Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez predictions??

SolidSnake84 · 10-21-2010, 11:53 AM

This is got to be one of the biggest MMA fights of this year, maybe even more so than the Lesnar vs Shane Carwin fight, only because as of a few days ago, the fight has turned to racial insults, from Brock's side.

Brock has insulted his mexican heritage, and says after the fight he will eat a burrito and drink a corona, and also says he will beat his "mexican ass".

In response, the normally polite and reserved velasquez has promised him that Brock has "f***ed with the wrong Mexican".

I say Velazquez beats him. Thoughts??

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 10-21-2010, 12:03 PM

As long as Brock can take him down, he'll win. If they stay standing, Brock is in trouble.

BDBohnzie · 10-21-2010, 02:08 PM

I agree with Quake. If Lesnar can take Velasquez to the mat and keep him there, he's going to be tough to beat. If Lesnar tries keep the fight up on their feet, he's gonna get knocked the f' out.

SolidSnake84 · 10-21-2010, 02:17 PM

Alot of people are understating Cain's wrestling ability. Even Brock's trainer, who is also an MMA fighter and former collegiate wrestling, said that he has wrestled velasquez before and that he is very formidible. He said if Brock doesn't take him seriously, he could be in trouble...

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 10-21-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Alot of people are understating Cain's wrestling ability. Even Brock's trainer, who is also an MMA fighter and former collegiate wrestling, said that he has wrestled velasquez before and that he is very formidible. He said if Brock doesn't take him seriously, he could be in trouble...

I know Cain is a great wrestler but, he isnt as big as Brock is and Shane Carwin couldn't get up when Brock took him down and Carwin is every bit the wrestler Cain is.

FRPLG · 10-21-2010, 02:59 PM

Anything could happen but Lesnat has the edge. His size and athleticism is just so hard to over come. But if Cain can keep it standing up then he has s good chance to catch Brock. I suspect we might see a good facsimile of the Carwin fight where Cain pounds on him a little bit until Lesnar fin s a spot and brings down the hammer or a submission.

firstdown · 10-25-2010, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Anything could happen but Lesnat has the edge. His size and athleticism is just so hard to over come. But if Cain can keep it standing up then he has s good chance to catch Brock. I suspect we might see a good facsimile of the Carwin fight where Cain pounds on him a little bit until Lesnar fin s a spot and brings down the hammer or a submission.

Back in the day there was no weight classes and little shits kicked ass. They would just avoid the big punches until the big guy got tired then they would beat the crap out of them. Not sure if that would work in todays world.

SolidSnake84 · 10-21-2010, 03:18 PM

Carwin had no cardio. He was totally gassed after round 1. Cain Velasquez has the stamina to swing away for 3 rounds, no problem.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 10-21-2010, 03:34 PM

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Carwin had no cardio. He was totally gassed after round 1. Cain Velasquez has the stamina to swing away for 3 rounds, no problem.

Ok 3 rounds no problem, so what happens in round 4 and round 5. Also, cardio goes away when a 265lb man-beast is on top of you punching you in the face. Just ask Frank Mir.

itvnetop · 10-21-2010, 10:56 PM

I think Brock's just too darn big for anyone in the division right now. Dos Santos may be his only legitimate challenge, imo.

GSP is going to punk Koschek in December, likely embarrassing him in front of thousands of French Canadians... if all goes according to plan, Fitch (rematch) and Shields are waiting in the wings. I can't wait for Sonnen-Silva II.

SolidSnake84 · 10-22-2010, 06:45 AM

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I think Brock's just too darn big for anyone in the division right now. Dos Santos may be his only legitimate challenge, imo.

Shane Carwin is still a legitimate threat, and after he gets past Roy Nelson in January (he should), he will be in line to take on the number 1 contender, so he could challenge for the title again by next spring/summer.

If Carwin can get past his stamina problem, he beats Brock every time...

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 10-21-2010, 11:16 PM

Gonna be hard if Sonnen cant take steroids this time.

FRPLG · 10-22-2010, 08:30 AM

No doubt the HW division has some very good talent in it right now. Velasquez and Cain are legit as well as Dos Santos. Certainly the best the UFC has had in a very long time. The problem is that Lesnar is such a freak. A guy with his wrestling skills and his decent stand up game is going to be a contender no matter what. Add in his demonstrated toughness and his shear size and he is clearly a favorite against anybody in the world. In MMA everyone always has a chance so it is always hard to predict but if you play the odds Cain wins this fight more often than he loses it.

SolidSnake84 · 10-22-2010, 09:32 AM

I'm not a big guy, 5'10, 195, but i know how i'd fight Lesnar if I was a HW. Brock doesnt like standup, he turns into a turtle whenever anyone starts landing on him. He's tough for sure, but his expert area is wrestling, and taking a fighter to the ground.

I'd work behind a stiff jab to keep him honest, mixing in power shots when he comes forward. if he tries to bullrush to take me down, i'd try to sidestep him, or retreat, and setup again. being a kempo guy, i'd throw a high kick or 2 to confuse him.

Now keep in mind if he takes me to the ground, it is probably over, unless i can get him in an arm triangle choke from the full guard, because he is susceptible to submissions.

If somehow I knocked brock down, like Carwin, i would swing for the fences until he either gets knocked out, or there is a stoppage. I have great cardio being a boxer, and i believe i could throw heavy shots on him for quite a while...

This is just the model of how someone could win, by not fighting Brock's kind of fight.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 10-22-2010, 11:05 AM

Yeah but Cain stop Brock's explosive takedowns. I dont think so.

10-21-2010, 11:53 AM	#1
SolidSnake84 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stephens City, VA Posts: 2,947	Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez predictions?? This is got to be one of the biggest MMA fights of this year, maybe even more so than the Lesnar vs Shane Carwin fight, only because as of a few days ago, the fight has turned to racial insults, from Brock's side. Brock has insulted his mexican heritage, and says after the fight he will eat a burrito and drink a corona, and also says he will beat his "mexican ass". In response, the normally polite and reserved velasquez has promised him that Brock has "f***ed with the wrong Mexican". I say Velazquez beats him. Thoughts?? __________________ Time to nut up or shut up

10-21-2010, 12:03 PM	#2
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 35 Posts: 14,143	Re: Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez predictions?? As long as Brock can take him down, he'll win. If they stay standing, Brock is in trouble. __________________ https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is.

10-21-2010, 02:08 PM	#3
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 45 Posts: 4,628	Re: Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez predictions?? I agree with Quake. If Lesnar can take Velasquez to the mat and keep him there, he's going to be tough to beat. If Lesnar tries keep the fight up on their feet, he's gonna get knocked the f' out. __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

10-21-2010, 02:17 PM	#4
SolidSnake84 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stephens City, VA Posts: 2,947	Re: Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez predictions?? Alot of people are understating Cain's wrestling ability. Even Brock's trainer, who is also an MMA fighter and former collegiate wrestling, said that he has wrestled velasquez before and that he is very formidible. He said if Brock doesn't take him seriously, he could be in trouble... __________________ Time to nut up or shut up

10-21-2010, 02:59 PM	#6
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 10,164	Re: Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez predictions?? Anything could happen but Lesnat has the edge. His size and athleticism is just so hard to over come. But if Cain can keep it standing up then he has s good chance to catch Brock. I suspect we might see a good facsimile of the Carwin fight where Cain pounds on him a little bit until Lesnar fin s a spot and brings down the hammer or a submission.

10-21-2010, 03:18 PM	#8
SolidSnake84 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stephens City, VA Posts: 2,947	Re: Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez predictions?? Carwin had no cardio. He was totally gassed after round 1. Cain Velasquez has the stamina to swing away for 3 rounds, no problem. __________________ Time to nut up or shut up

10-21-2010, 10:56 PM	#10
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 47 Posts: 3,007	Re: Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez predictions?? I think Brock's just too darn big for anyone in the division right now. Dos Santos may be his only legitimate challenge, imo. GSP is going to punk Koschek in December, likely embarrassing him in front of thousands of French Canadians... if all goes according to plan, Fitch (rematch) and Shields are waiting in the wings. I can't wait for Sonnen-Silva II. __________________ "Sit your five dollar ass down before I make change." - Nino Brown my blather

10-21-2010, 11:16 PM	#12
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 35 Posts: 14,143	Re: Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez predictions?? Gonna be hard if Sonnen cant take steroids this time. __________________ https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is.

10-22-2010, 08:30 AM	#13
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 10,164	Re: Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez predictions?? No doubt the HW division has some very good talent in it right now. Velasquez and Cain are legit as well as Dos Santos. Certainly the best the UFC has had in a very long time. The problem is that Lesnar is such a freak. A guy with his wrestling skills and his decent stand up game is going to be a contender no matter what. Add in his demonstrated toughness and his shear size and he is clearly a favorite against anybody in the world. In MMA everyone always has a chance so it is always hard to predict but if you play the odds Cain wins this fight more often than he loses it.

10-22-2010, 09:32 AM	#14
SolidSnake84 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stephens City, VA Posts: 2,947	Re: Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez predictions?? I'm not a big guy, 5'10, 195, but i know how i'd fight Lesnar if I was a HW. Brock doesnt like standup, he turns into a turtle whenever anyone starts landing on him. He's tough for sure, but his expert area is wrestling, and taking a fighter to the ground. I'd work behind a stiff jab to keep him honest, mixing in power shots when he comes forward. if he tries to bullrush to take me down, i'd try to sidestep him, or retreat, and setup again. being a kempo guy, i'd throw a high kick or 2 to confuse him. Now keep in mind if he takes me to the ground, it is probably over, unless i can get him in an arm triangle choke from the full guard, because he is susceptible to submissions. If somehow I knocked brock down, like Carwin, i would swing for the fences until he either gets knocked out, or there is a stoppage. I have great cardio being a boxer, and i believe i could throw heavy shots on him for quite a while... This is just the model of how someone could win, by not fighting Brock's kind of fight. __________________ Time to nut up or shut up

10-22-2010, 11:05 AM	#15
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 35 Posts: 14,143	Re: Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez predictions?? Yeah but Cain stop Brock's explosive takedowns. I dont think so. __________________ https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is.

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