: When will Jansen go?
He's been one of my favorites for a long time and I hope he's able to rebound. He has struggled in the preseason, but he's a true pro and I think that he'll be fine once the season starts.
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08-25-2008, 04:04 PM | #15 |
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Re: When will Jansen go?
I have been a big fan of the original "Rock" (before Cartright came) as a guy who played every game and, even as a rookie, handed Strahan admirably. But I must agree that it haa been quite a while since he performed like a stud.
With his big salary, you can't help but wonder if that $ might be better spent elsewhere. However, I know we can't free ourselves of his contract. There is about a $14m release fee this year (per crazy canuck). I wonder if we can get creative NEXT year. If he were to retire could we recoup that signing bonus money and then hire him as an expenses o-line coach? His work ethic and lockerroom presence are great, just not his on field performce these days. |
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