Running Game

[saden1]

What happened to it?

[GTripp0012]

Portis went from superhuman to merely good behind an offensive line that can be overpowered, and commits a lot of procedure penalties and takes itself out of good running situations consistently.

[MTK]

A vet like yourself is coming with a weak thread like this?

C'mon saden you're slackin'.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A vet like yourself is coming with a weak thread like this?

C'mon saden you're slackin'.

I think it's an important issue. Though the original post could have been better.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I think it's an important issue. Though the original post could have been better.

Yeah that's all I'm sayin'

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A vet like yourself is coming with a weak thread like this?

C'mon saden you're slackin'.

I'm watching the game right now on NFL Rewind, I really don't understand what Zorn is doing. I can understand if a good team stacking the box but this is the f'ing Lions. He is completely letting them dictate what he's doing. If they want to stack the box you don't abandon the run, you go with a two TE set all day long to get the f'ing running game going.

[djnemo65]

[QUOTE=saden1;598816]I'm watching the game right now on NFL Rewind, I really don't understand what Zorn is doing. I can understand if a good team stacking the box but this is the f'ing Lions. He is completely letting them dictate what he's doing. If they want to stack the box you don't abandon the run, you go with a two TE set all day long to get the f'ing running game going.[/QUOTE]

The only offensive success they have had all season has been in the passing game, including yesterday. They are bad up front, having Fred Davis in the game isn't going to change that.

[saden1]

[quote=djnemo65;598818]

Originally Posted by saden1

I'm watching the game right now on NFL Rewind, I really don't understand what Zorn is doing. I can understand if a good team stacking the box but this is the f'ing Lions. He is completely letting them dictate what he's doing. If they want to stack the box you don't abandon the run, you go with a two TE set all day long to get the f'ing running game going.[/QUOTE]

The only offensive success they have had all season has been in the passing game, including yesterday. They are bad up front, having Fred Davis in the game isn't going to change that.

If you can't run the ball you don't win. I refuse to believe we can't run the ball all of a sudden. We're the same god damn team we were last year. We can run the ball, the problem is when you call running plays. Zorn is shit. Watching this game makes me sick.

Zero rushing yards at halftime? Against the Lions?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by saden1

If you can't run the ball you don't win. I refuse to believe we can't run the ball all of a sudden. We're the same god damn team we were last year. We can run the ball, the problem is when you call running plays. Zorn is shit. Watching this game makes me sick.

Zero rushing yards at halftime? Against the Lions?

It's not all of a sudden. We haven't done anything on the ground since the last Lions game.

[djnemo65]

[quote=saden1;598822]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

If you can't run the ball you don't win. I refuse to believe we can't run the ball all of a sudden. We're the same god damn team we were last year. We can run the ball, the problem is when you call running plays. Zorn is shit. Watching this game makes me sick.

Zero rushing yards at halftime? Against the Lions?

You mean the first half last season when the play calling was working? Or do you mean the second half when we fell apart in every offensive facet? I think you are right that we are the same team as last year, just the wrong half. The playcalling has been awful but I have to think it's a lot more complicated than just deciding we are going to run better.

[dmvskinzfan08]

[quote=saden1;598822]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

If you can't run the ball you don't win. I refuse to believe we can't run the ball all of a sudden. We're the same god damn team we were last year. We can run the ball, the problem is when you call running plays. Zorn is shit. Watching this game makes me sick.

Zero rushing yards at halftime? Against the Lions?

Okay say let's see. Jansen gone. Kendall gone. Thomas hurt. Then we wonder why our O-line isn't doing squat. They were old but experieinced. Our O-line is horrible. Lets be honest. Just the offseason experiments alone should tell you that. I can recall Buges saying Rinehart was horrible. But then he cahnged his tune to say he is doing better.

You can't win with a patchwork inexperienced O-line in the NFL. I never. I mean never remembered a time where we could run the ball. When CP got holes he made big games. So I dont think its him. Liek I said in a post the other day. Get up run into a wall. Then open a door and see which one is easier. lol

Say CP is the problem. If Betts plays he wont produce. Rock? Let's not go there. Mason and Alridge is what's left. SO CP is our best option. If anyoen thinks Betts can produce than they are dillusional. Just liek the peopel who want Todd Collins to start. Do you see the comparisons between the two.

Both had decent seasons when they came in to fill in years ago. But they both are past their prime with no upside. This system isn't really built for either one of them. Betts or Collins. What a mess!! now that I think abotu it. I am about to get on teh Cerrato must go band wagon as I am typing this.

[SUNRA]

[quote=saden1;598822]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

If you can't run the ball you don't win. I refuse to believe we can't run the ball all of a sudden. We're the same god damn team we were last year. We can run the ball, the problem is when you call running plays. Zorn is shit. Watching this game makes me sick.

Zero rushing yards at halftime? Against the Lions?

We have five RB's on the roster. Why sign Alridge if you don't trust him to add speed to a running back core that has no speed and Marcus Mason must be used if Portis is not healthy which is almost every important third down conversion. Zorn knew Portis wasn't healthy and instead of playing the other healthy backs in the running game we force passes to Moss which leads to an INT.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by saden1

I'm watching the game right now on NFL Rewind, I really don't understand what Zorn is doing. I can understand if a good team stacking the box but this is the f'ing Lions. He is completely letting them dictate what he's doing. If they want to stack the box you don't abandon the run, you go with a two TE set all day long to get the f'ing running game going.

I totally hear you.

We're not going to win very many games if we can't get the running game cranked up. It's been embarrassing so far.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I totally hear you.

We're not going to win very many games if we can't get the running game cranked up. It's been embarrassing so far.

Lots of teams win with a passing game like ours and good defense.

But we either need to be a complete offense or a complete defense to compete with the struggles of the opposing unit. Right now, we're a one trick pony. And it's shaping up a LOT like the 2006 season.

Except that team could run the ball.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Lots of teams win with a passing game like ours and good defense.

But we either need to be a complete offense or a complete defense to compete with the struggles of the opposing unit. Right now, we're a one trick pony. And it's shaping up a LOT like the 2006 season.

Except that team could run the ball.

Sure if the D comes alive we could definitely win games that way.