A-Rod tests positive for steroids

[dmek25]

Report: Baseball Star Alex Rodriguez Tested Positive for Steroids in 2003

[GMScud]

What a waste. Think about it -Bonds, A-Rod, McGwire, Clemens, Palmeiro... all may not make the Hall Of Fame. Crazy. Some of the most prolific players ever to play the game.

On a side note, A-Rod testing postivie adds to the growing circus that is the Yankees, which I love. Pettitte, Giambi, Clemens, now A-Rod... what a buncha cheats.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GMScud

What a waste. Think about it -Bonds, A-Rod, McGwire, Clemens, Palmeiro... all may not make the Hall Of Fame. Crazy. Some of the most prolific players ever to play the game.

On a side note, A-Rod testing postivie adds to the growing circus that is the Yankees, which I love. Pettitte, Giambi, Clemens, now A-Rod... what a buncha cheats.

If everyone was doing it how is it cheating?

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

What a waste. Think about it -Bonds, A-Rod, McGwire, Clemens, Palmeiro... all may not make the Hall Of Fame. Crazy. Some of the most prolific players ever to play the game.

On a side note, A-Rod testing postivie adds to the growing circus that is the Yankees, which I love. Pettitte, Giambi, Clemens, now A-Rod... what a buncha cheats.

Didnt arod test positive when he was with the Rangers?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Didnt arod test positive when he was with the Rangers?

And? It creates doubt about if he was juicing while wearing the pinstripes. In '03 when he tested positive he hit 47 homers and won MVP. I'd say that's motivation to repeat the behavior.

A-Rod was the player who everyone said was the "natural." Ever since all this steroid crap game to light, how many times have you heard A-Rod applauded for being one of the few who does it all without juicing? He was supposed to be the guy who would take the taint (and asterisk) off the home run record when he breaks it. Not anymore.

Say "who cares" all you want guys. This is a big deal.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GMScud

And? It creates doubt about if he was juicing while wearing the pinstripes. In '03 when he tested positive he hit 47 homers and won MVP. I'd say that's motivation to repeat the behavior.

A-Rod was the player who everyone said was the "natural." Ever since all this steroid crap game to light, how many times have you heard A-Rod applauded for being one of the few who does it all without juicing? He was supposed to be the guy who would take the taint (and asterisk) off the home run record when he breaks it. Not anymore.

Say "who cares" all you want guys. This is a big deal.

It's not a big deal cause everyone was doing it and steroids don't help you as much as you think it does. Why do people get so mad about this? The pitchers were doing it plus the pitchers cheated all the time. They scuff the balls, spit on the balls..they did all kind of stuff. But for some reason when the hitters do steroids everyone freaks the hell out. It's almost comical to me. Most people don't even really know how steriods work yet those are the first ones to call ARod a cheater.

Do you know how many football players currently take HGH? I'm going to guess it's a big number cause you can't test for it. Does that bother you? Do you know how many football players took steroids before they tested for it? Yet no one seems to care about football. Only baseball. Why?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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It's not a big deal cause everyone was doing it and steroids don't help you as much as you think it does. Why do people get so mad about this? The pitchers were doing it plus the pitchers cheated all the time. They scuff the balls, spit on the balls..they did all kind of stuff. But for some reason when the hitters do steroids everyone freaks the hell out. It's almost comical to me. Most people don't even really know how steriods work yet those are the first ones to call ARod a cheater.

Do you know how many football players currently take HGH? I'm going to guess it's a big number cause you can't test for it. Does that bother you? Do you know how many football players took steroids before they tested for it? Yet no one seems to care about football. Only baseball. Why?

Not sure why you bolded everything but...

1. Everyone was doing it is a bit of an overstatement

2. I would agree that the pitchers were probably more guilty overall than batters

3. It "matters" more in baseball because baseball is much more about the history of the sport and the numbers attached to the sport. People don't care as much about 47 games as they do about 56 games. When those numbers are tainted it leaves a bad taste (or something like that)

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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It's not a big deal cause everyone was doing it and steroids don't help you as much as you think it does. Why do people get so mad about this? The pitchers were doing it plus the pitchers cheated all the time. They scuff the balls, spit on the balls..they did all kind of stuff. But for some reason when the hitters do steroids everyone freaks the hell out. It's almost comical to me. Most people don't even really know how steriods work yet those are the first ones to call ARod a cheater.

Do you know how many football players currently take HGH? I'm going to guess it's a big number cause you can't test for it. Does that bother you? Do you know how many football players took steroids before they tested for it? Yet no one seems to care about football. Only baseball. Why?

It's a big enough deal for you to angrily make an entire post in bold letters. LOL!

Anyway, I respect your opinion. But my opinion is that when the best player in the game (and one of the greatest ever) tests positive for steroids, aka cheating, it's a big deal. Just like it would be a big deal if Johan Santana was scuffing balls, David Ortiz was using too much pine tar, or Albert Pujols was corking his bat.

Also, the Mitchell Report fiasco, Jose Canseco, and the precedent set by morons like McGwire, Palmeiro, and Clemens have turned stuff like this into a bigger deal. It's a total media circus. For the past two days you might as well have renamed ESPN the A-Roid Network. Hell, he was on the front page of the friggin Wall Street Journal. So yeah, it's a big deal.

Your question as to why people care more about performance enhancers in baseball than football is an interesting one. Maybe because baseball is a sport totally obsessed with it's own statistics, and steroids beef up (no pun intended) the stats? I don't know. I'm sure plenty of players all over the place take HGH, and that does bother me. But what am I gonna do, stop watching sports?

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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It's not a big deal cause everyone was doing it

cal ripken jr wasnt doing em and thats one of many reasons why he gets shown so much respect.

but to a point i agree with you; if a roided up pitcher is throwing to a roided up batter, wheres the uncompetitive advantage? the only guy who gets screwed is the guy doing it the right way.

go skins!!

[MTK]

At this point you almost have to assume everyone in baseball juiced during the height of the steroid era.

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

At this point you almost have to assume everyone in baseball juiced during the height of the steroid era.

Curt Schilling said pretty much the same thing on his blog(sorry, no link). He wants all 104 or so players that tested positive back in '03 named. He says if you don't start naming all the players it makes all the players guilty by association.

It bothers me even more that he won the MVP that year. Great example to set A-Rod. I lost most of my respect for you when you demanded that 1/4 billion $ contract a few years ago. Now.....F...A-Rod.

[skinsfan69]

WHO CARES?? Enough of this steroid crap already. As Matty said everyone was doing it. The freakin bat boys were probably doing it. Why does the media get a hard on eveytime someone gets caught doing steroids?

[SmootSmack]

All this makes Ken Griffey Jr. look better and better every day

[724Skinsfan]

I liked baseball better when 30/100 homeruns/rbi's a season was considered pretty darn good. More hit-and-runs and stolen bases make a much better game than watching some guy jog around the bases.

[Hog1]

I'm going to miss middle aged pitchers!